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(I need a 10 foot pole for this).
OK. 1st off... atomizers... anywhere from a month to who knows.... 6 months. That's assuming you're over the learning curve. Also, higher voltages are harder on atomizers. LR's don't last as long (figure < month in many cases).
e-cigs... well, it depends on make/model. A small 808 or 510 will last a few months, but die fairly quickly since you have to recharge it a lot, and vaping is hard on the real small batteries. An eGo type unit... say 6 months or more. Of course, YMMV since using LR on eGo is a bit more stressful on the battery. Also, I have some mods with 14500 batteries, and those batteries are nearly a year old and going strong...<knock on wood> but I rotate 3 sets.
Does this help?
Remember... accidents, shorts, juice getting in em, charger failures, dropping in rain puddles, etc. all shorten the life so BACKUPS BACKUPS BACKUPS SPARES SPARES SPARES. Then when you go into your spare stash, you can order more and not get stuck.
Good luck!
P.S. You edited. Cheater! OK... average yearly cost .... I can't tell you, or even begin a guess, without knowing your juice vendor, your daily consumption, and your devices. Then maybe a ballpark.
I can tell you for me, but 1) I'm experienced and don't trash hardware and 2) I DIY all my own juice. So really, you'll have to compute based on your own research. It may be a bit of cash outlay at 1st, but can pay for itself, or at least break even for most smokers turned vapers. Again, that varies depending on cig prices and consumption.
OK. 1st off... atomizers... anywhere from a month to who knows.... 6 months. That's assuming you're over the learning curve. Also, higher voltages are harder on atomizers. LR's don't last as long (figure < month in many cases).
e-cigs... well, it depends on make/model. A small 808 or 510 will last a few months, but die fairly quickly since you have to recharge it a lot, and vaping is hard on the real small batteries. An eGo type unit... say 6 months or more. Of course, YMMV since using LR on eGo is a bit more stressful on the battery. Also, I have some mods with 14500 batteries, and those batteries are nearly a year old and going strong...<knock on wood> but I rotate 3 sets.
Does this help?
Remember... accidents, shorts, juice getting in em, charger failures, dropping in rain puddles, etc. all shorten the life so BACKUPS BACKUPS BACKUPS SPARES SPARES SPARES. Then when you go into your spare stash, you can order more and not get stuck.
Good luck!
P.S. You edited. Cheater! OK... average yearly cost .... I can't tell you, or even begin a guess, without knowing your juice vendor, your daily consumption, and your devices. Then maybe a ballpark.
I can tell you for me, but 1) I'm experienced and don't trash hardware and 2) I DIY all my own juice. So really, you'll have to compute based on your own research. It may be a bit of cash outlay at 1st, but can pay for itself, or at least break even for most smokers turned vapers. Again, that varies depending on cig prices and consumption.
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Well, I've been vaping KR808D-1 with CE2 R4 cartomizers every day for 4 months and both batteries from starter kit are still in good condition. I've even brought one to live after it died, required some soldering skills though 
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.Thanks Attypops.
That Does Help. I appreciate you taking the time to answer my question (even with the 10 ft pole hahaha). I am new to this whole ecig thing so I am asking the dumb questions. I was thinking that the only recurring cost would be the Juice/ Cartridges. I have ordered an ego t and should be expecting it within the next few day's. So I'm guessing I'll need to get whole new "hardware" maybe every 90 day's or so? Anyway it's probably a lot cheaper than analogs (especially in NYC)
Again I appreciate your response.
aland
ok ill bite on the yearly cost....lol
well if you never buy a mod and just stick with starter style e-cigs well be generouse and say you will need only 8 bats to last a year...at about 10$ a bat=80$, if you use attys and are awesome at upkeep well say you use on a month at 7$ and atty=84, now juice not for sure where u get it or how picky you are but lets be on the safe side and say 15$ for 30ml and that last you 10 days=roughly 500$ so 700 a year???
well if you never buy a mod and just stick with starter style e-cigs well be generouse and say you will need only 8 bats to last a year...at about 10$ a bat=80$, if you use attys and are awesome at upkeep well say you use on a month at 7$ and atty=84, now juice not for sure where u get it or how picky you are but lets be on the safe side and say 15$ for 30ml and that last you 10 days=roughly 500$ so 700 a year???
I'm in Jersey, so smokes are high priced, although not as bad as NYC...
I've amassed a collection of attys and cartos on sale and DIY my own
juice. My costs are about 1/2 what I spent on 1 1/2 pad habit.
At NYC prices you could come in at 1/3 the cost, if you don't go crazy buying
every new mod or carto. Wait for a good 25% to 50% off sale to stock up.
And always look for coupons
I've amassed a collection of attys and cartos on sale and DIY my own
juice. My costs are about 1/2 what I spent on 1 1/2 pad habit.
At NYC prices you could come in at 1/3 the cost, if you don't go crazy buying
every new mod or carto. Wait for a good 25% to 50% off sale to stock up.
