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Drip Tip Concerns

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Can_supplier

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Can you imagine the price if they were made out of surgical grade stainless ?? Oh My !!

-Greg

Surgical Stainless steel.. That's the junk that we are fed sometimes.

I was at a Home Show once and there was one of those booths with the fast talking salesman selling knifes that could cut the world in 1/2 and not become dull. Yeah right, but anyhow..

I happened to be there with a doctor. He laughed and said, there isn't such a thing as "surgical stainless steel". Of course there is a grade of stainless steel used to produce surgical instruments, but the properties of that steel are much different to what you would want for home use and durablity. After the surgery the blades are thrown out, so corrosion over a long period of time and durablity are not as important as properties which allow it to sharpened to an extremely sharp edge at the expense of durabilty. Also with them being disposable low cost is also a factor...

Basically "surgical stainless steel" is a load, that means nothing, yet sounds impressive.
 

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It cost me $2.21or 23 to send 30ml of juice to Greg, Why does it cost $10 to ship a Ttip at a fraction of the weight. It is a rhetorical question. I spread the wealth around, but at the same time as it has been discussed ad nauseum in the past, we would like to spend our money in Canada, but at times it is simply not cost effective.

The reason we are not shipping for $2.21 is because that is not tracked, with no guaranteed arrival time. For what its worth, a drip tip could be shipped for $1.22.

That simply is not what the customers want, but if one were to request it..

Also it is rare to get an order for just one thing that small. As soon as you get a larger package, say a 510 box even, it becomes are parcel rather than over sized mail. The cheapest option then, without tracking and without a guaranteed arrival time is $7 and change for the closest possible destination.

I think you know from the packages you have received as the postage is printed on them, that the vendors are spending more than they charge for shipping.

If you get those drip tips machined up at a decent price, which I agree with you can be done. I would be interested in distributing your product if it came in at a reasonable price point.

The catch is finding the time and secondly being willing to invest enough for a minimum order at a machine shop. To get any volume discount and for a shop to even consider making them for you, I'd expect you would have the place better than $1,000 order for them.
 
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My bad. I guess with 95%+ of the pictures on your website being taken from heaven-gifts' site, I just figured that is where you procured them from. That includes the cropped image of the drip tip.

Then next time you want to order from them, order from me instead. We are the same thing right. ;)
 

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Well just to defend my point of view a little,

Having copper pipes in your house and putting copper in your mouth is 2 different things.
I am VERY happy that these plated drip tips haven't chipped on people so far, but I am still curious about long term wear and tear.

Here is why people are so paranoid about it:

Copper toxicity is usually due to:
  • excessive supplementation
  • the increasingly common problem of low levels of zinc in the diet
  • contaminated food and drinking water due to contact with metallic copper
  • external exposures such as a copper IUD or accidental agricultural overspray
  • elevated levels of estrogens.
So the fears are founded in reality, I'm worried about poisoning from nearly everything these days since I'm learning almost nothing is safe anymore.

Either way, I'm glad no one is getting sick off of these.
 

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I am VERY happy that these plated drip tips haven't chipped on people so far, but I am still curious about long term wear and tear.

I'm a juggler. I don't mean a professional one (although I was for a brief period about twenty years ago). What I mean is I like to juggle. I only go for 3+ objects in the privacy of my home, but if there's something in my hand, I can't help but toss it, flip it, spin it, repeat.

I like to take long walks, and on those walks, I typically take my Silver Bullet with a drip tip. At the risk of bragging, I'm Roy Rogers with my SB. Or a batton twirler, but I'll go with Roy Rogers because that's at least a touch more masculine. The thing is, nobody's perfect, and I drop my SB a couple times every walk. So my drip tips from VIECS and from China have repeatedly hit the sidewalk, backed by the weight of the SB and torque from my spins. They're notched and dented, but there's yet to be flaking or metallic taste.

As an aside, my SB is also beat up...scratched, dented, and there are some chips in the top and bottom. The metal under the chips is dark. But, it still works just fine.

TBL36
 

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So my drip tips from VIECS and from China have repeatedly hit the sidewalk, backed by the weight of the SB and torque from my spins. They're notched and dented, but there's yet to be flaking or metallic taste.

TBL36

Thank you TBL, much appreciated! If they can handle that kind of treatment and still do not chip or flake then I can see no reason for anyone to be afraid of them. It was worth digging into though so that others with similar concerns can discover the truth themselves.

I'll more than likely buy some from VIECS or EVAPERS with my next pay to go with my super fancy HAPPYVAPER Stainless Steel T-Tip that should be here tomorrow.
 

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I have been using a drip tip purchased from nicfitnation 3 weeks ago. I guess it is the same one that HC sells for $1.99 USD. I paid $5.47 for it. In addition I ordered 1 LR, 1 standard atty and 2 - 10 ml bottles of juice. The total order cost was $55.00 including discounts and postage.

I haven't noticed any flaking/chipping on the tip nor have I detected any health related side effects from using it, yet :)

Aside from the OP inquiry about health concerns, this thread seems to have started a debate on pricing of parts and costs of shipping.

I have to go with Switched on this one. What are these super T tips made from? Gold?
I was actually going to purchase one then I said to myself, no way, too much money.

I guess the super t tips are a luxury item for the rich only. I guess the super t drip tip is the equivalent of keeping up with Joneses, e-cig version :)
 

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*SNIP

For what is is worth, I will put my money where my mouth is. I will be contacting a local machine shop wrt what we can get the Switch Tips for! I am surprised that vendors havent sought this avenue yet, and if they have and is not cost effective, I apologise in advance.
Well that didn't work out as expected :(

What's up dude? How busy are you these days? Would like to set up a meeting to discuss a possible standing order. Let me know if you are interested. The job entails straight turning in stainless.

How's it going? I actually went out and got a real job and had to shut the shop down. Good hearing from you again buddy. Sorry I won't be able to help you out.
 
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Not sure why people like stainless/metal. I much prefer the delrin ones. Feels better on the lips and definitely on the teeth if you need to go no hands for a second.

The other thing is that I use my drip tips on 510s, 901s and cartomizers. If you get a cartomizer where the coil wire sticks up further than most... and contacts your metal drip tip... the effect can be dramatic so I'm told.
 
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