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E-Cig at Lawtons Drugs in Halifax - Review

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JayTheVapingGuy

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hey,
I don't know if its the same brand across the board, and i really wish i'd snapped at least a picture of it before finally getting ...... off at it and returning it (and getting my money back!!) I bought It last night, the initial kit and an extra pack of "cartridges". I don't have the brand in hand, will go back and find out the name of the brand for further data. I paid 60.87 after taxes for the atty, battery and 15 cartridges (original kit comes with 5 and pack of cartridges cmes with 10)

First impressions:

i get this small cigarette pack-like box. its wrapped in cellophane and impossible to get out of the cellophane without judicious use of teeth knives and a blowtorch (well... mebbe not the blowtorch). Upon Getting the cellophane off, i then spend 2 or 3 minutes trying to figure out where the tabs are and how to open it up... seriously? don't they want us to get at the product?? (apparently not!!!)

once the box is open, there is a tray to pull out with a foam protectant core. In it are the microscopic battery and equally small atomizer.

Physically, i'd say that they're about the size of the original 306 battery (yeah, 306's aren't just atties :p) from size i suspect it might last as little as 30 min up to mebbe 2 hours, only because it draws such minimal power which i'll discuss later.

the connectors look like a cut down 510. it has the same physical ratio as a 510 only there are about half the threads missing(ie the connector end looks sanded down by about half) I was able to screw in my 510 atty but it stood at least 4-6mm above the rim of the battery connection. Conversely, when i tried to screw the atty from the lawtons kit into my Darwin it didn't go far enough down to make contact with the centre post of the atty.

it also has a cartridge system very much like a model 103. the cap has a small, tiny, resevoir in it that might hold 6-8 drops of fluid. it was covered with a film and had to be pierced by the bridge to access the 0 nic fluid that tasted just like what i expected... .... the bridge, being exposed to that kind of force, was ready to fall out the moment i saw it...

So i put it together, and... nothing... what??? i take the cartridge off and see that the metal foil that had sealed the cart was blocking the flow... so i carefully remove the foil, almost knocking the bridge off... and reinsert the cart.. give it a min to start flowing and vape... a taste... sorta... i vape again, HEY, theres' almost vapor... i vape again, there it is... 2 small whisps come out of my mouth... useless compareed to the plumes of smoke i am used to~!

i switch to my lr510 (1.7ohm) and vape it on the Darwin at 8.5w... yum... i take it off of the darwin, put it on the itty bitty thing and i get the same thing, just a very very very weak hit.. i don't think the thing is capable of producing much of a hit at all... it almost makes me feel like their products are drawn from the basement of 2008 stock that couldnt' go...

i fiddle a bit more to be sure its not me, try charging it (shows a full charge) and try again... nope... it doesn't work. I get angry... i figured, sure, there should be a bit of vapour and i can show people that while ....ty, you can still vape on it and be good to go...

i hold onto devices that don't really work that great so that I can show it off as something not to buy if you can avoid it... i couldn't justify doing that here... it just was way way too frustration and annoying to have a device that wouldn't even produce more that a waft of vapour... returned it to the store and then told them what i had already told them... that the vapour was almost non existant and that i coudln't use it.. demonstrated what the darwin can do (at 4.2w, wasn't going to completely dazzle them) and then they gave me my money back.

Conclusions... while i'm glad that there are devices in the stores now... i wish that they were at least a bit better devices, even off name 510's but to sell such crap is only goign to cause us to have issues with people hating ecigs.
 

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Conclusions... while i'm glad that there are devices in the stores now... i wish that they were at least a bit better devices, even off name 510's but to sell such crap is only goign to cause us to have issues with people hating ecigs.

Hmmm...kind of an ingenious plan by HC and BP.....
 

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Maybe some of these store vendors should receive a card from ECF to get some proper info on the uses and makings of vaping so the public can get a decent PV to vape if they wish to try out. These vendors are just as ignorant to the vaping scene as anyone, so let's update the info and Jay, maybe direct the owner to this forum. Knowledge is all it takes.
Cheers Jay and thanks for the biopsy of the crappy PV.
 

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LOL...

one more point... after realizing how crappy it was, i went back to get my refund... told the sales clerk it doesn't work. when she asked what i meant, i took it out of the packaging, assembled it, and vaped it and demonstrated what it did, and then demonstrated the Darwin at 4.2w... asked them what they thought...

they were amazed at the vapour production... i know that after that demonstration, they will not be so quick to say anything positive about the devices.
 

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it was a brand i'd never heard of before... all i can remember of the brand is that it was imported by a company on behalf of a UK company. it had a nice solid plastic card that could be used to show to authorities that its not smoke (similar to what you guys do at Electrovapors.com with your business cards.)
 

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Yes it is, get you POed at the thing and get you to return to the stinkies, not.

Switcher,

to be frank, that is exactly what i thought... HC will not stop these devices in any way, shape, form or fashion because they're so crappy that anyone who tries one will immediately turn around and reject them. The thought process that i can identify is, if they reject one variant on E-cigs, they're more likely to reject all variants on E-cigs and tell other people about how crappy they are.

I actually hope that someone comes out with a decent version of the no nic E-cig for use in stores so that more people want to use them... I don't care that they're so overpriced... i'd rather see an overpriced half decent device out there than see an underpriced ....ty device out there.

One thing that we, as enthusiasts, fail to realize is that there are two camps of vapers... there is the small portion that knows about the great devices and are conversant and on forums or at least view the forums and then there are the ones who only want to buy a device, don't want/care or know about being involved on forums... that is by and large the biggest group of vapers.

