e-cig haters?
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Ya most of the responses were from people I care nothing about and funny enough I'm clearing out my "friends" right now
I have no problems like that on social sites because my profiles are as locked down as possible. My friends and family also know that if they start that, they are gone. Bias disclaimer: I don't particularly care for Myspace or Facebook, and often fail to see the absolute fascination some people have with it.
For a similar situation: Only one person at work (Not a co-worker, someone from another office.) smirked and snidely said something to the effect of: 'Oh so I guess you think that you quit now, huh?' When I was vaping on my way inside. I smirked back informing him that I started vaping because I was tired of coughing up blood from smoking, and knew I couldn't go cold turkey. The look on his face was priceless. He stifled real quick. He got about halfway through asking if it was working when I interrupted him. I thanked him for his "concern," let him know that 'Eau de Ashtray' cologne he was rocking was great, and walked away.
Generally I keep to myself or make an effort to educate people, but he just really ...... me off with his tone that morning. To hell with the rest that are bent on tearing others down for any or no reason what-so-ever.
I have gotten the comment from others that vaping is worse than analogs in their opinion/based on whatever lack of fact, but both people weren't rude at all. I don't consider that e-cig hate, as much a lack of research and knowledge. I don't get into the argument with them. I only point those types in the direction of where I have done my research so they can re-evaluate their stance without the topic becoming contentious.
I have had few very negative complaints. One guy in a club turned to me and said very loudly " i know what you're doing, and it's POISONING me!"
Found him later and explained the test that found a few carcinogens in a few samples of Chinese juice several years ago was isolated and that I only vaped American made juice that was clean. He listened and apologized for the comment.
Had a friend who does not smoke cigs but is quite an "herbal" smoker tell me that I really should just stop using that thing. When I said that when she quits so would I she shut up pretty quickly.
Found him later and explained the test that found a few carcinogens in a few samples of Chinese juice several years ago was isolated and that I only vaped American made juice that was clean. He listened and apologized for the comment.
Had a friend who does not smoke cigs but is quite an "herbal" smoker tell me that I really should just stop using that thing. When I said that when she quits so would I she shut up pretty quickly.
Hygro ---- I was so glad to see your comment on people's fascination with the social sites. Seems like a huge insecurity issue to me. Do you REALLY need to be connected to the world 24/7? And let everyone know where you are and what you are doing every minute of the day? I think it's all nuts. I made the mistake of starting a Facebook acct. to try and find my estranged daughter. Well, next thing I know I have about 50 friend requests. Then I start reading about all the problems with privacy and did the same you did.....locked it down tight. I won't even post my own picture.... it's in enough Post Offices..... just kidding.
I think you made a great point. People are so fascinated with their social networking that they forget to look outside, or even go outside. There are many other things to do than just sit and babble you time away. Take a walk, listen to Mother Nature, anything is better than wasting time on those sites. I see kids in the store with their smart phones and just wonder what kind of grades they pull. Or how well they can write a sentence. To me, these sites ruin human interaction and dumb us down big time.
Sorry for ranting, but as you can probably tell, it's one of my "hot button" issues.....
I think you made a great point. People are so fascinated with their social networking that they forget to look outside, or even go outside. There are many other things to do than just sit and babble you time away. Take a walk, listen to Mother Nature, anything is better than wasting time on those sites. I see kids in the store with their smart phones and just wonder what kind of grades they pull. Or how well they can write a sentence. To me, these sites ruin human interaction and dumb us down big time.
Sorry for ranting, but as you can probably tell, it's one of my "hot button" issues.....
I agree that most of the negative comments are from smokers and ex-smokers. A friend of my DH called him today and when my DH asked about how his last "quit" was going, the friend said he was back to smoking, so my DH asked "why don't you just get an e-cig like my wife did?" The reply was "Oh, I just read that 'they' think they aren't safe." I went into a little tantrum when I heard about it! I could almost understand a non-smoker saying something this ignorant, but not someone who currently smokes tobacco!
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On the flip side, most people are curious, and respond positively (everyone knows a smoker) and think it's great that it helps people cut down or stop smoking completely.
I have a smoker BIL who listened to my whole spiel on the e-cig soapbox one day, and the next time I saw him he actually asked me if I was STILL SMOKING THAT FAKE THING (with a major attitude) as I vaped way. I said "no, I'm VAPING a REAL electronic cigarette.....are you still smoking tobacco? ...as he smoked away.
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On the flip side, most people are curious, and respond positively (everyone knows a smoker) and think it's great that it helps people cut down or stop smoking completely.
I have a smoker BIL who listened to my whole spiel on the e-cig soapbox one day, and the next time I saw him he actually asked me if I was STILL SMOKING THAT FAKE THING (with a major attitude) as I vaped way. I said "no, I'm VAPING a REAL electronic cigarette.....are you still smoking tobacco? ...as he smoked away.
I've had both sides. Most of my peers get it after I explain it to them. A few of them even wanted to try it. I've only been vaping 2 weeks and have had 2 other converts because of me. I chalk up the negative people to simple ignorance. If they still won't believe me I tell them to fornicate far afield
My pain mgt. doc actually asked me to write up a little handout for her to give to pts. who were trying to quit smoking. Last visit, I took my PV in with me and casually took it out of my pocket while we were talking and took a puff. I made sure to have a very sweet smelling juice in it for the visit. She looked at me with a startled expression and then said " wow... that smells great... what is it?" and that got the ball rolling. I'd say the visit went 20 minutes longer as I explained to her how they worked and that you were only taking in nicotine and not the other chemicals in tobacco smoke. That really impressed her. I then went on to explain how I was cutting down the nicotine and would be nicotine free shortly. (I'm due for a surgery and the surgeon will not do the procedure until I'm nicotine free for a good 4 months at least) Told her I could still have the enjoyment of "smoking" but with no nicotine.
