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My stepfather is rolling over wishing he was in his grave....last time I went to see family I watched him turn on the stocks like clockwork...and then look like he was gonna cry...(well his version of of it.... he just gets all stoic...)
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Anyone know what's happened to Katmandu? I haven't seen her around for awhile...Hope she's ok..
Hey Everybody,
After life and vacation, I have finally made my way back here.
WOW! Lots happened in the last while - gonna take me some time to catch up!
But, I will be around more now.
Missed all you guys.
Hey Everybody,
After life and vacation, I have finally made my way back here.
WOW! Lots happened in the last while - gonna take me some time to catch up!
But, I will be around more now.
Missed all you guys.
EXCELLENT NEWS! Hope the holiday was a good one!
Hi Kat...still love that cute kitty face AVI...reminds me of my childhood cat Tuffy...glad your back...
that cute kitty face AVI...reminds me of my childhood cat Tuffy...glad your back...
I wonder if part of it is the "I had to suffer, so everyone else should be made to suffer, too" syndrome. I'm thinking of the doctors who want the Residents to be made to go for 36 hours straight on duty without rest. (Don't worry about the safety of the patient; just worry about 'getting even' with the world for your own suffering.)
I guess the idea is that they want to feel that the suffering part is important. Otherwise what they went through seems such a waste.
I'm more like the person who was abused as a child and who vows to never inflict that on someone else.
Hey Madman!
I've started back 22 pages and am working my way forward - I may skip some though - these old eyes get tired after a while.
I have questions already though:
1. Has everyone left "that which shall remain nameless"?
2. Did Beth really buy an ecig?
3. When can CB come back?
4. Has Magnus left for his job already?
5. Has Randy got a job?
That'll do for starters. Okay - back to reading. I'll check back in a while.
I've started back 22 pages and am working my way forward - I may skip some though - these old eyes get tired after a while.
I have questions already though:
1. Has everyone left "that which shall remain nameless"?
2. Did Beth really buy an ecig?
3. When can CB come back?
4. Has Magnus left for his job already?
5. Has Randy got a job?
That'll do for starters. Okay - back to reading. I'll check back in a while.
It really is neat looking. It is the only PV that has ever gotten the attention of my friends. When someone comes over to visit they usually look at it and say "Cool, what is that?" Been having fun with that. I'm too old to worry about John Q too much.
It really does work well. I have been using mine non-stop since it arrived. No problems of any kind.
I've ordered. Hope it's good!
Cheers
I sure hope you like it. I got some standard ohm atty's yesterday and I'm liking it more than ever. I can take several good draws now before the atty gets too hot and puts off "burn taste." But it was even pretty neat before. Just had to rest it more. I think you'll like how good your juice tastes.
That is one of the (very very few) good things about getting old. You tend not to attract much attention because nobody sees older folk as a threat. I think you become invisible.
I got what I hope to be standard ohm atties with my order, but since I have a Provari I should be able to find a voltage to make almost anything work, I hope.
Got a tracking number already so I might even get it for my birthday next Wednesday.
Cheers
Hey Kat! Welcome back.
Renstyle stayed, and C.B. as well I think. Maybe one or two others, but yes mostly everyone left.
Now, but she told me she doesn't think she's going to, at least for awhile. She did tell me to say hello to everyone here.
Don't know, Magnus hasn't been seen in this thread for about a week now.
Not that he has mentioned.
Renstyle stayed, and C.B. as well I think. Maybe one or two others, but yes mostly everyone left.
Not as far as she is admitting to. She says she quit smoking again, her counter is on day 8 or 9.
Now, but she told me she doesn't think she's going to, at least for awhile. She did tell me to say hello to everyone here.
Don't know, Magnus hasn't been seen in this thread for about a week now.
Not that he has mentioned.
The damage done by smoking is cumulative and dose-dependent. The doctors don't ask, "When was your last cigarette?" They ask, "How many years did you smoke and how many cigarettes per day?" They use this information to calculate "pack years." if you smoked 1/2 a pack a day for 10 years, you would have a total of 5 pack years. If you smoked 2 packs a day for 10 years, you'd have 20 pack years, etc.
As far as you body is concerned, if you have accumulated 50 pack years, stay abstinent for a couple of years, and then have one cigarette before stopping again, you still have a total of 50 pack years. You'd have to smoke a pack a day for 3.65 days to move the tick up by 1% of a pack year.
So, OK, riddle me this. Why should quitting be measured only from the last time you had a smoke? And why should days, weeks, months, or years of smoking abstinence be ignored? Your body doesn't ignore it. It heals to some extent during those periods of abstinence.
If you took off 6 months from smoking twenty years back, those 6 months are not calculated into your smoking pack years. If you stopped being a regular smoker 2-1/2 years ago, as I did, what does it really matter if you had one and only one cigarette sometime during that 2-1/2 years? The physical damage is very sensitive to quantity.
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Very much so. The suffering is hugely important, because suffering is seen as a virtue in its own right, a goal to be sought after, a desired result, and the provider of spiritual benefit.
We try not to let me start on this topic, I already committed at least 50,000 words of blogrant about it, and people are still in recovery from that. Please pet them.
It's not about physical damage or quotidian Science facts, it's about Belief. To them, I mean. I really liked those Science facts, even though my pack years would have to be carbon dated in the early Pleistocene department of the Lourve or somewhere.
For some of them, smoking is just a sort of vehicle for the expression of a much more comprehensive belief system.
One of the reasons e-cigarettes is so offensive to them is the very straightforward and literal nature of the process.
I know the technology of it all becomes a hobby, passion, etc for many people here, but for most, it's a simple upgrade of what one puffs. A morally neutral habit that continues as it always has - just like one's life does.
There is no way that such a person can be brought into the fold or made to understand the importance of suffering.
It's like trying to sign a bunch of Sufis up for Agnus Dei. 404. file not found.
*shudders* The suffering as a goal mentality is what keeps people under the thumbs of crazies like Jim Jones, David Koresh and Warren Jeffs. They can keep it.
So what you are saying lolady is that their belief is like a religious experience?
Because I know a few people who are like the people on that board except their flavour of choice is religion. Their god is an angry, vengeful god and they must adhere to very strict rules.
No matter how you talk to them - you are going to hell and they are not. Their fervour is a little frightening.
Because I know a few people who are like the people on that board except their flavour of choice is religion. Their god is an angry, vengeful god and they must adhere to very strict rules.
No matter how you talk to them - you are going to hell and they are not. Their fervour is a little frightening.
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