And always look for coupons
It is definitely cheaper than analogs, especially if you can avoid the desire that most of us have to keep trying other devices. I would be quite surprised if you have to replace the eGo batteries in 90 days. I have eGo batts that are going on two years. Their in rotation with other devices, of course, but they've easily seen an average of 6 months to a year's worth of use. And that's with LR atties. Buying an extra kit or at least a spare battery or two is still a good idea, though.
Atomizers are a different story. Plan on getting a couple of weeks out of them and if they last a month or so you'll be even happier. I typically get a month or more out of an LR atty, but I have had them fail inside of a week, too. Generally after a month of use, the performance will diminish to a point that you'll want to replace them.
Atomizers are a different story. Plan on getting a couple of weeks out of them and if they last a month or so you'll be even happier. I typically get a month or more out of an LR atty, but I have had them fail inside of a week, too. Generally after a month of use, the performance will diminish to a point that you'll want to replace them.
Webbcm127,
Thanks for your reply / bite (and doing the math) Just wanted to know how often I would need to re-order. In NYC I would spend $ 700 in 2 months in cigs. Even if you said $1000 dollars I will still give these ecigs a try . I have read all the success stories and I'm looking forward to being one soon.
The ego should last more than 90 days, but it's a good way to conservatively estimate your budget, since you are likely to be buying a few extra juices, maybe other hardware to start with. There are some people <looks around at a few forum friends> that are addicted to buying different juice flavors, trying every new type of atomizer and carto, and dreaming of the next mod. lol.
It's not a dumb question at all....in fact, it's a very wise question to ask when looking at this whole thing, but it a very hard one to answer since personal preferences vary so widely, as do personal budgets.
If budget is a major motivation, look at some simple DIY juice after about a month or so of experience. Otherwise, look at options for cartos, atomizers, juice vendors, spare chargers.....that's the whole issue with vaping... too many options.
EDIT: I just saw your budget above. We're all posting at the same time. lol. You should be fine. Just be patient with the learning curve. Remember that you don't have to switch all at once if you don't want to. Set yourself up to succeed. Try it out and make sure it is working for you, then toss the cigs (if you want) in the best way that works for you.
Good Luck!
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As AttyPops pointed out, the smaller batteries just don't last as long. In fact, all of the "proprietary" batteries have about a 200 recharge limit. But another issue is the more the battery is recharged, the shorter the time it holds a charge. They slowly start dieing from the first use.
For a more cost effective and longer lasting battery but in the same category as the eGo, I would suggest you look at the E-Power. The batteries cost about $4-$5 instead of the $20 for eGo batteries plus the E-Power batteries are 1050 mAh and are NOT proprietary so you can buy them many places:
e-Power
Electronic Cigarette - Starter Kits - E-Power
For a more cost effective and longer lasting battery but in the same category as the eGo, I would suggest you look at the E-Power. The batteries cost about $4-$5 instead of the $20 for eGo batteries plus the E-Power batteries are 1050 mAh and are NOT proprietary so you can buy them many places:
e-Power
Electronic Cigarette - Starter Kits - E-Power
Your mileage may vary ... a lot.
On my 510 unit, I have been using and rotating the same 3 mega batteries for 8 months. On my 808 unit, I have been rotating the same three XL batteries for a similar time frame. All are manual units and none have experienced failure. At the same time, I have never run them to the point that they insist on being charged, etc. Also, I only vape about 1.5-2 ml of juice daily. On my 808 unit I use cartomizers exclusively. On the 510 unit I use both the regular and tank atomizers. I have two of each type of atomizer and have never had to replace one. But I keep my cartridges topped off and don't use juices with much gunk in them. I make my own juices and keep the flavoring components low.
So assume all of my stuff failed after 12 months.
1 mega PCC, 3 mega batteries, 4 atomizers, 10 regular carts and 10 tank carts. Total cost: $100 +/-
1 XL PCC, 3 XL batteries. Total cost: $73 +/-
There are expendable supplies. Cartomizers for the 808 units, blue foam (I use the blue foam mod) for the 510 cartridges and e-liquid.
I go through 2 cartomizers a week at an average cost of $3 each. So 2*3*52 = $312
The cost of the blue foam is minuscule. Figure it at $10/year.
I make my own e-juice mostly. Every once in a while if someone has a sale I'll try theirs, but 90% of the e-liquid I use I mix myself. Getting the stuff for this initially can be a bit expensive -- I have both pg and vg based nicotine, pg, vg, and an assortment of flavorings from Perfumer's Apprentice, Blue Mist and Flavour Art. I suspect I've spent about $200 on all this stuff, but it's enough to last me maybe 3 years. So figure I spend $70/year on e-juice but also spend another $50 on trying out what other people have mixed up -- so $120.