Next thing I know, I'm writing a flier for her to hand out to pts. Thought that was one little victory in the battle. Most docs I see just dismiss PV's without even considering that they might work, and they are supposed to be intelligent. Very closed minds in the medical community even though they know from past experience that all of the current methods or meds have a very poor success rate. Score one for PV's!!!!!
Next thing I know, I'm writing a flier for her to hand out to pts. Thought that was one little victory in the battle. Most docs I see just dismiss PV's without even considering that they might work, and they are supposed to be intelligent. Very closed minds in the medical community even though they know from past experience that all of the current methods or meds have a very poor success rate. Score one for PV's!!!!!
A lot of the negative reaction is probably just a knee jerk response to the word "cigarette", whether it's preceded by "e-" or not. I wish they weren't called e-cigs, actually, I think that's part of why some folks are freaking out about them.
That is a very good point. It's so easy to say "e-cig" rather than "personal vaporizer"..... but then you would have to explain what a PV is. Guess either way you have to explain to try and get peeps to understand the concept. Like anything new, there is going to be skepticism. I'm just still amazed at how physicians are so closed minded about it.... I'd think they would be jumping up and down..... finally a way to get their pts. off of butts. Even if the pt just stayed on nic only, it's is still a huge improvement over smoking. A huge paradigm shift is needed and I hope it comes very soon. Anything remotely associated with smoking is rapidly dismissed. That is very sad to me.
But one has to stop and think of the powerful lobbies we are up against..... pharmaceutical, AMA, FDA, etc. It's a long, powerful list. We have a lot of work ahead of us to get people educated to understand what PV's are and how they can improve the quality of life for so many people. And, many people just don't want the hassle of playing around with a PV..... you do have to admit that it's much easier to pull out a .... and light it. This is both a new way of ingesting nicotine and a hobby for many. It takes time and we are fighting the clock. It's fourth and goal with 1 second on the clock so to speak.
But one has to stop and think of the powerful lobbies we are up against..... pharmaceutical, AMA, FDA, etc. It's a long, powerful list. We have a lot of work ahead of us to get people educated to understand what PV's are and how they can improve the quality of life for so many people. And, many people just don't want the hassle of playing around with a PV..... you do have to admit that it's much easier to pull out a .... and light it. This is both a new way of ingesting nicotine and a hobby for many. It takes time and we are fighting the clock. It's fourth and goal with 1 second on the clock so to speak.
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2 months as of sunday the 26th without cigs. I think the key to it is "REALLY needing to quit, and that can mean health reasons, financial reasons, even "guilt" all the above for me.. 35 year smoker, 2pk a day for probably 10 or more years! Yah ecigs!
I just call mine a respiratory inhaler and the 'busybodies' just shut up and go away embarrassed.
Here's what bothers me. Why announce it to anyone? It is simply a change from Marlboros to e cigs. Why is that anyone's business? I have found that if I announce that I am going on a diet, I fail. Too many people asking how it is going. If I keep it to myself and am successful, then a few months later; people say, "wow, you have lost a ton of weight." I say, yes, I have, and go on my way. It is for myself that I choose to lose weight or switch to e cigs. Why the big deal? You only open yourself to criticism by making it public.
These are the "testimonials" needed to get peoples attention, if they can keep an open mind. Congratulations to you, Vapu, for your success. It's a great feeling to feel free from the analogs. And the benefits just keep on piling up. I can not get over the changes in my body in the short time I've been vaping. It truly amazes me each day. I'll occasionally light an analog just as a test to see how I'm doing and the longer I've vaped, the worse that .... tastes to me. I can't believe I did that to myself for so many years and feel stupid for starting in the first place..... but it was so cool to smoke......What a great excuse to kill yourself.
Unfortunately, it is public now thanks to the FDA and their heavy handed tactics. I agree with your logic, Sherid. You set yourself up for failure, just like making that New Year Eve resolution. It would be nice if we could still go about this quietly, but I am afraid the cat is out of the bag so to speak.
That may be true from but it's been 10 days and I never even considered quitting lol. I just got the PV because I thought it would be cheaper and fun!
Very true, but how are you to interest people if you dont say "hey i quit smoking doing THIS". I WISH someone would have offered their experience with PVs to me 5 years ago...
I disagree completely. I think the more attention PV get the better! Eventually the truth will come out and I believe PV are a healthier and much better alternative to analogs. I think it's selfish for us to try to keep this "secret" to ourselves
First, grats on quitting smoking.
Second, to hell with the haters. They don't understand and it's not your job to correct them. But you can and should continue to comment on the changes that occurred once you got off analogs. Atste returning, breathing better, etc.
Lastly, HEY you're from Minneapolis!!!! Check out Twin Cities/Minnesota Vapers. We're planning a meet up.
My best friend of 40+ years, a tobacco smoker, was irritated by my initial enthusiasm. He feels it is more of a pacifier for adults; Accordingly, I've learned to never say anything about eCigs. He's even a Rush Limbaugh follower and wasn't impressed with Rush's vaping.
I need to remember that when I got a cell phone over 20 years ago, he hated that and said he would Never consider being available at all times to anyone. About 5 years ago he finally got one, (his wife insisted) and now he lives on it. I can only hope he doesn't wait another 15 years to try breaking free from tobacco.
I need to remember that when I got a cell phone over 20 years ago, he hated that and said he would Never consider being available at all times to anyone. About 5 years ago he finally got one, (his wife insisted) and now he lives on it. I can only hope he doesn't wait another 15 years to try breaking free from tobacco.
I'd respond with "enjoy your cancer" and delete them. I'm sick of people who really are nothing but professional haters. Blank them.
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