My Short Romance With The Darwin (So Far...)

[shades]

Wonderful conversations! People sharing their opinions and their love for certain devices and everyone being ever so civil

The wonderful thing about the twist is it's ego-ie-ness and its great gateway-ie-ness to vv. It is with out a doubt my recommendation for the newly entered.

I am for the first time enjoying dripping because of my fear of juice mouth from the PTB days.. thanks to drip tips and decent atty's ( like the ever noob friendly brigeless ones ) I am curious again about it.

Plus with a possible bottom feeder in the works, I need to get my head around this stuff and I appreciate the open dialog everyone is having on the subject.

 

[NoizMaker]

I kinda went through a snobby phase -- and if I'm being honest, there's no way I could get by with just a straight eGo for long. I need my VV! I need the choice, even if I'm not always using it at ranges that exceed an unregulated eGo battery. (I've never vaped at anything lower than 3.7 except when I didn't have anything else.) But these days I've kind of adopted a "right device for the job" kind of attitude. I have cartos and clearos that perform excellent on an ordinary eGo. Most of my stuff works great on the Twist. Dual coils need a lot more muscle, so the ProVari v2, EVO, Vmax or Lava Tube 1.5T get the job. Or if I have a medium resistance dual I stack the Silver Bullet. (2.5ohm duals work great in that configuration. Or they did when SmokTech made good cartos, anyway.)

Right now I have a tanked Boge SR on the ProVari at 5V, a 3ml Firebird (SR) on the Twist at 4.2, Stardust 2 with LR head on an unregulated eGo, another tanked Boge SR on the VMax, and a SR 1.2ml Firebird on the LT 1.5T at 4.2V. They all get used and loved.

I'm glad you can relate as this straight eGo vaping with an LR atty is wearing me thin, lol.

I really do miss my regulated vaping. It's not so much a snobbiness as it is an experience thing. As I said before, it would be like giving a full flavour smoker an ultra-light and expecting them to be satiated. I think the way of the future for all new PV devices is voltage or wattage regulation and with VV being well matured in this market and the Kick/ DNA series of products from Evolv, the e-cig market is going to see some intriguing new devices and regulated vaping will be the norm.

Personally I would like to see a mod that is Variable Wattage, Juice Fed, and machined out of Aluminium that isn't priced over $200 hit the market sometime soon now that the eGo Twist has finally given us a VV eGo form factor.

 

[NoizMaker]

Wonderful conversations! People sharing their opinions and their love for certain devices and everyone being ever so civil

The wonderful thing about the twist is it's ego-ie-ness and its great gateway-ie-ness to vv. It is with out a doubt my recommendation for the newly entered.

I am for the first time enjoying dripping because of my fear of juice mouth from the PTB days.. thanks to drip tips and decent atty's ( like the ever noob friendly brigeless ones ) I am curious again about it.

Plus with a possible bottom feeder in the works, I need to get my head around this stuff and I appreciate the open dialog everyone is having on the subject.

Haha, I am generally quite civil

 

[wood]

Well that takes a little explaining but I think I can explain it. Back when cartos still lagged behind and atomizers seemed to be the way of the future, a user here at ECF (Cisco ) decided to start making superior atomizers with a high quality NiChrome coil vs run of the mill atomizers that had very inconsistent and frail coils. Really that is the only secret to any good atomizer.

Cisco atties were the rock-star of the atomizer world for a long time due to the quality design and longevity they touted but were actually not as good or as durable as Ikenvape atomizers. IKV atties are all around better atomizers IMO these days as Ciscos contract with his manufacturer is over and higher quality coils are now pretty common on the market.

I'd say if you want to know the difference give a Cisco 306 a test and then try an IKV 306 afterwards and choose for yourself. I actually have an old review I wrote up back when Switched and I traded so we could see which was better that I will post here once I locate it, if possible, it was quite a while back. EDIT: Apparently that review is way too old to still be on the servers here. sorry shades

thats odd cause i find the cisco to blow the ikv under the water , but everyone is different , both great quality though

 

[DemonCleaner]

We get so spoiled, don't we? I remember when I first got my eGos, how excited and amazed I was. Now using an eGo seems like taking a step into the stone ages. Have we become too snobby? I don't know. It is strange though.

I totally remember those days. The five oclock whistle would blow, I'd slide off the tail of my dinosaur and pick up some brontosaurus ribs.( careful, those things will effing flip your car.) After dinner I'd pop a pyramid tea bag into a cartridge and toot away on my auto ego.

