E-Cig. and drug tests

[danielwd]

Anything to worry about as far as some foreign substance showing up on a drug test from using e-cigarettes? Just curious.

Anyone taken a drug test lately that uses c-cig. (and doesn't do drugs - LOL)

Thanks....

 

[mauzey]

Just Nicotine, probably less than if you were a smoker.

 

[WomanOfHeart]

No, not unless they're specifically looking for Cotinine, which is the metabolite of nicotine.

 

[Brutus Buckeye]

No, not unless they're specifically looking for Cotinine, which is the metabolite of nicotine.

This is correct. I work in the drug testing business and this is the only concern, Most testing for this is for insurance purposes and we are seeing it in school athletics related testing and also some medical field positions.

 

[danielwd]

No, not unless they're specifically looking for Cotinine, which is the metabolite of nicotine.

Why would they look for such? Is this stuff in any drugs or anything?

 

[danielwd]

This is correct. I work in the drug testing business and this is the only concern, Most testing for this is for insurance purposes and we are seeing it in school athletics related testing and also some medical field positions.

Okay, now I'm interested. Another question - I am applying for a school administration job - assistant principalship.

Anything to worry about?

 

[Brutus Buckeye]

Daniel, it would depend on if they do Continine testing. Most schools do not test employees for this at this time so you are probably OK, but again it depends on what testing they perform.

 

[mauzey]

Not unless they are one of those NAZI organizations that include a ban on hiring smokers, then they will test for Continine.

 

[YKruss]

Don't worry - I just recently went through the drug test for TS type of job with no problem.

P.S.: I've been exclusively vaping for 21 months, not a single cig.

 

[Katatonik]

1. It can if they're like Mauzey is referring to.
2. It could hurt in medical insurance issues. Some companies don't hire smokers at all, and some hire smokers with limited medical insurance. Depends on the company or (in your case) the school district/state laws. I don't know if medical insurance is based on tobacco use, or nicotine use. E-cigs are a little new and so I don't think the distinction has been thoroughly evaluated in terms of insurance coverage.

 

[danielwd]

From the input...the next question would be, if they do test for "continine", and a positive test shows, is there any way they can tell the distinction between a nonsmoker and a smoker. Is there any other chemical they look for that IS in tabacco that is of course NOT in e-liquid?

This would not be fair - to limit someone's insurance because they vape. Vaping and smoking are like apples and oranges!

Has anyone had the insurance offered to them limited, after being hired by a company, because of a positive "continine" test as a result of vaping? Or does anyone know of such a case.

 

[Brutus Buckeye]

I agree Daniel that it is unfair and I cringe every time I see one of these but at this time that is the only test they perform. Hopefully that will change in the future but who knows when. There was a similar post about this but cannot remember where and the OP said they had inquired to their insurance company and if they provided use of a PV then it would be OK, but I remain skeptical. There are other tests that could be used like Co2 but that is not done at this time.

 

[Sprint 1050]

Wow this is surprising to read, that there are companies that wont hire you, if your a smoker.
I have had the opposite happen, my insurance broker came by to visit the other day and is now applying for a 25% discount on my Life Cover premiums because i gave up smoking more than 3 months ago.

 

[Kobudo]

When I was just out of high school, I would simply chug a gallon of water before taking those tests, urinate once, the next one would be very diluted. It seems most companies don't pay to assure concentrations are high enough to be valid. Didn't fail either time I took those tests.

It seems a bit silly to discuss that due to presence of indicators of nicotine use.

 

[billo]

I've had two drug tests since taking up vaping. They were looking for the usual street drugs I guess.

No problems.

However, I did tell the company that ordered the tests that I was vaping, just in case. This might be a good idea for you, also.

 

[kiltedfox]

I'm in the military, and since making "the switch" from analogs I have taken NUMEROUS drug tests (le sigh). No problems. The military hasn't nazified itself enough to test for nicotine use.