I wouldn't suggest them personally. They're the ones that claim to add things like ...... and an unapproved weight loss drug to their juices, giving the FDA just another reason to attack e-cigs as a whole. The suppliers listed on ECF have all been scrutinized by the board moderators and are considered trustworthy. Also, if you deal with ECF approved suppliers and do have a problem that you feel is unsolvable, ECF has someone that will mediate.