drip tips? add-ons & backups

[Maniacal]

What the title says. I'm ordering sample packs of juice from vapor girl and they really have to go out TODAY, so I need to order asap. Figured I might as well order anything else I need for my starter kit at the same time. I've seen some really pretty drip tips and was abt to order a few with my juice, but before I do I think I should ask:
~Does a clearomizer already have a drip tip on them?
~Is a drip tip used for any other purpose other than looking fancy at the end of your pipe? If so, what?
~Do I *need* a drip tip?

And as long as I've got you here, I'd like to know what else I need to order besides liquid to go with my kit, which supposedly comes w/everything I will need to start except liquid. I'm a worry wart, so I'm nervous that I will use my parts up too quickly or I'll need something I don't have. I can't remember all the things people have said to order backups for!

I ordered that Spinner/twist + clearomizer package that everyone loves to recommend from the vapor store, if that info is neccessary.

 

[BigLebowski]

Most clearomizers have a "drip tip" attached. Drip tips keep you from getting a mouth full of juice when using atomizers and cartomizers, also so you don't burn your lips when the metal heats up. They are essential and are the customizable aspect for most people, I have a lot of SS and blue delrin, just a preference. The only clearomizer I use is the Protank but I have heard good things about the iClear 16's, sounds like you have a good start. Good luck with your hunt for the ADV, it's a lot of trial and error.

 

[Maniacal]

Thanks! That birthed more questions, lol Can u also tell me ...
~If a drip tip already comes on your clearo, is it detatchable? The ones on the clearos arent as pretty as the tips Im looking at.
~If I decided I liked catromizers more, do they still need them? If they do, do they come on the catros?

 

[kottonmouth401]

Two quick things about drip tips:
1. Not all clearomizers have replaceable drip tips, so check out the info on the clearomizers you ordered before you decide to buy extra drip tips.
2. Choice of drip tip is basically just a style choice, but certain materials are better for certain situations. For example: i use stainless steel drip tips at home, but they're not great if you're going to be vaping outside in the hot summer sun lol

You should have a backup battery. You're definitely going to want more than one clearomizer, and make sure you have plenty of eliquid. Enjoy!

 

[kottonmouth401]

What kind of clearomizer did you buy? And yes, you can use a drip tip with most cartomizers, but they're not absolutely necessary.

 

[Baditude]

~Does a clearomizer already have a drip tip on them?

Yes they do. With the top-coil top-wicked variety of clearomizers the drip tip or mouthpiece is removed to add e-juice to the clearomizer tank. With a clearomizer like the Kanger Protank, the drip tip/mouthpiece is not removeable; it is filled by turning it upside down and removing the base.

A "drip tip" is often synonomous (sp?) with mouthpiece. These mouthpieces got the name drip tip because they were an integral part of using a drip atomizer when "dripping", which is a specific method of vaping. Because these drip tips also made great mouthpieces for other juice delivery attachments, the name just stuck when they were used on other devices.

~Is a drip tip used for any other purpose other than looking fancy at the end of your pipe? If so, what?

As explained above, a drip tip is integral for use while dripping with an atomizer, or using a cartomizer, or cartotank which do not automatically come with a mouthpiece.

~Do I *need* a drip tip?

Only if using an atomizer or cartomizer/cartotank, which generally do not come with a mouth piece.

And as long as I've got you here, I'd like to know what else I need to order besides liquid to go with my kit, which supposedly comes w/everything I will need to start except liquid. I'm a worry wart, so I'm nervous that I will use my parts up too quickly or I'll need something I don't have. I can't remember all the things people have said to order backups for!

As noted below, a least two batteries at minimum. Several juice delivery attachments, whether they be clearomizers, clearotanks, cartomizers, or cartotanks.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/3230-1-proper-terminology-carto-tank-what-primer-juice-delivery-attachments.html

These items are considered disposable and can only be expected to last 1 - 4 weeks.

I ordered that Spinner/twist + clearomizer package that everyone loves to recommend from the vapor store, if that info is neccessary.

That will be an excellent starter kit. However, we always strongly recommend to have at minimum two batteries and to have at least a few juice delivery attachments on hand at all times. The attachments are considered disposable, meaning that after a period of time they will either need to be totally replaced, or the inner "works" will need to be repaired or replaced. The attachments' expected lifespan can be prolonged with cleaning them, too.



Ideal Beginner's Setup: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/3706-4-good-starters-setup-beginning-vapor.html

 

[Maniacal]

WOW! Thanks for all this!

