e cigarette recommendation please
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You can cut your nicotine later if you want to. For now, get off the cigarettes. I made a recommendation in another thread and I'm just going to paste it here.
You probably aren't going to believe me but, the biggest mistake a new vapor makes is insisting on something that looks like a cigarette. The second biggest is getting automatic batteries. Vaping is like smoking but, it's not smoking and you will know the difference. You will probably get to where you appreciate the difference. I understand you want to be able to hold it like a cigarette but, the weight makes that a problem too and there's no kit that approaches a cigarette in weight.
A charge on a cigarette sized battery will last less than 2 hours in most cases. You will get really tired of being tied to a charger. I promise.
As for the automatic batteries there are two problems. First, they can go off when you don't want them to and sometimes they don't go off when you do want them to. Second, if you start refilling cartos, you will eventually overfill and short out the battery.
The better system for starting out is the Riva 510 kit on Liberty Flights which is the same thing as the Joye eGo. Some say it's better. You can go 6 to 8 hours on a single charge and it's a manual battery. You'll get used to pushing the button really quick. It's about the size of a sharpie. Get a couple packs of Boge 510 cartomizers. Some juice in a variety of flavors and nic levels and you'll be set. Sounds like a little trouble and it is but, it's worth it.
You probably aren't going to believe me but, the biggest mistake a new vapor makes is insisting on something that looks like a cigarette. The second biggest is getting automatic batteries. Vaping is like smoking but, it's not smoking and you will know the difference. You will probably get to where you appreciate the difference. I understand you want to be able to hold it like a cigarette but, the weight makes that a problem too and there's no kit that approaches a cigarette in weight.
A charge on a cigarette sized battery will last less than 2 hours in most cases. You will get really tired of being tied to a charger. I promise.
As for the automatic batteries there are two problems. First, they can go off when you don't want them to and sometimes they don't go off when you do want them to. Second, if you start refilling cartos, you will eventually overfill and short out the battery.
The better system for starting out is the Riva 510 kit on Liberty Flights which is the same thing as the Joye eGo. Some say it's better. You can go 6 to 8 hours on a single charge and it's a manual battery. You'll get used to pushing the button really quick. It's about the size of a sharpie. Get a couple packs of Boge 510 cartomizers. Some juice in a variety of flavors and nic levels and you'll be set. Sounds like a little trouble and it is but, it's worth it.
As MickeyRat said, you don't need device that looks like a real cig, and you may want it to NOT look like a cig after time. I also agree you do not want automatic batteries. Whatever you choose, make sure they are MANUAL. The manual batteries are sealed, and trust me, you will have juice leaking into you battery sooner or later. With experience, you will know just the right amount of juice to add and leaking will become less of an issue.
Cigarette size batteries will last maybe 2 hours as stated above. Compare that to not having a lighter every time you need to light up. Not good.... What I dislike even more about the small batteries is that the performance drops very rapidly. I attribute clogged atomizers to poor performing batteries. They just can't supply the current and/or voltage continuously. Don't get me wrong. A NEW battery will perform fine for a while, but they will fade in time. This was my biggest mistake- using small batteries!
I agree with everything MickeyRat has told you. Get an eGo or Riva. Of those two I have only used the Joye eGo and can say it is a very fine device. I'm sure the Riva is fine too. You will get consistent voltage for hours and may only need one battery per day if you are not a heavy vaporer
The manual battery is the way to go. You control how long you want to take a drag. Go to Youtube and search "eGo & LR 306". I think this is a great review and it will give you a good understanding of the size and how to use the eGo/Riva. I have used the Boge 510 cartomizers from Litecigusa myself. They work well on the eGo and are absolutely amazing at 6 volts on my Silver Bullet. That shows they are well built I am not affiliated with any supplier, just throwing in my 2 cents.
Cigarette size batteries will last maybe 2 hours as stated above. Compare that to not having a lighter every time you need to light up. Not good.... What I dislike even more about the small batteries is that the performance drops very rapidly. I attribute clogged atomizers to poor performing batteries. They just can't supply the current and/or voltage continuously. Don't get me wrong. A NEW battery will perform fine for a while, but they will fade in time. This was my biggest mistake- using small batteries!
