E-Cig no longer as satisfying. Reasons??

[ROKuser]

Hi,

I have been using the Rok Universal Starter Kit, which is a small cigarette size battery/cartomiser device, since the end of last year.

Initially the effect was great, it's a good device and I was down to only a pack of 20 a week(managed a week without smoking at all), but for the last few months the effect seems to be wearing off and I find myself smoking more. Nothing has changed, I'm using the same system, but it is not having the same satisfying effect it had initially. Is the novelty factor wearing off? I was thinking of buying their more powerful ROK Star tank/e-liquid device, but don't want to waste money if it won't help.

I do notice some inconsistencies with the cartomisers and don't always get the same good draw from them.

Thanks for any suggestions.

 

[RonsPlc]

get yourself a REAL e-cig
they tend to be a bit larger than a real cigarette, but perform a lot better.
I recommend a ego twist, or a spinner, or a kgo VV battery (remember to get the apropriate charger for whatever you decide on).
I also recommend getting some BOGE cartomizers, for a novice, they're great.

 

[Chrissie]

Hello & welcome Rokuser

I'm also in the UK BTW

Maybe a change of e-liquid would help you? Pus instead of going for another ROK, check out this list for good e-cig & e-liquid vendors -

http://allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/1148/cigarette-liquid-vendors-discount-codes

 

[NeilSwift]

Look a like cigs are a good initial way to stop smoking, and as much as that is good, that's all.

Get yourself an Ego battery and clearo/tank top device. Massive difference. I started on a 510 look a like type device and lasted one day.

 

[fabricator4]

Something missing? You might want to move up to something that makes a bit more vapour and has a little more nicotine. If you feel more satisfied then you may want to smoke even less. Have read of this three part blog:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/dvap/642-madame-psychosis-summary-pt-1.html

 

[NeilSwift]

Hello & welcome Rokuser

I'm also in the UK BTW

Maybe a change of e-liquid would help you? Pus instead of going for another ROK, check out this list for good e-cig & e-liquid vendors -

http://allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/1148/cigarette-liquid-vendors-discount-codes

You pimping AAEC Chrissie?. Tut tut.

 

[Sheila Michele 1971]

The only people I know who 'smoke' cigalikes only use them for their disposability and ability to use them in some smoke free places and not as an aid to stop smoking.

I liked the ego-t because the charge held for about 6 hours or so. It was strong enough that I got the vapor (it reminds me of exhaling smoke) My suggestion is to use liquids that are fruity with high nicotine (24 mg or perhaps even more).

You might not be getting that throat hit too, which is also a problem with some of the cigalikes from what Ive heard. Im a newb so I cant tell you about the pg/vg pros - but I find that 65 vg / 35 pg does me fine in that area.

I like the carto-tanks because I can fill it and 'forget it' (depending on how much I vape) and the liquids have a better taste than the clearomizers. I think that the carto-tanks have better reviews than just using cartomizers.....I keep reading about dry hits on just cartomizers.

 

[ROKuser]

Thanks for the replies. In terms of the device, it does produce a pretty good vapour for the size(throat hit varies but generally good) and I'm using it with the strong tobacco cartomisers(1.6%) that you replace. I will look into the suggestions, thanks.

 

[Wizzlefits]

As suggested, grab a full blown PV, and a higher nic level ejuice. There is really no comparison.

 

[Altaire Versailles]

everybody always says the obvious "dont smoke the look a likes" but honestly for most out and about situations thats what youre gonna feel comfortable smoking because they look enough like a cigarette for other people to guess what youre doing and not think youre doing drugs. And when youre starting to get off cigs it helps to not have something totally different in your hand to replace it so you dont feel so wierd about the switch, a lot of peeps forget that. Yes at home youre gonna want something like an ego twist with a good clearo like a stardust or a kanger t3 to satisfy you, or at worst, start buying juice with a higher nic count, but as far as when youre out and dont want to look like a druggie in social situations because nobody else knows what youre smoking, Ive found that just getting a new cart and keeping it full will give you good hits. Carts tend to gunk up in my experience so far after around 10 refills and a fresh carto with fresh juice gets it back to normal.

But yes the novelty of it wears off and it will start to not satisfy you because the best e cig a likes dont give good hits like a square does. I mean to get decent hits you have to pull VERY SLOW and VERY LONG. Its best for being inconspicuous and making the transition to vaping more seamless.

 

[truushot]

Because of a failure of V2 to deliver my goodies, I've moved on. I received my Spinners yesterday. It is far easier than I thought it would be and a far higher quality vape. I was going through, 2 if I really held my self back to 5 cartridges a day. It look like I'm around 4ml of juice from an all day vape. (sitting on couch all day.) So a normal day would be far less. The price difference alone is worth it. Not having to change the battery every few hours is amazing in itself. Move on, you may find you like it even better.

