E-cigarette ads to be banned on Ebay?

[tescela]

According to this seller's post, Ebay is banning e-cigarette sales as of the end of June:

E Cig smoke juice recipe - eBay (item 140323995590 end time Jun-29-09 05:53:22 PDT)


Does anyone have confirmation that Ebay is indeed planning to ban e-cigarette sales?

 

[Mufftrix]

Yes can confirm this is true

FROM EBAY UK.......

29 May, 2009 | 10:00AM BST

E-cigarettes
From 30th June 2009, electronic cigarettes or e-cigarettes will be banned from sale on eBay.co.uk and eBay.ie. This ban will enable ebay.co.uk and ebay.ie to have consistent policies with other eBay sites throughout Europe. The ban also includes any listing of component parts (including but not limited to): cartridges, atomisers, liquid refills, vaporisers, batteries and shells. Full details of this policy will be available on 30th June

 

[Mufftrix]

Think you double posted but anyhows ha-ha

29 May, 2009 | 10:00AM BST

E-cigarettes
From 30th June 2009, electronic cigarettes or e-cigarettes will be banned from sale on eBay.co.uk and eBay.ie. This ban will enable ebay.co.uk and ebay.ie to have consistent policies with other eBay sites throughout Europe. The ban also includes any listing of component parts (including but not limited to): cartridges, atomisers, liquid refills, vaporisers, batteries and shells. Full details of this policy will be available on 30th June

 

[tescela]

Think you double posted but anyhows ha-ha

29 May, 2009 | 10:00AM BST

E-cigarettes
From 30th June 2009, electronic cigarettes or e-cigarettes will be banned from sale on eBay.co.uk and eBay.ie. This ban will enable ebay.co.uk and ebay.ie to have consistent policies with other eBay sites throughout Europe. The ban also includes any listing of component parts (including but not limited to): cartridges, atomisers, liquid refills, vaporisers, batteries and shells. Full details of this policy will be available on 30th June

Yes, I did double-post, b/c I didn't know where this topic belongs.

I cannot believe that Ebay is actually doing this! What is their justification?!

 

[tescela]

Yes can confirm this is true

FROM EBAY UK.......

29 May, 2009 | 10:00AM BST

E-cigarettes
From 30th June 2009, electronic cigarettes or e-cigarettes will be banned from sale on eBay.co.uk and eBay.ie. This ban will enable ebay.co.uk and ebay.ie to have consistent policies with other eBay sites throughout Europe. The ban also includes any listing of component parts (including but not limited to): cartridges, atomisers, liquid refills, vaporisers, batteries and shells. Full details of this policy will be available on 30th June

I cannot believe that Ebay is actually doing this! What is their justification?!

 

[Mufftrix]

Yes, I did double-post, b/c I didn't know where this topic belongs.

I cannot believe that Ebay is actually doing this! What is their justification?!

I suppose there justification is because nothing sold has being legislated as yet so covering themselves?

 

[tescela]

I suppose there justification is because nothing sold has being legislated as yet so covering themselves?

But ban apparently does not extend to Ebay.com (U.S. site). Why would they specifically target Europe?

 

[smokinsimon]

I would imagine, because you must be 18 to buy, there's really no age verification system in place for eBay I don't think.

 

[PTJD]

Threads Merged.

 

[popsec]

But ban apparently does not extend to Ebay.com (U.S. site). Why would they specifically target Europe?

I'm confused.....I thought they'd been banned on eBay's U.S. site for awhile now

 

[halopunker]

Ya, unfortunately it's been that way for awhile now in the USA. Regardless of what the product is, ebay has the right to deny any product from being sold on their website. Although, it is kind of funny. I did a search on Nicotine and it returned 42 pages of Nicotine gum, patches, and Lozenges. Weird.

 

[TropicalBob]

Sadly, those are approved products with studied consequences. E-smoking is a great unknown -- a lawyer's delight and a damage-award gold mine if anything goes wrong, ever.

 

[Mighty Cowphin]

THIS IS A CUT AND PASTE ON WHAT I FOUND about ebay and the ban... Looks like it isn't just Europe folks....

Ebay has banned the sale of the e-cigarette.The e-Cigarette, also know as an electronic cigarette, or e-cig, is a new type of smoking device that is becoming more and more popular by the day. E-cigarettes are an effective method to enjoy nicotine/and smoking without the harmful toxins and chemicals associated with traditional cigarettes.

Because this e cigarette isn't really a cigarette... one would expect that the usual "smoking rules" just dont apply here. But... Ebay claims it violates their alcohol and tobacco policy.

eBay does not permit listings for most alcoholic beverages and tobacco products on their U.S. Web site. This includes cigarettes, cigars, and smokeless tobacco. In addition, non-U.S. members are not allowed to sell alcohol to an eBay member who is located in the United States.

Ebay States:

"Because of various regulatory issues, cigarettes, cigars, and smokeless tobacco products are not allowed on eBay. Please note that these items are not allowed whether or not they contain actual tobacco."

Sounds silly...If it doesn't contain actual tobacco it isn't a cigarette... right?

eeeDictionary. eee
com

Definition of cigarette:
a cylindrical roll of finely cut tobacco cured for smoking, considerably smaller than most cigars and usually wrapped in thin white paper.

And...

eeeWikipedia. eee com it says

An electronic cigarette (or "e-cigarette") is an alternative to smoked tobacco products, such as cigarettes, cigars, or pipes.

Hmmm....

Wonder if I could request my fees back on my cancelled auctions and use this as an argument.

So... in a desperate attempt to beat the system and utilize e-bays advertising power many e-bayers are trying different ways to trick the system, unsuccessfully, I might add. I have been following the different ways ebayers are attempting to list the infamous e-cigarette, so to save you a bit of time and money here are some ways that won't work if you are trying to list e-cigarettes on ebay;

Listing them as the "no nicotine version of the e-cigarette" won't work...

Listing a e-cigarette accessory and trying to sneak in your website address to the actual e-cigarette. Ebay does not allow links to websites that contain e-cigarettes.

Selling "information only" on how to obtain e- cigarettes "not the actual e-cigarette" doesn't work either, even though the e-cigarette is not offered in the auction.

It's really too bad because the e-cigarette offers alot of health benefits to those who smoke traditional cigarettes as it is a healthier way to smoke and though it is not designed as a smoking cessation device it certainly could be used as one, as the e-cigarette offers different levels of nicotine cartridges; high, medium, low and none. This could certainly be used to "ween" one from the smoking habit in my opinion.

So, there you have it, ebay is a dead end when it comes to selling e-cigarettes.

Fortunately all is not lost... If you are interested in more information about the e-cigarette visit: (TAKEN OUT..was web address) quit Smoking or Smoke Healthier - Now There's a Choice.

By: sshinkel

I am not yet able to put up links... but I got this on this site www articledashboard com
/Article/E-bay-Bans-E-cigarette-Sales/872736

 

[chainy]

I tried to purchase my first e-cig on ebay, but after a day or two the auction was shut down by ebay.

 

[aidenunder]

EXPLAIN TO THEM THERE IS NO TOBACCO IN ECIGS!!!! got i hate this bulls**t

 

[davidb]

Yea, I was so confused at first how others were able to post ecigs on ebay and I got banned. Its pretty much a lost cause, but as said before, Ebay can do as they like. Trying to reason with them really does nothing.

 

[Taelon]

Ebay.de banned, too, nearly all sellers filtered or banned here, even chinese/hk.

So ebay is out for e-cigarettes.

 

[Taelon]

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