E-cig ban strategy

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joeyd

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Newbie here but have read some of the articles regarding banning of e-cigs.

Since I am limited to where I can post as a new user, I opted to start this thread to discuss what I think is the best strategy to confront the bans as well as to keep the resources of time and money to a minimum.

To me, it seems that whenever a city or town wants to ban something, they cherry-pick a study (usually by grant or govt agency) to depict the issue as dangerous to the public. At this point, it becomes "the bible" and the ban is pushed through the councils, assembly, senate etc. to get the job done.

There really is no effective way to stop this scenario by fighting the "study". People can petition, write/call their representatives, march or whatever to no avail. As as example, see the global warming debate.

Therefore, my feeling is that instead of trying to disprove the FDA or any other 'study', we should simply demand that if e-cigs are banned, so too will all fog machines used in the entertainment industry. Since the fog machines use amounts of glycol millions of times the dosage used in an e-cig, the fog machines shouldn't be allowed as they are, based on amounts used, millions of times more dangerous to the public based on the "study".

I feel this is a much more effective strategy. The lawmakers would have to decide the issue based on the foggers which were already tested and used since the 50s. The entertainment industry would also join the fight since loss of the fog machines would lower the entertainment value of their productions.

Anyway, I wonder what others think of taking this course? I just don't feel trying to fight a trumped up study is going anywhere based on previous laws passed using the scenario I described initially.
 

CtryBoy

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You figure out a good strategy and we'll try to back you. I'm personally at a bit of a loss, cause it seems unless you have millions and a good lawyer, we're pretty much at their whim.

If ecigs are so bad, why not ban analogs too. Although that's playing their game, the fog machines is a great 'angle' to throw at them, but when it comes down to it the FDA is going to focus on the nic in the eliq. They cant stop me from making a flashlight mod, but they can make sure I dont have the right mg available to make these work.

This is probably why the gum/patch/etc never worked for me. The FDA made sure they were so safe they didnt work. Granted I dont want to get poisoned, but I'm not drinking my eliq just like I never ate an analog.

We are all concerned, but fortunately they FDA like all other government organizations moves slowly. I spent my first month looking over all the legal forums, fretted constantly signed every petition, then notice most of the worst was from a year ago and now we are in some kind of legal limbo. Anyone know where we are actually at and what we can really do, speak up so we can all take action.
 
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CtryBoy

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We could all visit american cancer societyand ask them to comment.

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Want to know the societies stance on electronic cigarettes (more accurately personal vaporizers)? Having been a 20+ year 2pk a day smoker, tried traditional cessesation methods with little/no success, I can personally attest to their effectiveness in reducing analog smoking. They are not perfect, some further study is warranted, but the FDA's push to ban them will leave me with little choice but to return to smoking 2pks a day of traditional cigarettes. Which does the society believe would be healthier for me? It should also be noted that if second hand vapor is an issue, the liquid used is the same that has been used in fog machines for years. Looking for your current stance on this issue so I can be more informed on this issue.

American Heart association

American Lung Association

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