Unfortunately, I just did that thing that I do where I start to research every microscopic bit of info on every single part of every single thing that exists on the planet. Now, I'm confused.

I guess I should probably just ... wait for the order to come, and THEN start trying out various parts? I might be getting ahead of myself here. I was told to try both clearos AND cartos to decide what I like. And go even further after that and decide *which* clearo/carto I like. I dont even know much abt cartos anyways, so I'll put that on the back burner.

One battery ... NO extra coil/wick/heads/atomizers/etc?

 

[Maniacal]

What kind of clearomizer did you buy? And yes, you can use a drip tip with most cartomizers, but they're not absolutely necessary.

Oh, right ... they arent all the same, lol

Cartomizer #1:Innokin iClear 16 -(I was told to try both bottom and top coil clearos, I was under the impression that this was a top?)
Cartomizer #2:Kanger T3 eGo Bottom Coil

Also, I thought "DRIPPING" was what happened when u used a clearo? Like, the liquid drips in or ... something?

 

[Jazzi Mike]

WOW! Thanks for all this!

Unfortunately, I just did that thing that I do where I start to research every microscopic bit of info on every single part of every single thing that exists on the planet. Now, I'm confused.

I guess I should probably just ... wait for the order to come, and THEN start trying out various parts? I might be getting ahead of myself here. I was told to try both clearos AND cartos to decide what I like. And go even further after that and decide *which* clearo/carto I like. I dont even know much abt cartos anyways, so I'll put that on the back burner.

One battery ... NO extra coil/wick/heads/atomizers/etc?

See what you like and then order more stuff as you need it. Trust me when I say you can only need a few things and then 10 mins later be up to $100. It is always a good idea to have some extra drip tips in case you get an item that you don't like the drip tip on. However, only some clearomizers will allow you to change the drip tip, so without knowing what your setup is, I couldn't tell you whether or not you would be able to use them.

I don't think you can change the drip tips in the iClear 16's and I know you cant change them in Kanger M/T3's. You would be better to pick up a couple replacement coils/heads.

 

[Baditude]

Now, I'm confused.

What's the confusion? Plenty of experienced & knowledgeable people on this forum willing to help.

I guess I should probably just ... wait for the order to come, and THEN start trying out various parts? I might be getting ahead of myself here. I was told to try both clearos AND cartos to decide what I like. And go even further after that and decide *which* clearo/carto I like. I dont even know much abt cartos anyways, so I'll put that on the back burner.

Good advice to try a variety of delivery attachments. All are built and designed to work a little bit differently, and no single one will be best for every individual. You'll only know which one will work best for your setup, juices, and your own preferences if you try them out.

One battery ... NO extra coil/wick/heads/atomizers/etc?

As stated before, if you are doing this to quit smoking, one single battery will not cut it. What will you vape with when that one battery is re-charging for 3 - 4 hours? What if that one battery stops working (it happens)? Don't give yourself an excuse to buy another cigarette because you don't have a charged battery or a working delivery attachment.

I wouldn't buy extra heads for your clearomizers until you have decided which variety you prefer. Once that is settled, you can just buy replacement head/wicks in order to continue using the clearomizers.

There are top-coiled top-wicked clearomizers (Innokin iClear and Vision Vivi Nova). There are bottom-coiled bottom-wicked clearomizers (Kanger T3, protank and evod). All are a little different vaping experience.

 

[kottonmouth401]

The iclear 16 is a top coil, but the drip tip is threaded & isn't really replaceable. The T3 is bottom coil, and you can't remove the drip tip.
Yep its a great idea to try both top coil & bottom coil (and tanks, cartomizers, etc.) & find what you like best

 

[Jazzi Mike]

Also, I thought "DRIPPING" was what happened when u used a clearo? Like, the liquid drips in or ... something?

Dripping is when you places a few drops of liquid directly into an atomizer. Because you have clearomizers, you will not be able to try it. You have to order actual 510 atomizers. Basically, you get a better vape (more flavor and everything else) with dripping, but it can be a bit messy and you have to continuously put 2-3 drops on your atomizer every 5-8 hits.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

If you've ordered several different flavors you might want several different delivery devices or a drip atomizer & drip tip to sample them.
Some flavors leave a lingering taste in a clearo even after cleaning with PGA and will taint the taste of the subsequent flavors.
Some flavors will etch/crack/melt plastics and must be used with glass.

