E-juice from unknown sources. A cautionary tale.

[LastoftheBreed]

For those of you new to vaping (like me), I have a word of caution. Like most of you probably have read, there are some cases of dental issues for new PV users. Mine was the "sore bleeding gums" scenario. This surprised me, as even though I was a heavy smoker, I was very conscious of my dental hygiene.

Not a week after starting to use the KR808 knock-off I purchased from a local mall kiosk (and the ejuice sold there as well) I started noticing blood on my toothbrush. Before long it was ALOT of blood and my gums became extremely sore. Oddly this condition is what led me to this forum. Google "e-cigarette and bleeding gums" and you get brought here . Anyway, I read what was posted, assumed it was the whole "hidden gingivitis" and upped my mouthwash use with a daily swish of peroxide, figuring it would kill everything off and things would go back to normal. No such luck.

After ordering some new ejuice from a reputable dealer found here, 2 days later, my gums stopped bleeding as much and were no longer swollen at ALL. A week after that, all better. I realize now it must have been something in the ejuice purchased from this kiosk vendor that was causing the problem. Who knows what I'd been sucking into my system. Ugh!

Word to the wise for all Noobs...order quality juice from suppliers with a reputation that you can check out. I feel like an idiot as I'm the MOST .... guy I know, and research EVERYTHING. Let this one slip right past my radar though.

 

[moonchild]

Wow. That's seriously scary... I don't want to even think what was in that stuff...

 

[dormouse]

Was your second juice a PG/VG blend? When you have medium to high nicotine in 100% PG juice it can be pretty harsh on the mouth - some people have gotten sore tongue and throat and even lungs, and a few got mouth sores. It's the nicotine that does it - it's a skin irritant. But a juice with (for example) 70pg/30vg will smooth out the harshness enough for most people.

Many hardware sellers just sell the PG juices from China, or carts prefilled in China which are typically filled with 100% PG juice.

 

[UntamedRose]

That is concerning. You wouldnt happened to have held onto that bottle??

Just wondering if we can possibly identify what caused the issue.

 

[slumdog]

That is concerning. You wouldnt happened to have held onto that bottle??

Just wondering if we can possibly identify what caused the issue.

Yeah, to know the manufacturer of that juice would be a great help to the forum, we could then make a caution post...buyer beware!!!!

 

[Rosa]

It sounds incriminating BUT (just to play devil's advocate) My understanding of the gum bleeding thing is that your gums are finally getting blood flow returning after however many years and it will eventually pass on it's own. Is it possible AT ALL that your gums were just running their normal course of bloody healing and the timing was just right for it to seem as if this mall juice was the culprit?

I mean, of course the only way to test it would be to vape it again and see if the bleeding recurs, but nobody would want to do that (I wouldn't).

I used to listen to DR. Dean Odell quite often and one thing he said was that people have the misconception that nyquil/dayquil cures their cold because they take it for 4-5 days and then their cold is gone, but they don't realize that a cold will naturally run it's course in that amount of time without any medicinal intervention.

AGAIN: just playing devils advocate.

 

[OaklandCA]

yikes! I actually had a horrible scary bleeding gums reaction to a prescription medication a few years back--the mouth/gums is a very complicated system and the dentist i ran to was clueless. It took a lot of back tracking to figure out the cause. and i've had some misc. mouth issues with all manner of prescription and OTC nicotine products over the years. I was very leery of bad juice--did get one random stinker--but serious gum bleeding is not likely to be the reaction to quitting smoking (IMHO and it would be a help if the OP could pass on the suspect brand (even if not the public board) to the forum moderators.

if you ever have had real profuse gum bleeding it is a very freaky and intense thing to experience and when i had it the dentists etc. hadn't seen it that often--so i don't think the OP is talking about a typical smoker healing syndrome (like for instance coughing up all kinds of uck anyway--

perhaps the OP could chime in on just how bad it got-- i might be relating it to my own pretty extreme condition and it was just a little puffy soreness--did you look like a vampire after a fresh feeding after just a moderate tooth brushing?

 

[Rosa]

That makes sense. I haven't heard of extreme gum bleeding yet, just the garden variety pink toothbrush kind.