Dual coil with ni200??

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Kloudz

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I have a billow v2 tank and a IPV3 LI which is a tc mod. I bought some 24g ni200 from my local vape shop which the guy recommend, he said I could do 2 coils @ 7 wraps and would be in a .4 ohm ballpark. Well I tried that and it read on the mod "to low". So is it possible to do a dual coil setup on a Billow v2?
 

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I have a billow v2 tank and a IPV3 LI which is a tc mod. I bought some 24g ni200 from my local vape shop which the guy recommend, he said I could do 2 coils @ 7 wraps and would be in a .4 ohm ballpark

Your LI is good down to 0.05 in TC mode, so with a 2.5mm coil you'd need 19 wraps on each coil using 24g Ni200. That would never fit inside a Billow, and even if you had a dripper you could fit it in, and used all 100 TC joules of your IPV, you'd have a cold vape with a ramp up time almost measured in minutes. Long story short, that vape shop guy is clueless, and I have to wonder why they even STOCK 24 gauge Ni200. Did I mention your vape shop guy is an idiot?

Even with 28g ni200 I still would need 80 wraps.

But you're not shooting for 0.4 with Ni200, you're shooting for something above the mod's low limit of 0.05. With 28g Ni200, you'd only need 8 2.5mm wraps per coil to hit that. 10 wraps would be better, putting you at 0.06 ohms and giving you more margin for error, but that will be a problem on that cramped, awful-for-temp-control-builds center-post Billow deck.

Why is it that I can change my setting to ni200 on my mod and use kanthal in the tank and vape at 420º ?

Because you're not vaping at 420f. You're just throwing whatever joules you've selected at that Kanthal coil, and it keeps throwing all those joules because no matter how many joules you throw at that Kanthal coil the resistance won't climb much, so the mod never cuts power, because as far as its concerned, it's never reached your set temperature. It'll keep throwing power to that coil even after the cotton has went bone dry and burned to ash, because the resistance barely changes. That flat resistance across temp ranges is why nobody uses Kanthal coils for temp control. :)
 
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Thank you so much for all that awesome info. I'm gonna take that wire back today and explain to him what you explained to me. Could I also use 30g ni200 as well a 28?

Also what is the story with titanium?

Yeah, you can use 30g Ni200, and you'l be able to build dual spaced coils that fit on your deck no problem, but it's more of a pain to work with than 28g, pretty fragile stuff, and you'll have a better than average chance of destroying the coil if you ever want to re-wick it.

Titanium is my metal of choice for TC vaping these days. I like 26g Titanium Grade 1 for dual coils, and 24g for single. It's much more sturdy than Ni200, almost as easy to work with as Kanthal, you can make contact coils with it, and some claim a cleaner "taste".

Here's a good guide on how to build with titanium:

http://blog.craftvapery.com/joshs-definitive-guide-to-temperature-control-with-titanium-wire/

And I'd stay away from the Triton RBA for any sort of temp control builds, the bottom leg will always be much longer than the top, and that causes no end of problems. And, well, it (and a Subtank Mini) sucks even in Kanthal compared to a good "real" RTA, which you already have.
 
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