Dry Burning Advice

[mOJAVEpROVIDENCE]

i received my reo grand saturday, put a genuine joye LR 1.5ohm 510 atty on and was amazed by the performance! but a day or so later, after vaping vaporrenu's 80/20 mix tripple flavor banana nut bread juice, my atty was dying.

so i dry-burned it. i would just fire the atty and blow on it in 10 second intervals, letting it cool a little in-between. after doing this for a little bit, it would start to glow red much more, quicker, untill i started smelling a "burnt smell", so i stopped, wet the atty, and now it seems to be vaping fine.

what are your guys feelings on this? it being low resistance i know i should be careful, but i want to preserve my attys lifespan as long as possible, and of course, have the best vaping experience possible.

i would appreciate your feedback. thanks

 

[Kelemvor]

yes on LRs you should be very careful. 10 second bursts and it survived? that was really good luck or you missed to clean it with water and let it dry first. after that a dryburn is way more effective. i just peer down into the atomizer and stop at the point were it starts glowing. but never longer than 10 seconds, and i never let it glow longer that 2 seconds.
i always blow down to the coil during these bursts and let the atomizer cool down if i have the feeling the tube gets too hot.

at the point were it starts smelling bad, i still continue with short burns until the bad smell stops.

now its ready to be flushed with water again, dry and reprime.
my oldest 510 atomizer ( normal wattage) celebrated his 1st birthday long ago. it went from Black color to stainless steel in the meantime, but thats unimportant for me. i still use "him" in my rotation.

 

[zoiDman]

Most people over do it when they dry burn. I love watching some of the vids that go around showing an atty looking like a heat lamp.

You don't need to hold down so long. In fact, if you start to see orange, that is a danger sign. Just do short burst until you start to see smoke. Then let off. It might take 10 or 15 bursts but it is Much safer that just holding down the button until your atty looks like the surface of the sun. Jst keep giving it short bursts until there is no more smoke.

And never, Nerver, NEVER blow on it while the button is being pressed. When you blow on the atty with the button pressed the temperature of the atomizer wire spikes up Very fast. Think of it like blowing on BBQ coals.

Don't forget to put a couple of drops of e-Juice on the bridge after you dry burn and let it soak in for a few minutes.

 

[Kelemvor]

And never, Nerver, NEVER blow on it while the button is being pressed. When you blow on the atty with the button pressed the temperature of the atomizer wire spikes up Very fast. Think of it like blowing on BBQ coals.

why should it behave like a burning coal? any proof of that point?

 

[mOJAVEpROVIDENCE]

wow. i did kind of feel after dry burning it that i had somehow barely escaped some fatal car crash.

 

[zoiDman]

why should it behave like a burning coal? any proof of that point?

Your joking aren't you?

 

[Kelemvor]

no, i blow on them since over a year, so?

 

[zoiDman]

no, i blow on them since over a year, so?

Have you ever considered that if you Don't blow on the coil when it's Orange that your atomizers might last longer?

 

[Kelemvor]

longer than 1 1/2 year? no

 

[zoiDman]

longer than 1 1/2 year? no

Well then I have nothing more to tell you.

JSYK - I Completely believe that your have an atty that has lasted longer that a Year and a Half. Sure you do. But if you tell most people this on the ECF they will tell you that you are full of BS.

 

[Mr Pink]

The heat in the coil is being generated by voltage from a battery. It's not "burning" like fire, it's not dependent on oxygen, eh? I would think blowing on it would only cool it and make the battery work harder.

 

[zoiDman]

I’m not refereeing to the coil “burning”. Because, as you mentioned, the wire doesn’t burn. I’m refereeing to what is on the coil that is burning. The built up “gunk” that you are trying to burn off.

 

[Kelemvor]

JSYK - I Completely believe that your have an atty that has lasted longer that a Year and a Half. Sure you do. But if you tell most people this on the ECF they will tell you that you are full of BS.

is this the discussuion style i read about, where you stuff an insult into a nice wrapper just to get around moderation?

in that case the discussion has ended, and i know what to think of your posts in the future.