 

[Johnnie Price]

There are quality cig-alikes out there, but they're rare and I'm not sure under which branding they would fall under in the UK. I use a cig-alike as my primary device these days, and it was what got me to finally quit smoking after spending months trying out so-called better batteries. But that all comes down to personal preference.

I'm not sure about the ROK, but I think it's a l88b like the Blu. If so, and if you're using the pre-filled cartomizers, then your nic strength and possibly the PG/VG blend may not be strong enough to give you that satisfaction you need. Again, I don't know about the ROK so I'm just guessing based on the Blu and other similar minis. Also, Blu uses a 2.8 ohm atomizer in their cartomizers - at least the one PBusardo checked on his Provari metered out in that range. If ROK is the same, then you won't be getting that hot, strong vape that your sense probably crave right now.

If you're not ready to upgrade to a larger device yet, you may want to look into getting some 306 blank cartomizers in the 2.2-2.4 ohm range and filling them with some liquid of your choosing. Of course, the battery life will suck even more.

Good luck.

 

[djsvapour]

Thanks for the replies. In terms of the device, it does produce a pretty good vapour for the size(throat hit varies but generally good) and I'm using it with the strong tobacco cartomisers(1.6%) that you replace. I will look into the suggestions, thanks.

I can only speak as I find and Sheila (above) makes a good point. Without wishing to sound like someone from "another planet" mini e-cigs are not very good. You might feel the vapour is OK etc. but essentially if you have not quit smoking, then, like many of us, using these products simply fails.

The fact you never stopped smoking underlines a serious problem both for early-days vapers and the industry as a whole. E-cigs are hanging on in there (against the Euro plans, rogue countries and US local bans) as an "alternative" to smoking. They CAN be this, but simply buying a starter kit with something that looks like a large plastic cigarette is NOT the answer for many people. 1.6% cartomisers are not "strong", not unless you vape ENOUGH to satisfy your nicotine addiction.

I quite like the ROK brand, but I would not recommend you spend any more money on them; there have been numerous posts of various forums about how many problems people have had with even the more expensive gear.

I think you need to grasp the nettle and make a decision. Do you want to continue smoking tobacco? Do you want to hold a "vanity stick" like Leonardo Dicaprio and pretend like this is anything other than a device to get you through times in the day when you want to smoke and are not allowed, by law or social reasons.

We have a brand in the UK which is trying to sell as many mini e-cigs as quickly as possible for the most money they can get. I used this brand at great cost and after failing to quit smoking from just 15 a day, have been on a 8 month quest to switch permanently to vaping and then quit vaping too.

Buy yourself a decent e-cig from an independent vendor, ask lots of questions on forums; mostly please, please give yourself half a chance to quit smoking for good, today, tomorrow or in not too long.

Stay on here, or also sign up at aaec or ukv. There a millions of us (across the globe) who have been there and done that with look-a-like e-cigs. If you want to do it, DO IT!

Good luck.

 

[djsvapour]

Because of a failure of V2 to deliver my goodies, I've moved on. I received my Spinners yesterday. It is far easier than I thought it would be and a far higher quality vape. I was going through, 2 if I really held my self back to 5 cartridges a day. It look like I'm around 4ml of juice from an all day vape. (sitting on couch all day.) So a normal day would be far less. The price difference alone is worth it. Not having to change the battery every few hours is amazing in itself. Move on, you may find you like it even better.

Great post! I found using two pre-filled cartomisers (E-Lites) a day was frighteningly expensive and failed, unequivocally. That would have been £3,000 a year. I use Rivas and Spinners now and recommend them without reservation.

 

[eratikmind]

Hi,

I have been using the Rok Universal Starter Kit, which is a small cigarette size battery/cartomiser device, since the end of last year.

Initially the effect was great, it's a good device and I was down to only a pack of 20 a week(managed a week without smoking at all), but for the last few months the effect seems to be wearing off and I find myself smoking more. Nothing has changed, I'm using the same system, but it is not having the same satisfying effect it had initially. Is the novelty factor wearing off? I was thinking of buying their more powerful ROK Star tank/e-liquid device, but don't want to waste money if it won't help.

I do notice some inconsistencies with the cartomisers and don't always get the same good draw from them.

Thanks for any suggestions.

ROK . . . I had the same experience liken to yours in the respect that, I soon tired of the Blu disposables and the Blu kit. Shortly after using the the said, they were not as satisfying, as they were initially. I also dislike the fact that the factory carts were not as consistent in flavor as I would have liked and had expected.

I knew that in order to maintain and to continue my smoke free journey, I would need to fine another method. A method where I could better control the vaping experience and to insure that is was a positive one, at that.

I bought myself a couple of Joyetech ego-c twist batteries and a large assortment of clearomizers. This said set-up captured my vaping satisfaction and my curiosity, as well. I wondered if it could get any better than what I was enjoying, at that moment.

