E-cigarettes are 95 percent less harmful than tobacco -UK study

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Figure 6 on page 3 of the second (smaller) PDF is very similar to another I saw linked here a few months ago. It was overall risk to society and had e-cigs and other NRTs virtually tied. Does this ring a bell with anyone? Would love to compare the two charts side by side but I can not find the older one.
 

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Figure 6 on page 3 of the second (smaller) PDF is very similar to another I saw linked here a few months ago. It was overall risk to society and had e-cigs and other NRTs virtually tied. Does this ring a bell with anyone? Would love to compare the two charts side by side but I can not find the older one.
Might this be what you're looking for?
This is a PDF downloadable from the LSE library on "Estimating the harms of nicotine-containing products using the MCDA approach"

The chart is on page 6.

eprints.lse.ac.uk/56631/
 

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Might this be what you're looking for?
This is a PDF downloadable from the LSE library on "Estimating the harms of nicotine-containing products using the MCDA approach"

The chart is on page 6.

eprints.lse.ac.uk/56631/

Yes, thank you! Will try to combine both charts into one picture and post (or link) here later if allowed. Or start a separate thread somewhere else?
 

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here is was i posted in a thread that was closed in the general.

starting about 6 months ago the 95% safer figure started
coming up with more and more frequency. it now seems
to almost be the official estimate of harm reduction compared
to smoking.
i have read literature in the past indicating that when studies
pertaining to the safety of vaping v smoking were averaged out
the estimated safety was about 98.7% safer.
Bill Godshall still says 99.9% safer than smoking.
there are study's that claim 100% safer.
it makes me wonder how this consensus has come about.
i personally go with the 98.7% figure as its averaged and seems to be
reasonable. the 95% figure puts e-cigarettes out of the margin of
error into the realm of still having enough relative harm as to
need strict regulation and medical supervision.
at 98.7% its a least debatable as to the extent and scope
any regulations should be imposed leaning toward the least
restrictive possible. at 99.9% i do not believe any new restrictions
or regulations are even necessary as the regulations concerning
any regular consumer product are sufficient.
at 95% it allows a size 14+ shoe in the door and would allow
all sorts of things to sneak in over time.

regards
mike
 
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The FDA is gonna look awful bad if and when they deem as schemed, in the face of Public Health England's policy.
This is a stunning development imo. I haven't heard of such a comparatively pro vape position by any governmental agency or department in any country. Front page news in half of the British dailies as well. I am pleasantly surprised to say the least. Hoping that U.S. publications will pick up on the story as well.
 

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This is a stunning development imo. I haven't heard of such a comparatively pro vape position by any governmental agency or department in any country. Front page news in half of the British dailies as well. I am pleasantly surprised to say the least. Hoping that U.S. publications will pick up on the story as well.
Can the U.S. media get away with ignoring it? I don't think so, but if they think they can, they probably will try.
 

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The FDA is gonna look awful bad if and when they deem as schemed, in the face of Public Health England's policy.

A bit longer term there could be an example of country where vaping was widely in place. Hopefully it would show a major drop in smoking rates and smoking related illnesses. It would become harder for other countries to maintain the stance that vaping was bad.
 

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