E-Cigarette Forum Discussion Thread
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What did anyone say with trouble posting? My first post said, "Hi, I'm Michael". It was approved by morning, and that was it. I can post. Maybe the key was not posting anything that says a word about you.
Okay, I just posted in the OMG thread. Got the standard: This message has been submitted successfully, but it will need to be approved by a moderator before it is publicly viewable. You will be notified when your post has been approved.
We'll see.
We'll see.
Let me share a little story with you guys.
My hubby has been on MAOIs for years his ex thought he was bi polar and so he just went to the doc said he wanted to try anti depressants and they prescribed him some (IMO I think they should establish you actually need them before writing you a script bu that's for another post).
Well he decided he wanted to quit taking them since he wasn't sure he needed them... I told him that was fine with me.... OMG it was hell!!! He was horribly grouchy and moody it was like living with Dr Jekyl and MR Hyde I kid you not!!!
Well I hopped on the web and did some research it turns our even though they are classified as not being addictive people can and do have withdrawels when discontinuing many MAOI antidepressants. Prozac seems to be the main exception since it does not build up in your system (not sure why it doesn't).
I never though of this in relation to cigarettes until recently when I saw that thread with them talking about the MAOIs... don't know if any of you saw it Dvap was one of the main contributors on that thread... anyway now it makes me wonder how many of us were addicted to something else in cigs rather than the nicotine?
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Thanks about my cat - I appreciate it - from you and everyone here.
I'm going to ask as I value your insight. This seems for the most part to be over now with the exception of a post or two trying to bait us into an argument by the "group".
Do you think this is really over and we have been for the most part "accepted"? Or are they just laying in wait for us to screw up somewhere so they can get us banned?
With everything that has gone on over there I'm a little paranoid when these people start being "nice".
Thanks about my cat - I appreciate it - from you and everyone here.
I'm going to ask as I value your insight. This seems for the most part to be over now with the exception of a post or two trying to bait us into an argument by the "group".
Do you think this is really over and we have been for the most part "accepted"? Or are they just laying in wait for us to screw up somewhere so they can get us banned?
With everything that has gone on over there I'm a little paranoid when these people start being "nice".
5 of my 7 attempts have been friendly, hello type posts. 2 of my 7 attempts were no more trollish than the reply Shannon posted for me on the QSMB "The truth about why they're really here" thread. After reading some posts from The Big Chief, I have to say I really can't even begin to understand why I can't post and they can.
Did everyone get a chance to listen to the song I posted for you? It's relative.
I saw that thread Shannon and your post. I've alway thought there was more to cigarette addiction beyond just nicotine and hand-to-mouth. I've never given any thought to MAOIs until just recently, but then again I didn't know that cigarettes contained MAOIs until just recently. For me, it's like the pieces of a puzzle starting to fall into place.
I don't know Shannon - it could be the MAOI's. I'm going to have to look into that.
But I also think some of it is psychological - cigarettes were just part of me - it was like I lost a body part.
I carried around a half a pack of smokes in my purse for about 2 months - it was just comforting to know they were there. I did finally throw them away - but it was really weird - I'd think to myself - well what if I need one?
Now - I can't even find a lighter when I want to light a candle!
But I also think some of it is psychological - cigarettes were just part of me - it was like I lost a body part.
I carried around a half a pack of smokes in my purse for about 2 months - it was just comforting to know they were there. I did finally throw them away - but it was really weird - I'd think to myself - well what if I need one?
Now - I can't even find a lighter when I want to light a candle!
Check this out taken from here.
Although nicotine is generally considered to be the main compound responsible for the addictive properties of tobacco, experimental data indicate that nicotine does not exhibit all the characteristics of other abused substances, such as psychostimulants and opiates. For example, nicotine is only a weak locomotor enhancer in rats and generally fails to induce a locomotor response in mice. This observation contradicts the general consensus that all drugs of abuse release dopamine in the nucleus accumbens, a subcortical structure, and thus increase locomotor activity in rodents. Because tobacco smoke contains monoamine oxidase inhibitors (MAOIs) and decreases MAO activity in smokers, we have combined MAOIs with nicotine to determine whether it is possible to obtain a locomotor response to nicotine in C57Bl6 mice. Among 15 individual or combined MAOIs, including harmane, norharmane, moclobemide, selegiline, pargyline, clorgyline, tranylcypromine and phenelzine, only irreversible inhibitors of both MAO-A and -B (tranylcypromine, phenelzine, and clorgyline+selegiline) allowed a locomotor response to nicotine. The locomotor stimulant interaction of tranylcypromine and nicotine was absent in beta2-nicotinic acetylcholine receptor subunit knockout mice. Finally, it was found that, whereas naive rats did not readily self-administer nicotine (10 mug/kg/injection), a robust self-administration of nicotine occurred when animals were pretreated with tranylcypromine (3 mg/kg). Our data suggest that MAOIs contained in tobacco and tobacco smoke act in synergy with nicotine to enhance its rewarding effects.
I am going to look ito this further but its thought provoking at the very least.
Not sure if it makes sense or not, but I do have a new band to follow. Thanks.
lol... to be honest I had a hard time discerning the lyrics.... ooops!
Yeah, my music taste is all over the map, but I have a special affinity for alternative and off beat. Chrissy Hynde? Yeah, I can see that (or hear that ).
).Yeah its funny our lighters just kind of vanished not long after we quit...good in a way because seeing them was a trigger for me for awhile....anyway I put them all in drawer and now they're all gone except one green bic.... *shrug*
lol... to be honest I had a hard time discerning the lyrics.... ooops!
Me too. I had to google the lyrics. It was the instrumentation and vocal sound that caught my attention.
My husband still smokes so there is never a lighter very far away, but I always keep one close at hand anyway. Gotta keep them close in the spring and summer for frying those nasty little blood sucking .......s... er, umm, ticks.
Thanks Sallie and I've been gonna ask you about yours .. is that Harold Robbins by any chance?
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