So worst-case-scenario (assuming all equipment fails annually), my annual expense is $100+$73+$312+$10+$120 or $615/year
More realistically, just talking necessities, you can figure about half the equipment fails, I stop using disposable cartomizers and stop sampling other people's e-juice and the amount plummets to $50+$36+$10+$70 or $166/year Just for fun throw in a few miscellaneous supplies so you can round up to $200.
So you can quite feasibly vape for $200/year if you make your own juice and assume half your gear fails. So far, in 8 months, I have had zero equipment failures. But I baby my gear.
Your cost will likely end up being somewhere in between $200 and $800. I know that's a wide range. But maybe you'll have to try out a couple of different types of e-cig, maybe you'll want a "mod." Maybe you'll buy all your e-juice pre-made or just buy pre-filled cartomizers or whatnot.
I'd saw all in all I spend around $500/year; but your mileage will vary from mine. Hope this helps!
On my 510 unit, I have been using and rotating the same 3 mega batteries for 8 months. On my 808 unit, I have been rotating the same three XL batteries for a similar time frame. All are manual units and none have experienced failure. At the same time, I have never run them to the point that they insist on being charged, etc. Also, I only vape about 1.5-2 ml of juice daily. On my 808 unit I use cartomizers exclusively. On the 510 unit I use both the regular and tank atomizers. I have two of each type of atomizer and have never had to replace one. But I keep my cartridges topped off and don't use juices with much gunk in them. I make my own juices and keep the flavoring components low.
So assume all of my stuff failed after 12 months.
1 mega PCC, 3 mega batteries, 4 atomizers, 10 regular carts and 10 tank carts. Total cost: $100 +/-
1 XL PCC, 3 XL batteries. Total cost: $73 +/-
There are expendable supplies. Cartomizers for the 808 units, blue foam (I use the blue foam mod) for the 510 cartridges and e-liquid.
I go through 2 cartomizers a week at an average cost of $3 each. So 2*3*52 = $312
The cost of the blue foam is minuscule. Figure it at $10/year.
I make my own e-juice mostly. Every once in a while if someone has a sale I'll try theirs, but 90% of the e-liquid I use I mix myself. Getting the stuff for this initially can be a bit expensive -- I have both pg and vg based nicotine, pg, vg, and an assortment of flavorings from Perfumer's Apprentice, Blue Mist and Flavour Art. I suspect I've spent about $200 on all this stuff, but it's enough to last me maybe 3 years. So figure I spend $70/year on e-juice but also spend another $50 on trying out what other people have mixed up -- so $120.
So worst-case-scenario (assuming all equipment fails annually), my annual expense is $100+$73+$312+$10+$120 or $615/year
More realistically, just talking necessities, you can figure about half the equipment fails, I stop using disposable cartomizers and stop sampling other people's e-juice and the amount plummets to $50+$36+$10+$70 or $166/year Just for fun throw in a few miscellaneous supplies so you can round up to $200.
So you can quite feasibly vape for $200/year if you make your own juice and assume half your gear fails. So far, in 8 months, I have had zero equipment failures. But I baby my gear.
Your cost will likely end up being somewhere in between $200 and $800. I know that's a wide range. But maybe you'll have to try out a couple of different types of e-cig, maybe you'll want a "mod." Maybe you'll buy all your e-juice pre-made or just buy pre-filled cartomizers or whatnot.
I'd saw all in all I spend around $500/year; but your mileage will vary from mine. Hope this helps!
BrittanyNI,
Thank you for the detailed reply. I already love this forum, everyone is so helpful. I realize that whatever the cost, getting off those cancer sticks is the real reason I'm giveing the e gigs a try. The money saving is the icing on the cake.
Thanks
aland
Thank you from me too Brittany! I've been vaping for about 2 weeks now and LOVE it! This thread & your info in particular have been very helpful in trying to get my roommates to cape as well!
Atomizer 1 minute to months
Batteries 150 to 200 recharges
Cartridges - near forever, you can wash/dry and restuff them
Cartomizers 1 week if kept damp, maybe less or more depending on the carto, your juice and how you vape
Batteries 150 to 200 recharges
Cartridges - near forever, you can wash/dry and restuff them
Cartomizers 1 week if kept damp, maybe less or more depending on the carto, your juice and how you vape
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My two original ego batteries just died. They were 7 months old and I was using the dual coil cartos on them which probably killed them a bit sooner. I think that's pretty good. The one thing I haven't had a huge amount of luck with are pass-thrus. Both pass-thrus lasted under 3 months.
That's less than a dime a day. I'll happily live with that for the vape and flavor the DCCs provide!
I just use boxmods and they last about 6 months per 2 batteries and dual coil atomizers they last about 1 week, so 4 batteries a year and around 50 cartomizers, around $140 for hardware per year and $200 for juice.
That's less than a dime a day. I'll happily live with that for the vape and flavor the DCCs provide!
Me too Iffy!
That is for "proprietary" batteries like on the eGo/Riva. If you use non-proprietary batteries, they are said to be able to be recharged 1000+ times.
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