I'm sure that even within the canadian realm, Canadian Vendors can probably support this information... there are a few hundred "active" members on the forum (active being delineated by viewing the forums once a month or so, and/or even registering on ECF or other forums) but between the dozen plus major vendors, i'm sure that they each see more vapers buying their items that will never show up on the forum...

its that group, the ones who won't send money using EMT's or buy online who are being hit the most... the average person who goes to a mac's or a drugstore or a dollar store who is going to see this device (40.00ish) and try it and hate it and then not want to go online to try an 80.00 device...

do i sound like a conspiracy theorist? sorry... i believe it
 

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I've seen the (I think it was a SmokeNV) at the Seven-11 here. They wanted 11.95 for one battery three carts and no charger! Talk about a racket! I've been temped to grab one to see what it's like. What I really hate is that they had three types with ten "e-cigs" each. Regular, menthol and hookah (spelling?). With in a few days the regular's where gone and only a two or three of the other ones where left. Really pisses me off that I didn't see someone buying one. I would have brought them back to my place and given them a 510 and a few business cards of online shops. I'm sure they never bought another one and won't even consider it an alternative to analogs.
 

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London Drugs sells the same thing here in B.C. the company is called Jasper and Jasper I bought 1 before my smoke nv and 510(love both of these) they are nothing but crap overpriced taste like S$%#. Glad u got your money back I tossed mine The company is based out of U.K. looks like a real cig but far from tasting or throat hit
 
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Switcher,

to be frank, that is exactly what i thought... HC will not stop these devices in any way, shape, form or fashion because they're so crappy that anyone who tries one will immediately turn around and reject them. The thought process that i can identify is, if they reject one variant on E-cigs, they're more likely to reject all variants on E-cigs and tell other people about how crappy they are.

I actually hope that someone comes out with a decent version of the no nic E-cig for use in stores so that more people want to use them... I don't care that they're so overpriced... i'd rather see an overpriced half decent device out there than see an underpriced ....ty device out there.

One thing that we, as enthusiasts, fail to realize is that there are two camps of vapers... there is the small portion that knows about the great devices and are conversant and on forums or at least view the forums and then there are the ones who only want to buy a device, don't want/care or know about being involved on forums... that is by and large the biggest group of vapers.

I'm sure that even within the canadian realm, Canadian Vendors can probably support this information... there are a few hundred "active" members on the forum (active being delineated by viewing the forums once a month or so, and/or even registering on ECF or other forums) but between the dozen plus major vendors, i'm sure that they each see more vapers buying their items that will never show up on the forum...

its that group, the ones who won't send money using EMT's or buy online who are being hit the most... the average person who goes to a mac's or a drugstore or a dollar store who is going to see this device (40.00ish) and try it and hate it and then not want to go online to try an 80.00 device...

do i sound like a conspiracy theorist? sorry... i believe it

I agree with that but i think the smokenv disposable 808s are actually a pretty decent unit, despite been a little overpriced. ( tried one myself)
 

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I agree with that but i think the smokenv disposable 808s are actually a pretty decent unit, despite been a little overpriced. ( tried one myself)

again... don't care that prices are high on the devices that are half decent producers.... as long as the ....ty devices are removed from shelves.
 

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Switcher,

to be frank, that is exactly what i thought... HC will not stop these devices in any way, shape, form or fashion because they're so crappy that anyone who tries one will immediately turn around and reject them. The thought process that i can identify is, if they reject one variant on E-cigs, they're more likely to reject all variants on E-cigs and tell other people about how crappy they are.

I actually hope that someone comes out with a decent version of the no nic E-cig for use in stores so that more people want to use them... I don't care that they're so overpriced... i'd rather see an overpriced half decent device out there than see an underpriced ....ty device out there.

One thing that we, as enthusiasts, fail to realize is that there are two camps of vapers... there is the small portion that knows about the great devices and are conversant and on forums or at least view the forums and then there are the ones who only want to buy a device, don't want/care or know about being involved on forums... that is by and large the biggest group of vapers.

I'm sure that even within the canadian realm, Canadian Vendors can probably support this information... there are a few hundred "active" members on the forum (active being delineated by viewing the forums once a month or so, and/or even registering on ECF or other forums) but between the dozen plus major vendors, i'm sure that they each see more vapers buying their items that will never show up on the forum...

its that group, the ones who won't send money using EMT's or buy online who are being hit the most... the average person who goes to a mac's or a drugstore or a dollar store who is going to see this device (40.00ish) and try it and hate it and then not want to go online to try an 80.00 device...

do i sound like a conspiracy theorist? sorry... i believe it

I am sure our "tea party" will go well. Remember the 2 cooks from last meet? that is why exposure is key locally. If we secure Wharf Wraps for our 3rd meet that would be great as well, and we may alternate between sites. Baby steps exposure requires baby steps and acceptance. I vape where ever I want when ever I want and have not had a major issue with it.

Forums <---- plural only represent 10% of vapers in the world, they are out there.
 

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.....Forums <---- plural only represent 10% of vapers in the world, they are out there.

Switcher,

to be honest, i think even that is a high number... from the discussions i've had with vendors across the board, in canada and the States, that is at the upper line of "Enthusiast Vapers"...

i was just sitting here remembering my first order, HappyVaper.com seeing the precise and thinking I would never buy something like that... less than a year later i'm back at HappyVaper.com buying the Darwin.
 
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