Dumbing it down...

[ChristopherCoy]

Ok... so I've got my little week of being analog free under my belt, and I've got about 3 weeks worth of research. Much of which I still dont understand, by ANY stretch of the imagination. So I need a little help 'dumbing it down'. I'm electricity stupid, and all the numbers are quite confusing.

As I understand it, the higher the mah is on the batteries the longer they last correct? So if my 1000mah battery lasts me about 6 hours, then some of those 18650 2500mah batteries should last twice as long, if not longer... correct?

And what are the differences in voltage? 3.7, 5, 6, and 7 volts... I am assuming that the higher the voltage the higher the heat, and thus the more vapor... correct?

I ask because I started out with the Blu's, and promptly returned them. They didn't do a thing for me. Then I bought the Volcano Inferno, which is what I've used this past week, and I really like it. Its small enough for me to carry around, and produces a nice amount of vapor. But being the impatient person that I am, I am wanting something bigger that produces more vapor in a shorter period of time.

So my last question is - when looking at large PV's, if I'm using a 510 atty/carto on it, will it produce the same amount of vapor that my Inferno does, but just last longer because of the bigger batteries? Or will the combination of batteries/voltage produce more vapor no matter which atty I use?

(forgive the ignorance. I'm in that stage where I've got so much information in my head that I'm trying to sort it all out)

 

[whiskey]

To try & answer a few things Yes...bigger voltage will give warmer & more vapor but that also depends on the juice(PG/VG)
I found that the Inferno bats are lasting longer than some of my mod bats
It will also produce the same vapor with the cartimizer on a mod as on the other..this is all what I have noticed with my PV's
and yes I am still stalking you Chris ...LOL

 

[Springbird]

Try out the Mega LR atties and cartomizers on your Inferno. They will give you more vapor than the regular 510 atty. There is also a LR 510 atty I believe that should also increase vapor production. The LR atties burn out more quickly than the regular ones.

 

[ChristopherCoy]

I found that the Inferno bats are lasting longer than some of my mod bats

So what would be the benefit of moving up to something like a Silver Bullet? Other than battery life?

The way its making sense to me - I would be better off just buying another battery or two for my Inferno, since I'd get the same amount of vapor with both setups.

 

[ChristopherCoy]

Try out the Mega LR atties and cartomizers on your Inferno. They will give you more vapor than the regular 510 atty. There is also a LR 510 atty I believe that should also increase vapor production. The LR atties burn out more quickly than the regular ones.

Dont they drain the juice out of your batteries faster? Right now I can't afford that. I work 12 hour shifts, and have two hours of driving to/from work. I need something that is going to last me 14 hours or longer.

 

[whiskey]

So what would be the benefit of moving up to something like a Silver Bullet? Other than battery life?

The way its making sense to me - I would be better off just buying another battery or two for my Inferno, since I'd get the same amount of vapor with both setups.

Thats why I did that Chris...If you want extra punch...throw on an LR & your gonna have enough trust me....

 

[Jim211]

Smaller batteries drop voltage faster witch equals less vapor and very hard on the batteries. Personally I would need a 1800mah battery for all day. I used to have smaller batteries but now i build my own mods and 2 aa (14500) mods last me all day even when i vape heavy. Thats 2 900 mah batteries. The bigger batteries have a longer life span also ie, they take more charges. Vapor also depends on your juice and atomizer/cartomizer resistance and all that. It takes some learning. Sorry its hard for me to try to teach this stuff and if you want something explained better ask because its nice to help in my own little way if I can.

 

[AttyPops]

As I understand it, the higher the mah is on the batteries the longer they last correct? So if my 1000mah battery lasts me about 6 hours, then some of those 18650 2500mah batteries should last twice as long, if not longer... correct?

Basically correct, assuming the same atomizer.

And what are the differences in voltage? 3.7, 5, 6, and 7 volts... I am assuming that the higher the voltage the higher the heat, and thus the more vapor... correct?

Correct-amundo again! For the time being, I think it would be safe to ignore the 6 & 7 volt stuff (that's real HV - High Voltage - vaping). Basically, most 510 type batteries produces about 3.2 volts. Mods using 14500 batteries and the like produce 3.7 volts. Some passthrough (direct PTs) produce 5 volts as do some mods.

Think of plumbing pipes. The voltage is the water pressure, the current is equivalent to the flow rate, and the resistance is a valve/spigot. Low resistance (a very wide open valve) allows more water to flow. This is like an LR atty. LR atties are often used on 3.X volt devices to get more of a "hit". Normal resistance is often used on 5 volt devices.

Then I bought the Volcano Inferno, which is what I've used this past week, and I really like it. Its small enough for me to carry around, and produces a nice amount of vapor. But being the impatient person that I am, I am wanting something bigger that produces more vapor in a shorter period of time.

So my last question is - when looking at large PV's, if I'm using a 510 atty/carto on it, will it produce the same amount of vapor that my Inferno does, but just last longer because of the bigger batteries? Or will the combination of batteries/voltage produce more vapor no matter which atty I use?

