Drip tips and atomizers

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Trips1103

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Ok so I'm using a drip tip on my eGo/Tornado with a regular 510 atty. Is there a better atty to use for dripping, or certain modifications I should/could do to the atty? I've heard references to the wick and bridge (and yes I know what they are) but, I've never been able to get down to the nitty gritty of what to actually do to them - if anything.


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For my money, a chopped atty is the way to go. Check the link below. It's really not that difficult, just be careful.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/tips-tricks/132683-bridgeless-drippers-dream-atty.html


Tried this and it wasn't difficult at all. I made a pot of coffee and de-wicked and de-bridged my atty in about 10 minutes.

I didn't have problems with leaking ... but it did seem that for the most part my atomizer was flooded. I'd get about 3 huge, awesome toots where I said hell yeah! And right there I knew what everyone was aiming for ... but after that it just went back to gurgling again. I tried as best as possible to aim within the white rectangle. Not sure how much better aim I could get without a syringe.
 

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Aiming at the cup is not that necessary; the key is to, eventually, not drip more than only ONE 'small-average' drop if fully dewicked and debridged... And that is actually a nuisance, a PITA; so, maybe, just DEWICKING shall do next time. The possible advantages of de-bridging, if any, do not make up for the downside of having to re-drip constantly, IMHO.
 

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Not trying to step on anyone's toes, but I've ONLY used debridged and dewicked atty's for about a year now, so allow me to drop some knowledge.

1. The atty will not leak if you are careful when chopping that sucker. Leaking occurs when you man-handle the bridge and separate the mesh from the sides of the ceramic cup. That opens up a space to the bottom of the atty and liquid drains straight through.

2. A dry 510 atty will take four drops. Once the vapor drops significantly add three drops. Not one or two. I've never had a problem with a flooded atty after three drops. If this does happen, it just means you haven't vaped all the liquid in the cup. Try two drops until you get the hang of it, but I promise you, if the atty was properly stripped, it will hold three drops.

3. Aim doesn't matter one bit. Somewhere in the center is good enough.

4. Debridging DOES make a difference. The bridge, and it's mesh covering, just absorb liquid before it gets to the coil. That filters the liquid and weakens the flavor.

5. Debridging allows you to see the coil. This tells you when it's gunked up and needs a good cleaning. It also means you can see the coil for a proper dry burn.

Again, I'm not trying to smash any toes. But honestly, if you want to drip, why have anything between the coil and the liquid?

Just sayin'.
 

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Not trying to step on anyone's toes, but I've ONLY used debridged and dewicked atty's for about a year now, so allow me to drop some knowledge.

1. The atty will not leak if you are careful when chopping that sucker. Leaking occurs when you man-handle the bridge and separate the mesh from the sides of the ceramic cup. That opens up a space to the bottom of the atty and liquid drains straight through.

I agree but this is not the only circumstance which will translate into leaking. For many atties have been coming with a coil displacement from the center hole and the cup will not hold any liquid per se if the PV is slightly vertically positioned, as a late fashion of Chinese low-standards in manufacturing…! Also likely lately: A bad placement of the wicking fibers down the bridge may also cause flooding in a new atty.
And the problem, even with the coil rightly placed is not just ‘leaking’ per se, but CLOGGING/ FLODDING, for a flooded and clogged atty may not leak but the quality of the vape will be under-performing so to speak…

2. A dry 510 atty will take four drops. Once the vapor drops significantly add three drops. Not one or two. I've never had a problem with a flooded atty after three drops. If this does happen, it just means you haven't vaped all the liquid in the cup. Try two drops until you get the hang of it, but I promise you, if the atty was properly stripped, it will hold three drops.

A dry 510, if completely dry, may take up to 10 drops maybe, if you give it time to absorb the liquid and drip technically… The size to the drops, though is an ambiguous thing. But lets agree we could talk about a kind of ‘average’ size of a small drop from a DKNG regular bottle, for instance, though this will be non-accurate strictu sensu. The priming is done: from then on; once it is fully primed, if it is a debridged and de-wicked atomizer, eventually it will hold ONLY ONE of the before-mentioned drops! It may take 2 or three but they will make a FLOOD-CLOGGED vape since the size of the cup and element size prevent this from happening otherwise.
From your description it seems you let as much liquid as the cup can handle! If this is the case: WRONG! Maybe you like vaping this way but it means FLOODING! And performance-wise, this is not good!

3. Aim doesn't matter one bit. Somewhere in the center is good enough.

Yep. Agreed! Even dripping down the atties wall, if the metal-mesh surroundings of the cup are kept safe will still be good, since there is a connection to the wicking within the coil.

