E-Cigarette ~ Depression and Depression Medication

[aikanae1]

Your not the first person who has mentioned depression getting worse after they started vaping and / or medications may need to be changed. I've noticed my depression deeping and I was trying to figure out why - then ran across your post. Gee. Maybe I should take my own advice. Someone else mentioned MAOI's and that's true. Nicotine is both a stimulant and relaxer so it also makes sense that maybe your at too low a dose or WTA's could help. That goes for me too.

Hopefully this too shall pass.

Hi everyone, I just signed on. I'm so sad. I've been using Logic E-Cigarettes for a few weeks. I loved using it, but noticed that my depression was getting worse. I'm on depression medications and noticed the back of the package "do not take if you have depression." Does anyone know what and why any of the ingredient could make depression worse? propylene glycol, glycerin, terpineol, methylfurfural, vanillin, menthol. I am back to smoking regular cigs. and it's making me sick. Please help me!

 

[NiNi]

I'm wondering what a poll would end up like with a question "Did you experience depression within the 1st month after your last analog?" I understand "cigarettes" have the similar effect on your endorphin's (happy chemicals) as am extremely addictive hard core "illicit substance". (I'm trying to tread here lightly, Mods) I was told by a doc many years ago that it was actually harder to quit stinkies than that particular "substance". There's many variables to consider, accessibility, legality, withdrawal symptoms, length of withdraws, etc., but it was mind blowing to say the least. This Dr. was part of the movement by the then attorney general of Arizona to push for public bans on analogs in restaurants, etc. State and Nationally. Wish I had something to link it with.

Never say Never, PuppyPaws, there's probably more just like us out there and they've found a way to vaping!

 

[jwat82]

I was diagnosed bipolar a couple years ago and switched fully to vaping about 3 months ago. I did have bad depression about a month afterward switching, but there was (and still is) other crazy stuff going on in my life, so there's really no way to tell if guitting analogs had any part in it.

My suggestion, as it always is in matters like this, talk to your doc.

Good luck! Feel free to pm if you have any questions you think I might be able to answer!

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[NiNi]

Bumpin' this up!
This link was posted on another thread and it does have some interesting info in a "short version": What is nicotine?

Here's just part of a brief excerpt:
"Addictive properties - nicotine is highly addictive. People who regularly consume nicotine and then suddenly stop experience withdrawal symptoms, which may include cravings, a sense of emptiness, anxiety, depression, moodiness, irritability, and inattentiveness. The American Heart Association says that nicotine (from smoking tobacco) is one of the hardest substances to quit - at least as hard as ......."
Hope this isn't against TOS, but there's the yucky feelings. It's a short read, but will answer a lot for peeps on anti-depressants and how the first few weeks of vaping will have side effects similar to depression. It's up to you and your doctor to decide which is causing what...if that makes any sense!

 

[Katya]

Bumpin' this up!
This link was posted on another thread and it does have some interesting info in a "short version": What is nicotine?

Here's just part of a brief excerpt:
"Addictive properties - nicotine is highly addictive. People who regularly consume nicotine and then suddenly stop experience withdrawal symptoms, which may include cravings, a sense of emptiness, anxiety, depression, moodiness, irritability, and inattentiveness. The American Heart Association says that nicotine (from smoking tobacco) is one of the hardest substances to quit - at least as hard as ......."
Hope this isn't against TOS, but there's the yucky feelings. It's a short read, but will answer a lot for peeps on anti-depressants and how the first few weeks of vaping will have side effects similar to depression. It's up to you and your doctor to decide which is causing what...if that makes any sense!

Just as long as you remember that "nicotine from smoking tobacco" is very different from "nicotine" found in gum, patches and eliquids. Two different animals.

 

[twgbonehead]

Cigarettes are a very complicated, "Designer" addiction. Nicotine itself is not that hard to quit, but cigarettes encompass so much more.

There is the nicotine (which everyone focuses on)

There is the oral fixation.
There is the social pressure (let's face it, if you have smoking friends, they feel both shame and loss when "one of us" quits).

But the most important factor, IMHO is the MAOIs (which take several weeks to build up, and several weeks to go away) - this is one reason why so many people can easily "quit" - for a week or two, and then go back to cigarettes (after 2 weeks, the nicotine is long gone, which is why you get that long-lost "nic-rush" even after being off cigarettes for only a week or so). Cigarettes are carefully crafted to foster multiple stages of withdrawal, so just when you think you've got them beat, they come at you again.

DO, please, talk with your doctor, but also recognize that what you're going through is not unusual in any way, shape, or form. Quitting cigarettes, even with all the help that is available (including e-cigs) is still one damned hard challenge. I hope for the best for you!

 

[IzCarol]

Good Luck to you!

 

[seahawkin]

I deal with mental illness, I am Bi-Polar. Quitting smoking has always been an all alert for me, taking many months to even out. Problem was even after I went through all that, nicotine had a mood stabilizing effects and helped me deal with certain meds, so I would go back. Ecigs helped me break that cycle and I have a very supportive doctor who has seen what I mentioned above in others.

So when I was getting ready to quit, I would let everyone around me know the date. I was prepared to be ummmm... unbalanced. Made sure I had the support needed and use the patch or whatever. The withdrawal from all the other crap they put in ciggies was real intense for me. I am just real glad I found something that worked for me to get off the yo-yo. Over 2 years with out a cig and pretty stable.

Best of luck. PM me if ya wanna talk, I don't have the answers just know what worked for me.

 

[FlamingoTutu]

This is the kind of support that makes ECF so outstanding. Bumping this in hope that the OP will see the additional information and support offered to him/her. Hope you are feeling better Puppy Paws!

 

[tigerman2000]

I'm bipolar and have been on a cocktail of meds over the past few years, though now I'm only on 2 meds and pretty stable. I actually talked to my therapist about this exact thing. She said the worst thing someone with a mental disorder, like depression, can do is quite smoking suddenly. Aside from the sudden nicotine withdrawals and imbalance in your body, the disruption of the habit and "ritual" of smoking (both psychological) can make depression worse.

You should definitely talk to a psychiatrist/psychologist/therapist about your worsening depression. They are the only ones qualified to determine the right course of action.

As someone who has suffered from horrible depression myself, I know exactly what you're going through. One thing I found that always helps me feel better is a little physical activity. Even if it's just going for a walk.

Hang in there!

 

[Oakland77]

Good Luck, Hang in there.