So now we get to it... it's also the OHMs of the ATTY that counts, as well as the drain rate of the device, and the voltage of the device. Of course, the more voltage, or higher-drain, the less time a battery will last and the more mah you want. And then there is personal preference. You need to experiment with different ohm ratings, you may find that the 3.x volt vaping is fine, but you want a slightly lower ohm rating on your atty. However, see this link:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/madvapes/127262-about-low-resistance-specific-batteries.html

EDIT: as far as the driving goes......

http://www.madvapes.com/2-amp-Car-to-USB-Adapter_p_2358.html - for a 5 v direct PT
For a battery-attached-PT at 3.x volts, you can use a lesser amp adapter (usually around 500 ma).

 

[wv2win]

So what would be the benefit of moving up to something like a Silver Bullet? Other than battery life?

The way its making sense to me - I would be better off just buying another battery or two for my Inferno, since I'd get the same amount of vapor with both setups.

Batteries that provide 5 or 6 volts of power, provide warmer vapor, which provides better throat hit, which better simulates what you were use to with analogs. And of course they also provide a much longer charge that stock 3.7 volt batteries. And the mAh rating goes more to how long the charge will last and not the warmth of the vapor.

 

[PoliticallyIncorrect]

Dont they drain the juice out of your batteries faster? Right now I can't afford that. I work 12 hour shifts, and have two hours of driving to/from work. I need something that is going to last me 14 hours or longer.

Yes, an LR atty will run the battery down quicker, but I've been getting a whole day out of my 1000mAh/LR atty combination, and I ain't no light vaper.

A Silver Bullet with a single 18650 3.7V, 2400mAh battery would certainly get you 14+ hours, but no more horsepower than your Inferno (I have both, BTW). You could use the SB with two RCR123A 3.0V batteries; that'll knock you off your feet, but you'd need two sets of batteries to get through the day.

Is your work situation such that you can't use the 650mAh passthru? If so, you could use it to-and-from work with a 12V socket adaptor.

 

[ChristopherCoy]

EDIT: as far as the driving goes......

2 amp Car to USB Adapter - for a 5 v direct PT
For a battery-attached-PT at 3.x volts, you can use a lesser amp adapter (usually around 500 ma).

oooh nice! Can I use my Inferno PT on this? It says 5v... isn't the Inferno a 3.2?

 

[whiskey]

I agree PI...I am no expert but I have mods & all the big boys...they seem to drain their bats faster than the Inferno...I get the same if not better TH & vapor with it as I did the big boys..With battery time to spare..I have been at this over a year now...

 

[ChristopherCoy]

Is your work situation such that you can't use the 650mAh passthru? If so, you could use it to-and-from work with a 12V socket adaptor.

Yes. Unfortunately I'm a 911 operator/police dispatcher and we are the first people citizens see when they walk in the door. So because perception is reality, if they see vapor, then we are smoking in a public building. So I am forced to go outside and vape with smokers, like I always have. I am able to charge both batteries while I am on shift, so I can use them for about half the day, and then I charge them on my lunch hour. But then I've got to carry the chargers back home to charge them overnight.

But... from what I've put together, and what I've read here, it looks like all my problems would be remedied with another Inferno kit. Two chargers - home/work, two 1000mah batteries, all day vaping.

I guess I'll have to try the Cisco LR atty's that Volcano has on my next order.

 

[AttyPops]

oooh nice! Can I use my Inferno PT on this? It says 5v... isn't the Inferno a 3.2?

I'm not sure what "It says 5v" means... But if I were to guess right now, without your answer, I'd say the the Inferno PT takes 5V INPUT to the charger (AKA the USB connection), but gives 3.2 volts OUTPUT to the atty. You may only need a 500 mili-amp (that's 1/2 amp) adapter for your car. Look at the wall plug for your USB PT in the kit. What does it say? Is that what you plug your PT into?

You could try: http://www.madvapes.com/Car-Adapter-for-USB-Chargers_p_2239.html - check the input specs for your PT

 

[whiskey]

Yes I believe your correct Atty...

 

[ChristopherCoy]

Look at the wall plug for your USB PT in the kit. What does it say? Is that what you plug your PT into?

*squatting down behind the couch*


....now I feel like a total idiot.

 

[AttyPops]

*squatting down behind the couch*


....now I feel like a total idiot.

Don't. You're not the 1st, nor the last..... lol This crap gets confusing.

I edited the above to allow lower amps.......

 

[whiskey]

Don't hide be hind the couch I can't stalk you from there

 

[AttyPops]

<snip> But... from what I've put together, and what I've read here, it looks like all my problems would be remedied with another Inferno kit. <snip>

Heck, with 4 batteries, you should be set without having to worry about chargers. Just charge em overnight at home. And you will even have a spare if something goes wonkey. (Yes... wonkey is a technical term.... like gremlins... ).

 

[whiskey]

Hey now thats a sweet idea Atty....