4. Debridging DOES make a difference. The bridge, and it's mesh covering, just absorb liquid before it gets to the coil. That filters the liquid and weakens the flavor.

This is not so; no FILTERING takes place in the wicking, or mesh. Yet, some circumstances may result in flavor being weakend, in a way…

5. Debridging allows you to see the coil. This tells you when it's gunked up and needs a good cleaning. It also means you can see the coil for a proper dry burn.

Yes… This is an up-side. And you could even re-place the coil from here. But one disadvantage could be backsplash into your mouth if the vape is hot! (This may be solved by a drip tip modded from cart, though…)

Again, I'm not trying to smash any toes. But honestly, if you want to drip, why have anything between the coil and the liquid?

Just sayin'.

‘Backsplash protection’; extra-puffs between drips (=extra wicking…), and eventually cart-capabilities may come in handy (when Tesla carts come round…Heee!)

Having said that; a fully de-bridged atty may be better than a dewicked one; agreed. But the difference is not that substantial, after all, empirically speaking. And the downsides ARE, so… Do the math…!

Maybe it works for you, but it would be better, even then, to encourage people NOT to remove their bridges at first so they can compare if they are finally going to do this and judge this on their own. So:
If you are planning to de-wick and debridge: Just go for dewicking solo: Try this first. If you want to continue then you would have a reference to compare…
 
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I've been using the newer pyrex drip tips on most all of my mods, no more liquid spitting up into my mouth, they also have a really nice draw to them. These have made my vaping experience much nice and anything that does that gets my vote...! Just thought I wold add that to what already been said
 

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Hi trips. Good job on taking up dripping. Its the only way to go in my opinion. Dewicking the atty is a bad Idea. There is no good reason to Dewick a atty. The Bridge and wick is essential to the functionality of the atty. Without the Bridge and wick its almost impossible to get more than 1 hit without having to drip again. You will leak bad and waste alot of juice by debridging. The flavor is unchanged by debridging. If you dont believe me try it and find out for yourself.

Dripping with the Ego and using a LR atty will be as good as your Ego can get. I think that the LR 510's work better than the LR 306. The reason I think this is because the 510s to me taste better and the juice isn't burnt up as fast. 3 drips in a 510 last longer than 3 drips in a 306. 306's seem to provide a much warmer vapor and a little more vapor but they burn juice fast and the flavor is pretty much the same.
 

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Alright .. so I tried it again.

This time, instead of removing the wick and bridge on a reg 510 atty, I went ahead and purchased a 1.5ohm LR 510 Atomizer already de-bridged. Along with this I got a Super T 510/901 Contour Regular Length Widemouth Delrin T-Tip. All this attached to a regular 3.7V / 650 Manual eGo Battery.

It's a beautiful thing. I couldn't be happier! Awesome flavor. Huge vapor.

Haven't had any problems with leaking, or flooding. I can sit back and vape a variety of flavors no problem, which was my main reason for wanting to drip in the first place. Dripping is easy .. no mess.

I'm a happy camper. Especially happy with this drip tip.
 

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Hi trips. Good job on taking up dripping. Its the only way to go in my opinion. Dewicking the atty is a bad Idea. There is no good reason to Dewick a atty. The Bridge and wick is essential to the functionality of the atty. Without the Bridge and wick its almost impossible to get more than 1 hit without having to drip again. You will leak bad and waste alot of juice by debridging. The flavor is unchanged by debridging. If you dont believe me try it and find out for yourself.

Dripping with the Ego and using a LR atty will be as good as your Ego can get. I think that the LR 510's work better than the LR 306. The reason I think this is because the 510s to me taste better and the juice isn't burnt up as fast. 3 drips in a 510 last longer than 3 drips in a 306. 306's seem to provide a much warmer vapor and a little more vapor but they burn juice fast and the flavor is pretty much the same.

Just saw this prior to posting my previous post.

I did get the LR atty and it is debridged. I purchased it that way. I am able to get about 6 hits before dripping again, no leaking. The flavor actually seems better than my regular 510 attys. Not sure if it's just the vendors where I purchased these items from, but the debridged atty seems to be working for me pretty well.
 

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Hey trip. Where did you get the debridged atty?


Hi Doomed. Believe it or not, FSUSA. FreedomSmokeUSA -- (link is to actual product.)

I was looking for one, so when I found it on FSUSA I went ahead got it. I was already buying some juices, and consolidating shipping costs seemed like a good idea. I'm not sure if you could find one elsewhere for a lower price, but this one is working like a dream. Very happy with it.
 
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