Using a VV battery you should start off with low V and work your way up until you get the hang of using VV to prevent burning the juice/ wicking material/coil.
Having spare coils/ heads on hand is a good idea.

Dripping is a method of vaping where a drip atomizer & drip tip is used , drip 3 ~ 5 drops of juice into the atty then you get 5 ~ 15 drags from it.
Dripping is great for testing flavors without having to fill a clearo or tank. They clean quickly & easily so dissimilar flavors can be vaped without the hassle of cleaning a clearo or using 1 carto for each flavor you have.

Vaping isn't near as hard as it sounds in printed words, after you get your stuff you'll see the learning curve is fairly quick.

 

[Baditude]

Also, I thought "DRIPPING" was what happened when u used a clearo? Like, the liquid drips in or ... something?

You do drip e-liquid into a clearomizer to fill it.

Dripping is also referred to the method of vaping when using another delivery device called a drip atomizer. These look like a cartomizer, but have no filler material in them to hold e-liquid. You can only place a few drops of juice in them at any given time. Because they have no wick material that can alter or mute the flavor of the juice, many vapors prefer this method of vaping because of superior flavor production. It does have its inconvenience factor due to the necessary ritual of having to drip additional juice every few vapes.

drip atomizers

This is why bottom feeder mods are popular. With these devices, you get the full flavor of a drip atomizer with the convenience of using a tank.



Cutaway of a bottom feeder mod. Inner juice tank is squeezed through an open window in the mod to feed an amount of juice into the atomizer to allow continuous vaping with a drip atomizer.

 

[Maniacal]

I see. I don't know where the atomizer is on my vision spinner twist vaporizer. I was abt to order a DTAtomizer just now & saw that they have wicks? If you're putting liquid directly on the atomizer, whats the wick for?

I've seen that the spinner has a 3.8-4.3 voltage (ohms?) setting, does that mean that I can't set it to vape at 2.0 ohms? Why is it advised to start around 2, does that mean its easier to pull (inhale)? Another important thing I've heard is that certain accessories need to be the same ohms, or compatible ohms? How would u go abt finding the right matching parts?

how do I get to the atomizer in my clearo? Ive heard not all clearomizers are able to be disassembled, how would that be possible if I had to add my juice? I was also told that an ego battery and a 510 arent the same thing, so why is someone telling me to order "x" part w/a 510 connector? (I do know that the spinner has BOTH connectors, just wondered why they would tell me to look specifically for the 510).

To those of you who recommended I obtain another battery ... I am pretty sure the kit I ordered up there comes with two. I ordered a 900 & a 1300. I think they are interchangable.

Agn, I cant thank u guys enough, this is a lot to take in by yourself.

 

[Topwater Elvis]

The wicks are to supply juice to the coil, you fill the tank/reservoir allow the wicks time to absorb juice and saturate the coil area.
The only time you drip directly onto an atomizer is when you're using an atomizer specifically made for dripping.

The heating element / coil is rated in ohm/resistance, the twist battery is an adjustable/variable voltage by way of turning the base of the battery. One reason folks recommend a variable voltage twist/spinner is you can turn up or down the power to match different ohm/resistance delivery devices.

Top coil clearos fill from the top by removing the mouth piece, they have long wicks you can see, some top coil clearo's are rebuild-able meaning you can replace the heating coil/wicks as one assembly.
Bottom coil clearos use very small wicks that are hard to see until you take them apart, you fill them by turning the clearo upside down and removing the base

 

[Baditude]

I cant thank u guys enough, this is a lot to take in by yourself.

Vaping is truly a different world of technology with new vocabulary and terminology. However, just spend time here on ECF and watch a lot of You Tube videos (reviews of products and product tutorials) and you will be an expert yourself in no time.

I don't know where the atomizer is on my vision spinner twist vaporizer. I was abt to order a DTAtomizer just now & saw that they have wicks? If you're putting liquid directly on the atomizer, whats the wick for?

Your Vision Spinner is just a battery. You screw the juice attachment (ie clearomizer), or delivery device, onto the top of the battery. Two separate parts that work together as one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=8t33wr5N0KM

(click image to enlarge)

The atomizer (heating coil) in your clearomizer is in the coil head where the string wicks lead to. (See image above with the exploded photo of a clearomizer). The wicks are designed to draw the juice into the head so that the heating coil can vaporize it into vapor. The atomizer head (and wicks) will be in the upper part of a top coil clearo, and in the lower part of a bottom coil clearomizer.