 

[NoizMaker]

thats odd cause i find the cisco to blow the ikv under the water , but everyone is different , both great quality though

I think really it's a matter of the setup you are using that really determines which is the winner here. In a regulated vaping environment like the Darwin or the Provari the Ikenvape atty works best for me, but if I am on an eGo with PWM then it is the Cisco hands down. That's really why I say the IKV's win in my books.

But does a Cisco top an IKV on an AW IMR battery? Yes. I think this really is the deciding factor for me. If I have an IKV atty on my Darwin the flavour comes through more while the heat and TH are on par with a Cisco. Maybe that is the key to why someone would prefer one to the other? I don't really know but that is how I see it.

 

[NoizMaker]

I totally remember those days. The five oclock whistle would blow, I'd slide off the tail of my dinosaur and pick up some brontosaurus ribs.( careful, those things will effing flip your car.) After dinner I'd pop a pyramid tea bag into a cartridge and toot away on my auto ego.

Those were the golden years of vaping, weren't they? I have tried and tried to find more Rath's Pterodactyl juice but can't find any more. We didn't have carto tanks, we had juice boxes! We had to walk 5 miles for a NicoStick, and drip uphill (but back in those days we only had one drip per bottle so it was called "Dropping"... Wait... Was that something else?)

 

[Liv2Ski]

Wonderful conversations! People sharing their opinions and their love for certain devices and everyone being ever so civil

The wonderful thing about the twist is it's ego-ie-ness and its great gateway-ie-ness to vv. It is with out a doubt my recommendation for the newly entered.

I am for the first time enjoying dripping because of my fear of juice mouth from the PTB days.. thanks to drip tips and decent atty's ( like the ever noob friendly brigeless ones ) I am curious again about it.

Plus with a possible bottom feeder in the works, I need to get my head around this stuff and I appreciate the open dialog everyone is having on the subject.

Also no matter how many VV/VW mods one has there is always a place in the vaping arsenal for eGo/Riva type batts. There are times when I just do not want to have a $200+ MOD in my hand like when mowing the lawn, skiing, fishing etc. Much easier to donate a $20-25 battery to the lake than a expensive MOD. Paired with a LR carto/atty those batts still do a good job when you don't want to risk a high end MOD.

 

[vise]

We get so spoiled, don't we? I remember when I first got my eGos, how excited and amazed I was. Now using an eGo seems like taking a step into the stone ages. Have we become too snobby? I don't know. It is strange though.

I totally agree with you that we all have our preferences when it comes to hardware. For me its a GGTS all day, all the time. Anything else seems like it is a toy, but the GG is the tool to get the job done imo.

 

[NoizMaker]

I totally agree with you that we all have our preferences when it comes to hardware. For me its a GGTS all day, all the time. Anything else seems like it is a toy, but the GG is the tool to get the job done imo.

I think I would love the GGTS just because of how compatible it is with nearly any battery out there. Un-regulated or not, it is still a slick device. What batt/ atty/carto setup do you use?

 

[vise]

I think I would love the GGTS just because of how compatible it is with nearly any battery out there. Un-regulated or not, it is still a slick device. What batt/ atty/carto setup do you use?

Yes, I don't think there is a battery made that won't fit in this bad boy! In one I am running 2X14500 for a total of 6.2 volts with a 3 ohm Dual Coil carto. In my other one I'm using an 18350 battery with the top from a GG Stealth and have a 1.7 ohm single coil cart with a Phiniac Tank. I'm waiting patiently to get my hands on another top tube section so I can complete my third GGTS, but ever since Daniel stopped carrying the GG line, the parts are even more increasingly difficult to get!

 

[NoizMaker]

Yes, I don't think there is a battery made that won't fit in this bad boy! In one I am running 2X14500 for a total of 6.2 volts with a 3 ohm Dual Coil carto. In my other one I'm using an 18350 battery with the top from a GG Stealth and have a 1.7 ohm single coil cart with a Phiniac Tank. I'm waiting patiently to get my hands on another top tube section so I can complete my third GGTS, but ever since Daniel stopped carrying the GG line, the parts are even more increasingly difficult to get!

Yep! The only battery I can think of that might not work (not that I'd truly know since I have never used one) is a 26650. That is just an educated guess because the GGTS far precedes the invention of the Helix, which really introduced the 26650. to the vaping world and is still very uncommon to be used, so no loss either way, lol. Sorry to gear GR doesn't deal with the GG anymore. That device is well known for being pricey but reliable. Heck, carto tanks were well preceded by the AFS/ UFS system and "punching" a carto was preceded by 901's that were commonly used in a UFS. So we technically have the GG to thank for a lot of what we commonly use now.

 

[kingcobra]

I've been using my Darwin exclusively for 10 months now, and I don't even own anything else. My backup is a couple of 510 batteries that I hope I never have to use.