I agree with everything MickeyRat has told you. Get an eGo or Riva. Of those two I have only used the Joye eGo and can say it is a very fine device. I'm sure the Riva is fine too. You will get consistent voltage for hours and may only need one battery per day if you are not a heavy vaporer
The manual battery is the way to go. You control how long you want to take a drag. Go to Youtube and search "eGo & LR 306". I think this is a great review and it will give you a good understanding of the size and how to use the eGo/Riva. I have used the Boge 510 cartomizers from Litecigusa myself. They work well on the eGo and are absolutely amazing at 6 volts on my Silver Bullet. That shows they are well built I am not affiliated with any supplier, just throwing in my 2 cents.
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I actually use an eGo too but, I just bought one of those Riva kits for my sister in-law. According to the guys that measure voltage on these things the Riva is actually supposed to deliver higher voltage more consistently than the eGo.
Below is a review from Scottbee. Looks like the Riva drops to 3.1 under load. Not saying that is bad. You really need to get into the big battery mods to have true 3.7 volts. An 18650 will have a max voltage of 4.2 but drops to 3.7-3.9 under load from my testing with a standard 510 atty. The eGo/Riva is still good in my eyes.
From Scottbee:
"I am not one to give reviews on products until I have had the opportunity to really put them through the ringer.... but all ow me to make some observations regarding the Riva:
1) The packaging is quite nice. Consistent with the type and style of packaging that we have come to expect from this class of product.
2) The batteries are quite attractive and nicely finished. The gold accents (in lieu of chrome) really turned out nice.
3) The button has a rubber/silicone texture and feel. Nicer than the hard plastic units found on similar devices. It has a good feel and a nice action. It is probably a little less prone to "accidental pocket firing" due to the lower profile and slightly smaller size. It is also probably less likely to get "stuck on" due to contamination and molding flash.
4) The LED underneath the button is blue. Looks good.
5) I was expecting these batteries to be "longer" due to the stated 750mAH. They are the same length as the 650mAH class units.
6) As noted in the advertisement, it comes with the "rapid" USB charger and a mains (115VAC) adapter.
7) The "effective" output voltage of the battery is 3.1V... same as the similar units (dern!), and all Joye 510 class batteries.
8) The atties that came with the unit are quite nice. I've never used an Eastmall 510 atty, so I didn't know what to expect. They are in the 2.3Ω range and have an excellent supplemental wick. They are of the "wide band" variety. No internal washer.
More later I'm sure...."
Odd I've seen lots of posts from people that are WAY into the technical side saying that the Riva delivers a true 3.7 V under load. You're right though. For what most of us are doing, it doesn't make a lot of difference.
Scottbee is a well respect member here. He always has such great info! He even shows pics of the batteries and multimeter under a test load. I find it hard to not believe him. Pretty much all batteries drop under load, so nothing new there. See below for his write up or search Battery Voltages--Surprise! This is what prompted me to go with a good mod...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/joye-510/65055-battery-voltages-surprise.html
Oh I know who Scottsbee is and I wasn't doubting you or him. Just a comment because I have seen it said a lot.
We all know him right?!! Love the avatar. There might be some Riva's out there that are designed differently. Who knows...
Khissha,
I know how confusing this is...coming to a forum to find out a decent brand that seems most like a true cigarette. For me, the ritual of smoking is a 25 year habit, and I was looking to replace it with something "similar" feeling. Not just in the smoking/vaping sensation, but how to hold it in my hand, etc....
Everyone means well, but soon all of the recommendations are for anything BUT a cigarette-ish device...buttons to push, juice to drip, big fat "mods" that look like blow torches....LOL
Just last week I received my new Bloog Maxx Fusion. I LOVE it, and it very well replicates the actual experience of smoking a cigarette. Haven't had a cigarette since it arrived. Ordering a basic starter kit with some low-mid nicotine level menthol cartridges and an extra 65mm battery or two would be a fantastic (and easy) start.
If you go to youtube and search for Bloog Maxx Fusion, you will see that both experienced "vapers", and enthusiastic noobs as well give it the thumbs up.
I wish you the best, whatever route you decide to take.
Tracy
I know how confusing this is...coming to a forum to find out a decent brand that seems most like a true cigarette. For me, the ritual of smoking is a 25 year habit, and I was looking to replace it with something "similar" feeling. Not just in the smoking/vaping sensation, but how to hold it in my hand, etc....
