Los angeles bans e-cigs

[Anjaffm]

But boorish behavior has nothing to do with bans on vaping. Never has, never will. It has to do with an Ideology of Control coupled with a "nanny state" mentality and money, that has gone way too far in this country.

precisely.
It is always a good idea to read up on the facts before jumping to conclusions.

 

[Katya]

But boorish behavior has nothing to do with bans on vaping. Never has, never will. It has to do with an Ideology of Control coupled with a "nanny state" mentality and money, that has gone way too far in this country.

"The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money."
― Alexis de Tocqueville

 

[Jonathan Rizo]

I gave the poster the "benefit of the doubt" and decided that when he vaped anywhere, he would do so courteously. Of course there are inconsiderate vapers just like there are inconsiderate cell phone users, music listeners, perfume wearers, etc. But boorish behavior has nothing to do with bans on vaping. Never has, never will. It has to do with an Ideology of Control coupled with a "nanny state" mentality and money, that has gone way too far in this country.

It's good to give people "the benefit of the doubt" I've just lost hope that people have common sense that's all. Meant no disrespect was just simply saying that instead of trying to rebel sometimes it's easier or better to just lay low than trying to brute force your way in or out of something. I vape openly, but remain mindful of those around me to avoid further negative looks towards vapers.



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[wutermelon]

its "public places" like parks, beaches, farmers markets, other outdoor venues where e cigs are not allowed. pretty much where regular cigs are not allowed

lol but when I smoked cigarettes No one cared if you smoked cigarettes at the park and beachs. As long as it was outside you can smoke. Probably because I live in vegas and not LA so idk how its like over there. Believe it or not vaping does give some type of second hand smoke because I was vaping in my car and my friends (non vaping freinds) would always get headaches/light headed. So thats why I think us vapers should not vape around non smokers/vapors and also blowing out a huge cloud in someones face is still disrespectful. Its like getting something thrown at you.

 

[AmandaD]

Believe it or not vaping does give some type of second hand smoke because I was vaping in my car and my friends (non vaping freinds) would always get headaches/light headed.

Interesting - I thought the Drexel study said there was negligible nicotine in the vapor?

I agree, of course, that blowing vapor in anyone's face would be inappropriate.

 

[wutermelon]

Interesting - I thought the Drexel study said there was negligible nicotine in the vapor?

I agree, of course, that blowing vapor in anyone's face would be inappropriate.

haha I'm just saying from my experience. They won't even step a foot in a vape shop . Could be the juice I'm vaping.

 

[Willing&Abel]

There are reasons the FDA still hasn't done a conducive study. One reason I'd like to belive is because there has been a study done on the chemical changes e-liquid goes through when vaporized. It is not just pg, vg, nicotine, and flavoring that you inhale. They are determining the safety of these new chemicals made by the vaporization of the liquid with a kanthal wire and other wicking materials. These studies were difficult to conduct even by scientists from the EU. Vaping isn't bad (I vape and don't consider it immediately harmful), but it isn't completely safe either. I'll post my sources when I flush my hard drives -.-

 

[hfornazier]

Yesterday I was thinking about it.

I was in a place where there were many people, 40 or so,I was behind everyone, the last, so I thought:

If 20 these people were smoking, you could only see the smoke:
If one of these people were using analog, how to know which?
(because the smell of the analog would be unbearable!)

So, I think that where the law forbids the analogic, the same should be applied to the e-cig.

Each one of us does not like certain things or behaviors of others and we want respect, then we must also respect people who do not like smoke, whether analogic or e-cig.

(Sorry my english....)

 

[Maestro]

Yesterday I was thinking about it.

I was in a place where there were many people, 40 or so,I was behind everyone, the last, so I thought:

If 20 these people were smoking, you could only see the smoke:
If one of these people were using analog, how to know which?
(because the smell of the analog would be unbearable!)

So, I think that where the law forbids the analogic, the same should be applied to the e-cig.

Each one of us does not like certain things or behaviors of others and we want respect, then we must also respect people who do not like smoke, whether analogic or e-cig.

(Sorry my english....)

Just because some people don't like something is no reason to ban it. I could irritate a hundred people a day, perfect legally, if I wanted to. Smoking bans were put in place for health reasons (supposedly), not to prevent irritating behavior. Common courtesy applies to a lot more than vaping.

 

[LDS714]

Yesterday I was thinking about it.

I was in a place where there were many people, 40 or so,I was behind everyone, the last, so I thought:

If 20 these people were smoking, you could only see the smoke:
If one of these people were using analog, how to know which?
(because the smell of the analog would be unbearable!)

So, I think that where the law forbids the analogic, the same should be applied to the e-cig.

Each one of us does not like certain things or behaviors of others and we want respect, then we must also respect people who do not like smoke, whether analogic or e-cig.

(Sorry my english....)

Sorry. Have to disagree.

If it does no harm then its the people complaining who should show respect.

 

[FearTX]

Dear citizens of the Republic of California,

You still live in a somewhat "free country" These politicians are the corrupt people that your, and your neighbors put in place. If you cannot vote them out of office the next term, all of them, you could still move.

I hear Florida or Colorado are nice places. Texas is a terrible place, do not move here.

 

[Bramble]

[...]Believe it or not vaping does give some type of second hand smoke because I was vaping in my car and my friends (non vaping freinds) would always get headaches/light headed. [...]

My brother was in an enclosed place with about 15 vapers all blowing massive clouds - he did say it gave him a headache after a while, but agreed it probably wasn't that it was vapor clouds but anything in that concentration in a small indoor place would do the same (perfumes, foods, whatever).

It is my severely asthmatic/allergic friends who are the happiest about me quitting smoking. The amount of vapor that comes from my little setup doesn't bother them in the least and they are fine with allowing it in their homes and cars. I'm going to suggest that unless you were fogging your friends to death in a car with some really noxious flavor and the windows up, their headaches are coming from imagining what's in the vapor rather than what really is.

 

[Admirals Atomizer]

Ordinances like this pass as a means for more government control over our lives and the feeling that there will be no political repercussion for the boards action. You get what you vote for, rallying is good to call attention to the subject but kicking the members of the board out at the ballot box when council elections come up sends a stronger message.

 

[sdennislee]

And again, bipartisan politics does exactly what it's designed to do - get people bickering among themselves while the elected officials go right on doing whatever the they want.

Let's keep our eye on the ball, folks...

Exactly, this not a I hate California/I love California thread. The time and energy here should be spent on preventing this kind of mindless legislation happening elsewhere and looking for avenues to repeal the LA ban.

 

[sdennislee]

Dear citizens of the Republic of California,

You still live in a somewhat "free country" These politicians are the corrupt people that your, and your neighbors put in place. If you cannot vote them out of office the next term, all of them, you could still move.

I hear Florida or Colorado are nice places. Texas is a terrible place, do not move here.

I love Texas politics, if you guys could fix the heat problem you have there I would visit more often.

 

[FearTX]

I love Texas politics, if you guys could fix the heat problem you have there I would visit more often.

I don't see it as a problem, I am used to it. I see it more as a beneficial deterrent.


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