A drip atomizer will not have a wick. Just a heating coil within the metal cylinder. Sometimes any juice attachment that uses a heating coil is referred to as the atomizer. I know...it's confusing.

I've seen that the spinner has a 3.8-4.3 voltage (ohms?) setting, does that mean that I can't set it to vape at 2.0 ohms? Why is it advised to start around 2, does that mean its easier to pull (inhale)? Another important thing I've heard is that certain accessories need to be the same ohms, or compatible ohms? How would u go abt finding the right matching parts?

No, voltage and ohms (resistance) are two different things, but they do work together. Voltage is the electric power measurement the battery makes to heat the coils in the clearomizer. Ohm is the measurement of the heating coil, much like how watts determine how bright a light bulb can shine.

You can adjust the voltage on the Spinner battery's dial. You can't adjust a clearo's ohms (this is set at the factory), but you can sometimes choose the ohm you wish to use when you purchase new clearomizers. Which ohm to choose to use depends upon if you are using a single voltage battery (a single voltage eGo battery) or using a variable voltage battery, like an eGo Twist or eGo Spinner.

The relationship of ohms and voltage work together to create a difference in vapor temperature. Some people prefer a warmer vapor (like a cigarette), some prefer a cooler vapor (like a hookah water pipe). Also, some juice flavors have a sweet spot where they have the best flavor at a certain voltage (temperature). Adjusting the voltage up or down can help you find that "sweet spot" for that particular flavor. Variable voltage is just a feature to allow you more freedom to find a more satisfying vaping experience.

The safe vaping power chart is useful for beginners to understand the relationship between ohms and voltage, and not have to learn a formula like Ohm's Law. This chart can show you which ohm (resistance) works best within a certain voltage/wattage range.

how do I get to the atomizer in my clearo? Ive heard not all clearomizers are able to be disassembled, how would that be possible if I had to add my juice? I was also told that an ego battery and a 510 arent the same thing, so why is someone telling me to order "x" part w/a 510 connector? (I do know that the spinner has BOTH connectors, just wondered why they would tell me to look specifically for the 510).

Clearomizers are filled differently depending upon if they are top coiled or bottom coiled. View the tutorial videos below to see the difference, yet their similarities, too.

Evod bottom coil clearomizer: A PBusardo Review All About The EVOD - Includes Recoiling - YouTube

Vivi Nova top coil clearomizer: HOW TO FILL YOUR VIVI NOVA TANK - YouTube

The most common threading to attach battery devices and juice attachments is the 510 thread. The next common thread is the eGo thread, which actually uses the 510 thread and adds another outer eGo thread to the connector. Unfortunately the two are not always compatible, and you will need to read a product's description to know if one is compatible or not before making a purchase.

To those of you who recommended I obtain another battery ... I am pretty sure the kit I ordered up there comes with two. I ordered a 900 & a 1300. I think they are interchangable.

Yes, two batteries are best. The numbers "900" and "1300" refer to the mAh rating, which gives an idea on how long a rechargeable battery will last between charges. 100 mAh = 1 hour. So a 900 mAh battery should last 9 hours, a 1300 battery should last 13 hours.

 

[NotoriousJDP]

Lower ohms atomizers heat up faster and therefore need less voltage. Higher ohms heat up slower and can use more volts.

 

[Maniacal]

I was told initially that I had to buy (specifically) Drip Tip atomizers for tasting, however, I was just told that there IS no such thing as "Drip Tip" atomizer & that they are simply called plain 'ol "510 atomizers". So does this mean that ANY atomizer that has a 510 thread would work for dripping? I'm wondering if these will work because Ive not seen anything cheaper as far as dripping atomizers are concerned. Here's the link:

$1.71 EGO 510-T Electronic Cigarettes Flat Mouth Atomizer with Refill - black at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

The only atomizer I've gotten or even seen for that matter does not have a fixed mouthpiece on it, so I'm a 'lil perplexed. I'm guessing that I would need a 510 atomizer WITHOUT a mouthpiece already on it? I've not seen the ones I have for less than around $3 each, so when I saw the $1.71 well, you know

When it comes time to get a rebuildable atomizer I'd like to know what it means when the description says "3.5 ml liquid volume", I thought atomizers were pretty much something used for a few drops? They dont *appear* to be difficult to build or am I overestimating my ability to tinker w/stuffs?