 

[zoiDman]

is this the discussuion style i read about, where you stuff an insult into a nice wrapper just to get around moderation?

in that case the discussion has ended, and i know what to think of your posts in the future.

Very Nicely put... But that was not my intention.

The intention of my post was to alert you that if you tell ECF members that you have used an atomizer for more than 18 Months, it is going to be looked upon with Great Skepticism.

That and to dispel the belief that dry burning is not without Dangers and can Greatly reduce the life span of an atty. Which the OP has just recently learned.

 

[Kelemvor]

i'm still waiting how you backup your statement about the atomizer coil getting harmed by the gentle blows during activation.

and why did the OP learned about the dangers? he is just curious if he should be more careful or can do it more aggressive next time... as far as i understand his post, the atomizer is working fine after the dryburn.

and why did you have to dispel a believe i never ever stated? did you even read my post?

 

[warped911]

Well then I have nothing more to tell you.

JSYK - I Completely believe that your have an atty that has lasted longer that a Year and a Half. Sure you do. But if you tell most people this on the ECF they will tell you that you are full of BS.

I still have my 2 originals that i got from Cignot over a year ago.. 1 of them i dont use sept to play with because it burns way to hot. and always smells burnt&smokes. but the other works fine, just seems a weee bit weak

 

[zoiDman]

i'm still waiting how you backup your statement about the atomizer coil getting harmed by the gentle blows during activation.

and why did the OP learned about the dangers? he is just curious if he should be more careful or can do it more aggressive next time... as far as i understand his post, the atomizer is working fine after the dryburn.

and why did you have to dispel a believe i never ever stated? did you even read my post?

It appears you have never heard of the Bessemer Process?

You can place a piece of steel in burning coal and it just gets hot. But if you blow on the coals, injecting more Oxygen, the temperature increases and the steel can be melted. Perhaps when you have some free time you might read up on it.

As to the OP’s results of Dry Burning, I’ll leave that to the OP describe if they choose to.

 

[Kelemvor]

we have a coil thats heated in a surrounding glob of residue.
in my experience the blowing cools down the surrounding atomizer parts like the silicon washer , and the coil.
if it produces a kind of shock that breaks up the thicker residues i see that as an improvement.

and since i do it my way, my atomizers go fine with it. i'm not one that tosses atomizers every month like many others.
in fact some people just smile at me because i do keep my atomizers in working condition that long.

right, i don't know the Bessemer Process, but i know a fellow vaper thats an expert on metals.
i may ask what he thinks about it.

[edit] i asked and i got a satisfying answer for me, and i keep on blowing on my atomizer coil.

if you have still concerns ask your local metal pro.
blowing from mouth on an atomizer, which is a finished hardened metal, has not the same effect as injecting o² into a steel melt.
sorry that i don't get into detail, but some fellows around may know better and tell you.

 

[zoiDman]

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right, i don't know the Bessemer Process, but i know a fellow vaper thats an expert on metals.
i may ask what he thinks about it.

[edit] i asked and i got a satisfying answer for me, and i keep on blowing on my atomizer coil.

if you have still concerns ask your local metal pro.
blowing from mouth on an atomizer, which is a finished hardened metal, has not the same effect as injecting o² into a steel melt.
sorry that i don't get into detail, but some fellows around may know better and tell you.

Thank you for clearing all this up. Now we know the truth.

And thank you for clearing up that issue about blowing on things to make them hotter. What a fool I have been blowing on BBQ coals all these years just to make them hotter. Now I know that it doesn't.

Hey next time you see your metal friend, ask him if he knows if a metal heated to yellow is hotter than a metal heated to orange. I notice that when I blow on my atty's while holding down the power button that the color changes from orange to yellow sometimes.

 

[Kelemvor]

can it be that you still not understand whats this all about? or is it that you just don't accept any truth besides your very own?

i know that the person i asked is a real expert ( outside of vaping) concerning different metals, and through his experience with atomizers and rebuilding them found e.g. how to obtain a usable coil for selfmade atomizers, the Kanthal btw.

do you really think i doubt his words in any manner because someone like you tells me that my really nice working dry burn is flawed?