Everyone means well, but soon all of the recommendations are for anything BUT a cigarette-ish device...buttons to push, juice to drip, big fat "mods" that look like blow torches....LOL
Just last week I received my new Bloog Maxx Fusion. I LOVE it, and it very well replicates the actual experience of smoking a cigarette. Haven't had a cigarette since it arrived. Ordering a basic starter kit with some low-mid nicotine level menthol cartridges and an extra 65mm battery or two would be a fantastic (and easy) start.
If you go to youtube and search for Bloog Maxx Fusion, you will see that both experienced "vapers", and enthusiastic noobs as well give it the thumbs up.
I wish you the best, whatever route you decide to take.
Tracy
vapor4life.. great prices great flavors great service and a lot of positive feedback and support from users
Thanks everyone for all the great recommendations and advice.. I will try be trying some and report back
I love my Silver Bullet and eGo-T. The eGo-T would be my reccommendation though because it is way less of a hassle. I got mine from altsmoke. It was $65 for the starter kit which includes:
2x - eGo-T 900mAh Mega Battery
2x - eGo-T Custom Atomizer
5x - eGo-T Tanks
1x - eGo Specific USB Battery Charger
1x - USB Wall Adapter
2x - eGo-T 900mAh Mega Battery
2x - eGo-T Custom Atomizer
5x - eGo-T Tanks
1x - eGo Specific USB Battery Charger
1x - USB Wall Adapter
I ordered V4L, hopefully i picked a good one. Has anyone every use the 30 day money back on any of these companies
I use the VaporKing from Vapor4Life and it works great! I know that the Bloog is very similar to the VK from V4L but I think they have only auto batteries. I can't speak for the Ego or Riva because I've never used them, but they are very popular so they're a safe bet. I'll second the recommendation made by other posters:
1. Buy only MANUAL batteries. I really can't stand the autos; they just don't work as well. You'll get used to pushing the button very quickly and it will be a non-issue.
2. If you are trying to quit smoking, buy cartos and juice *with* nicotine. I started at 36mg, which is very high, and now I'm at 24mg... sometimes 18mg. If I had tried to switch to vaping by using zero-nicotine, I guarantee that I'd still be a smoker.
3. V4L has wonderful XL manual batteries that last for hours.
4. Give non-tobacco flavors a try. I thought I'd only like tobacco flavors but that lasted all of a month or so. Now I vape coffee, pancake, black licorice and peppermint for the most part.
Good luck!
1. Buy only MANUAL batteries. I really can't stand the autos; they just don't work as well. You'll get used to pushing the button very quickly and it will be a non-issue.
2. If you are trying to quit smoking, buy cartos and juice *with* nicotine. I started at 36mg, which is very high, and now I'm at 24mg... sometimes 18mg. If I had tried to switch to vaping by using zero-nicotine, I guarantee that I'd still be a smoker.
3. V4L has wonderful XL manual batteries that last for hours.
4. Give non-tobacco flavors a try. I thought I'd only like tobacco flavors but that lasted all of a month or so. Now I vape coffee, pancake, black licorice and peppermint for the most part.
Good luck!
Get the RIVA. Why?
It uses 510 parts. This is the threading type on the battery. The 510 is a very popular type and you can get replacements cheap just about anywhere. You get the extended battery of the Riva, which allows you to vape about 8 hours on one charge. If you decide to try dripping, cartos, and Ego-t system, or just about anything else, they are all compatible with the Riva, so you you don't have to but a whole new kit.
Best of all, the Riva kit is only $30 (35 for the Riva SE) at liberty-flights.com
To me, the Riva is the best value, and allows for many other options if you decide to try different things.
It uses 510 parts. This is the threading type on the battery. The 510 is a very popular type and you can get replacements cheap just about anywhere. You get the extended battery of the Riva, which allows you to vape about 8 hours on one charge. If you decide to try dripping, cartos, and Ego-t system, or just about anything else, they are all compatible with the Riva, so you you don't have to but a whole new kit.
Best of all, the Riva kit is only $30 (35 for the Riva SE) at liberty-flights.com
To me, the Riva is the best value, and allows for many other options if you decide to try different things.
i barely even touch my silver bullet anymore. it has the the same voltage as my ego-t and although it has more mah it just isnt worth the constant dripping. i love being able to fill a tank and just vape without having to mess with refilling and carrying around bottles.
i currently have the v4l king.. day 2 and i am going strong with no analog.. I have an auto battery but am going to order a manual with some juice to refil my cartos today
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