If you are vaping over 11 watts on the thing that might have killed it. I can't imagine how people vape that hot The highest I've gone is 8.4 and that ended up making me cough my lungs out Dripping probably isn't a good idea either as if you ever get any juice in the thing that's not good.

I've thought of getting a provari as a backup but I'd hate to have to use the thing, I guess I am a bit of a snob here, as with any other device I'd wonder about what wattage this is. I guess you could find a voltage you like but one of the things that people don't mention much is that there is quite a variation among different voltage settings, and I can much more finely tune my vape by 0.10 watts than 0.10 volts. That's the snob coming out again

 

[NoizMaker]

I've been using my Darwin exclusively for 10 months now, and I don't even own anything else. My backup is a couple of 510 batteries that I hope I never have to use.

If you are vaping over 11 watts on the thing that might have killed it. I can't imagine how people vape that hot The highest I've gone is 8.4 and that ended up making me cough my lungs out Dripping probably isn't a good idea either as if you ever get any juice in the thing that's not good.

I've thought of getting a provari as a backup but I'd hate to have to use the thing, I guess I am a bit of a snob here, as with any other device I'd wonder about what wattage this is. I guess you could find a voltage you like but one of the things that people don't mention much is that there is quite a variation among different voltage settings, and I can much more finely tune my vape by 0.10 watts than 0.10 volts. That's the snob coming out again

I can't really see how high wattage vaping could have damaged my darwin.. It is designed for that wattage so I assume it would be able to handle it. I personally can't go below 9 watts without feeling like I am just inhaling air with zero TH.

As for the dripping, I can see your point about that. Juice can easily get into the control arm or inside the dial, but I was very cautious and diligent with my dripping. I sadly had no choice BUT to drip since I had given my DCT system and all my DCT cartos to the new owner of my old lavatube.

When I get my Darwin back I will probably use an eGo cone on an eGo thread adapter to prevent any leakage at all just in case as dripping has regained its grasp on me.

Needless to say, the Darwin is still my fav device, it's just agonizing to be without it and dripping on an eGo until then is all. It's worth it though since I am getting this Darwin 100% free now that it has had complications like this.

 

[Chinner]

The wattage won't kill it. I run mine all day every day at 12.7 with a LR dual coil mega with no issues at all.

Also the arm assembly in the newer units are sealed up, the only real way to get juice in it is through the wattage adjustment dial.

 

[NoizMaker]

YES! I finally have my Darwin back and also received an eGo-C Twist battery from a good friend for a just in case scenario if my Darwin breaks again in the future. It's literally like Christmas in July!

 

[NoizMaker]

Okay... I think for the first time ever my head is literally about to explode...

I got my Darwin back 2 days ago and purposely didn't use it until I bought some more hardware to keep it safe... Well it doesn't seem to matter that I bought the cone and 510 to eGo adapter to act as a cheap drip shield at all because the exact same thing happened.

Essentially, I am mid vape and the screen started to flicker intermittently for like 2 seconds and then nothing. Goodbye Darwin experience... and in less than 6 hours of use with 0 chance for leaks to be to blame... I'm frustrated to say the least.

I love the vape the Darwin gives, but I don't enjoy sending my Darwin to be repaired to only have it malfunction mere hours after using it again.

I have contacted Brandon to see what we can do, because I am quite honestly feeling quite disappointed. I want to keep loving the Darwin, I really do.

 

[drac]

Sorry to hear about all the Darwin problems. I had a carto tank go bad on me overnight while on one of our Darwin's. In the morning I found it covered in Jokesmoke. Wiped it off and worked like a champ. I use a closed 510 to 510 adapter then a 510 battery extender on all the mods I have. I then go to Home Depot and get a few washers that just fit the extender. Works great as a drip shield. Hope they take care of you at Evolve. Anything can go wrong but it is how they look after you that counts. Good Luck Sorry if any typo's We just got 2 new kittens (7weeks) and the laptop screen is a magnet to them.
Drac

 

[NoizMaker]

Well, I have to say I believe that Evolv does have their act together, as I know so many others who enjoy and use their Darwins daily without mishap. I think that because this issue seems to develop after a couple hours of heavy use (mostly because I am such a heavy vaper these days) it is understandable that it had issues again after they fixed it and tested it. Things such as this are plausible to slip under the radar.

That being said, if my Darwin does happen to experience issues again when I receive it I will probably chuck it in a drawer and buy a Provari and/or Saber Touch VV, a huge stock of batts and a new charger.

 

[martinc]

mmmm....

adjustable from 3 to 6V and 3 to 15W independently,will tell you if the atty is not right for your selection (among other things)....rings a bell?

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