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frogbmth

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The governments here are ......ed but not as corrupt as in the USA. Stop smoking campaigns are validated by the strain put on the NHS by smokers, but we know that smokers more than pay for their medical treatment through all the extra taxes they paid getting the diseases.

What would be better is if the NHS stopped spending billions on crap NRT products, fattening the pockets of the parhma companies, and looked more into getting smokers onto safer, harm reduction alternatives. There also could be legislation to stop the tobacco giants from putting extra addictive and harmful chemicals into the cigarettes. There arent many other industries where you could get away with adding all the deadly addictive chemicals you like without anybody questioning you.

We do not follow the USA. We havent banned breakfast cereals simply because they say they are heart healthy, we haven't banned red jelly babies, Bisphenol-A was banned in the USA but we didnt bat an eyelid, hell we even pump our tap water full of carcinogens.
 

deewal

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I've posted this before but i'll post it again here.

My Grandfather smoked from the age of 17 on The Somme.
He died at the age of 79 of Liver Disease. (He was an Alcoholic)
My Grandmother who lived with him and breathed the same smoke filled air
but did not smoke herself or drink died of Bowel Cancer at the Age of 84.
Their son (My father) Smoked from the age of 18 (Capstan Full Strength and Senior Service...Very strong)
He died of Liver Disease at the age of 85. (He was also an Alcoholic)
My Mother who lived with him and breathed the same smoke filled air and also worked in Ogdens Tobacco Factory in Liverpool
where most workers smoked as they got Tobacco half price did Not smoke herself all her life.
She died at the age of 86 of old age.
Here are four people of my family who have all either smoked directly or smoked second hand smoke for most of their lives.
Tobacco did not kill any of them and they lived long lives.
Strange that is'nt it?
 

frogbmth

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Hi Deewal

It's not that surprising, the likelihood of suvival beyond age 70 is 88% for non smokers and 71% for life long smokers. There are big genetic links so it's common for whole families of smokers to survive until later life. We are brainwashed by stats, those that are not so convenient or compelling are not reported on the whole.
 

Crash

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Hi Deewal

It's not that surprising, the likelihood of suvival beyond age 70 is 88% for non smokers and 71% for life long smokers. There are big genetic links so it's common for whole families of smokers to survive until later life. We are brainwashed by stats, those that are not so convenient or compelling are not reported on the whole.

I find it a bit odd how the government or some of these smoking Nazi groups fail to mention stats like these.
 

max_muesli

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Yes, I've a similar tale of a family who include life long smokers who go on to old age despite working with toxic substances (chlorine, mercury, caustic soda, mustard gas, phosgene etc) - my grandad was even gassed in WW1 and came home with dysentry.

In fact when people start going on about the cost of smokers to the NHS I sometimes joke that I deserve a refund on genetic grounds.

I'd settle with my own room in a decent pub.
 
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