Hey everyone, I've been vaping for about a month now, so im still relatively new. I've seen some dicussion about this and decided to do some research, the 2 correlations ive noticed with almost every story about an exploding e-cig, is either A) they used the wrong charger, or B) it was plugged into to something aside from the wall (laptop, gaming system, car etc.) Many members of this forum are very experienced and knowledgable (and not funded by the FDA or BT), so my question is: Are E-cig explosions a matter of bad luck, or being careless?
E-cig explosions. Bad luck or Carelessness?
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9.5 times out of 10 it is lack of knowledge and carelessness that causes this type of problem. People that are unwilling to educate themselves on the proper use and safety of batteries and resistance. Trying to save a buck by purchasing some "FIRE" branded batteries and charger then throwing a .0001 build on top expecting to blow rain makers.
There are a lot of cheap, poorly-made ego-style batteries out there. These seem to be the most prone to catching on fire while charging.
The other most common occurrence is with people using the wrong batteries in a mech mod, or vaping them at too high a current, particularly with mods that are not properly vented.
Having said this, the actual number of occurrences of either is very low, and comparable to the frequency of cellphone and laptop battery incidents (per device). It just gets major coverage every time it happens. Google "laptop fire" or "cellphone fire" and you'll see what I mean.
The other most common occurrence is with people using the wrong batteries in a mech mod, or vaping them at too high a current, particularly with mods that are not properly vented.
Having said this, the actual number of occurrences of either is very low, and comparable to the frequency of cellphone and laptop battery incidents (per device). It just gets major coverage every time it happens. Google "laptop fire" or "cellphone fire" and you'll see what I mean.
the manufacturers certainly can do more to help. Suppliers also.
It's like selling a .22 pistol and allowing the 45cal/wrong ammo to fit.
It's like selling a .22 pistol and allowing the 45cal/wrong ammo to fit.
Thanks for the relies so far everyone! I figured the chanes were low, i work in the auto industry and ive seen my fair share of things that are "safe" go catastrophically wrong. From what i can tell, if you have a bit of knowledge on how electronics/batteries, with a little common sense mixed in, e-cigs can be just as safe as any other rechargeable device. As usual, it seems that mainstream media is using scare tactics to try and prevent us from bettering our own health, and saving a bit of money at the same time.
1 of the biggest problems and it will cause some although not all of the problems is you get a 4.2V and a 5V charger for ego batteries which are what many noobs use. It is still mostly their fault for using the wrong charger but some of the blame must fall on the stupid manufacturers making 2 different systems for what looks like a unique solution to charging.
Most I've seen in the UK are down to people buying the cheapest they can find and either not bothering to make sure they are compatible or have no knowledge of what they just got into. It's like PC's people spend a lot of money on main components then skimp on the power supply mix laziness and tight fistedness and with ecigs it can be a recipe for disaster. I've been vaping heavily and safely for just over two years take the few hours it takes to be safe and there is very little risk but an element of risk is always present with electronics.
Batteries are the life force of your device in the vaping world. Some people just buy the cheapest battery and charger they can find. If they would do a little research and take the time to learn safety you would not have half battery horror stories. Good gear can be found at reasonable prices you just got to take the time to find it and be mindful of clones!!!
Full on Carelessness is the most common reason for explosion of batteries. Not knowing the power requirements for proper battery charging, and of course being cheap.
If you are not informed about charging requirements then you will without a doubt have issues with the ego style batteries. From what I have encountered with mod batteries the chargers are intuitive and check the charge level and shut down once the battery reaches 4.2v.
Also, with using non-regulated mods you need to pay close attention to the discharge current of the battery and make sure you don't go over what the battery can handle. Otherwise, you have a potential mini pipe bomb in your hands. If you build a coil that is pretty damn near a direct short it will burn or explode.
If you are not informed about charging requirements then you will without a doubt have issues with the ego style batteries. From what I have encountered with mod batteries the chargers are intuitive and check the charge level and shut down once the battery reaches 4.2v.
Also, with using non-regulated mods you need to pay close attention to the discharge current of the battery and make sure you don't go over what the battery can handle. Otherwise, you have a potential mini pipe bomb in your hands. If you build a coil that is pretty damn near a direct short it will burn or explode.
Taking shortcuts, improper training, overconfidence, neglecting safety procedures. Those are a few of the most common core causes for industrial accidents, and I think they can be applied to vaping as well.
Some of that stupidity is just unfortunate ignorance. A lot of people here didn't know squat about batteries until Bad had a little chat with them. B&Ms selling noobs dangerous setups, batteries coming in the mail with no instructions. Willful ignorance and stupidity are in a class all their own.
I know of people who carry batts in a pocket with keys and change.I tell them the danger and still dont get it,there are some really stupid being on this planet.
It's quite often a combination. There are people on this forum who post that they are using a build that exceeds the amp limit of their battery and they have been doing it for years without a problem, except for the occasional piece of their mod melting.
It's not like a switch where 30 amps is fine but 30.1 will burst into flames.
You can be so close that there is no problem but one time ou might wrap you coil ..02 ohms too low and if you are close enough and low enough it will cause a problem.
A tiny crack in the coil might lower the resistance by .1 and if I am vaping 20 amps on a 30 amp battery no problem but if I am at 30 amps on a 30 amp battery it might be a problem.
The short hits I take while vaping are not a problem but when the button gets pushed while the mod is in my pocket is not good. I should have used the locking ring.
How many people know that the new high wattage mods have batteries in series? How many people know the additional problems associated with series batteries?
It's not like a switch where 30 amps is fine but 30.1 will burst into flames.
You can be so close that there is no problem but one time ou might wrap you coil ..02 ohms too low and if you are close enough and low enough it will cause a problem.
A tiny crack in the coil might lower the resistance by .1 and if I am vaping 20 amps on a 30 amp battery no problem but if I am at 30 amps on a 30 amp battery it might be a problem.
The short hits I take while vaping are not a problem but when the button gets pushed while the mod is in my pocket is not good. I should have used the locking ring.
How many people know that the new high wattage mods have batteries in series? How many people know the additional problems associated with series batteries?
Ironically, building my first PC was the catalyst that pushed me to always make sure that power requirements and safety measurements are met or exceeded preferably... Letting the magic smoke out of a $1200 build PC because of a $35 PSU will have a tendency to do that.
Most of the exploding ecig accidents through the years have been because of human error. Sometimes dues to carelessness or stupidity but also many times due to simply lacking safety knowledge. We should never overlook the fact that there have been ego accidents that happened purely because of equipment failures which is why safety measures when charging is so important.
I really don't know, but I would assume it's due to carelessness. It can definitely be prevented.
Everyone always talks about sub ohming and batteries blowing up and I have never heard once about anyone getting hurt other than from eGo batteries being plugged in wrong\or wrong charger ect. Someone direct me to see a news article where someone was hurt by an exploding mod?
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