Now, I have upgraded my PV and have tried cartotanks, which I love to vape with. The cartotank set-up truly opened my eyes and taste buds. With regard to a clearomizer eliquid delivery device, I have come to prefer to use a Kanger protank.

The flavor and taste game bar has yet been raised again, as I started to venture into the realm of RBAs. For myself, everyday is a new and better vaping experience, as I read and learn from all of these wonderful people, whom reside here at ECF.


- Andy . . . Challenge the day.

 

[AttyPops]

Kinda funny story... My GF has two eGo batteries and some cartos with juice to fill them. Set her up fairly well. That was 2 years ago. She still smokes. Vapes around me sometimes rather than smoking. I don't nag or say anything. The funny part...she just purchased a "cig-a-like" on a whim at a local tobacco shop with some 2.4 % pre-filled carts. She vaped on the way to and from dinner out on Friday (quite a drive) and had no problems. Liked the cig-a-like, was a bit harsh at times but OK.

Basically...to each their own. Plenty of people can, and do, use super-mini PVs (cig-a-likes) and really want that form factor. They get a bunch of batteries, maybe a PCC, and they vape away.

A couple of things:
1) The "fat bats" are more convenient...but in the end you're just powering a small coil. You can adjust the ohms on the cart to get the vape you want even without VV (although I admit VV is REAL nice).
2) Charge time sucks with super-minis so have a lot of spares. Or maybe a fat-bat as a backup.
3) the real important thing...you CAN use say a 2.0 ohm cart. I wouldn't go much lower than that. However, adding your own juice to the cart (filling blank carts) is definitely better and provides you with a lot of variety and cost savings. You'll probably want a syringe to fill them but there are other methods too.
4) I suggest a button cig with a sealed connector. However, some of the auto models have "sealed" pressure switches too. Volt comes to mind.
5) KR808's are popular in this category and you should pay attention to the connector types to get a standard one and not get "locked in" to proprietary vendor carts.

Or go fat. Totally up to you.

 

[NeilSwift]

Basically, tough love here but look a likes suck. They are so weak and perform so badly that they put people off vaping and get them back to smoking within days.

Move on and up. Get educated and informed. Loose the smokes.

 

[truushot]

Kinda funny story... My GF has two eGo batteries and some cartos with juice to fill them. Set her up fairly well. That was 2 years ago. She still smokes. Vapes around me sometimes rather than smoking. I don't nag or say anything. The funny part...she just purchased a "cig-a-like" on a whim at a local tobacco shop with some 2.4 % pre-filled carts. She vaped on the way to and from dinner out on Friday (quite a drive) and had no problems. Liked the cig-a-like, was a bit harsh at times but OK.

Basically...to each their own. Plenty of people can, and do, use super-mini PVs (cig-a-likes) and really want that form factor. They get a bunch of batteries, maybe a PCC, and they vape away.

A couple of things:
1) The "fat bats" are more convenient...but in the end you're just powering a small coil. You can adjust the ohms on the cart to get the vape you want even without VV (although I admit VV is REAL nice).
2) Charge time sucks with super-minis so have a lot of spares. Or maybe a fat-bat as a backup.
3) the real important thing...you CAN use say a 2.0 ohm cart. I wouldn't go much lower than that. However, adding your own juice to the cart (filling blank carts) is definitely better and provides you with a lot of variety and cost savings. You'll probably want a syringe to fill them but there are other methods too.
4) I suggest a button cig with a sealed connector. However, some of the auto models have "sealed" pressure switches too. Volt comes to mind.
5) KR808's are popular in this category and you should pay attention to the connector types to get a standard one and not get "locked in" to proprietary vendor carts.

Or go fat. Totally up to you.

Nothing against cig like set ups, I was 10+ months with them. I'm on day 2 with a spinner and I'd never go back.

 

[AttyPops]

Nothing against cig like set ups, I was 10+ months with them. I'm on day 2 with a spinner and I'd never go back.

Sure. Common story in fact.

I moved into "box mods" fairly quickly since I wanted higher volt vaping (back before VV) and oomph. It took that "oomph" for me to stay off the cigs. But to each their own. Some people really feel they NEED that form factor.

My MOM quit smoking in her late 70s with e-cigs. She wanted to. Cool. Saved $$$ too. However, she had an eGo AND a cig-a-like and switched between them. Just for the form factor. lol.

There's no one rule for this. Do what works for ya. Or do it all (except...the smokes! Give those up if you can. IMHO)

 

[Zurd]

I found that with time the same ecig setup isn't as satisfiying as before. I think our throat develops endurance against the vapor and we feel it less and less. Kind of like the first 5 minutes of vaping in the morning, it's much more powerful than at the end of the day. For the past 3 years I've moved to new atomizers and more voltage that would give me a harsher/harder throat hit.

Fortunately I've been on the same setup for the past 7 months and it's still satisfiying