Hey, relatively new to e-cigs and purchasing juice. Any insight into what accounts for a good throat hit? I have tried cotton based cartomizers and have now switched to some kind of reservoir cartomizer (RoyalSmokers) via Bruce from Springfield, NJ. Produces great smoke but sometimes the throat hit tastes sort of stale and scratchy in the back of the mouth. Any insight? Could this just be the juice?
E-Juice. What accounts for good throat hit?
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are you looking to lessen the throat hit?
lower nic levels (which may not be an option for you) and less PG/more VG can lessen the throat hit. you didn't mention what pg/vg ratio you have or if you're using 100% of either. what kind of e-cig do you have? that can make a difference as well. we need more info to really get an answer for you.
lower nic levels (which may not be an option for you) and less PG/more VG can lessen the throat hit. you didn't mention what pg/vg ratio you have or if you're using 100% of either. what kind of e-cig do you have? that can make a difference as well. we need more info to really get an answer for you.
Hey, I have a similar issue. Check out the thread I posted http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/123709-e2-xl-cartos-no-flavor.html
People suggested me using the ptb mod, and it works better.
People suggested me using the ptb mod, and it works better.
A good throat hit to me is when I can feel the vaper going down and know when its time to stop dragging because I felt how much went down. I don't believe the rumor that nic levels change throat hit. Although I do believe higher nic levels burn the throat.
Nic levels CAN affect TH but usually not as much as
type of juice (some flavors 'feel' as if they hit harder , like menthols and cinamons)
voltage of PV
Amount of PG in juice
type of juice (some flavors 'feel' as if they hit harder , like menthols and cinamons)
voltage of PV
Amount of PG in juice
Yeah, I agree. I think throat hit is something not everyone understands. It depends on what you smoked.
I always smoked full flavored menthols and a buddy smoked ultralight non-menthols. Just for giggles, we traded once. The entire time he was bent over coughing and wheezing, I was continually touching the end of the cigarette to check if it was actually lit.
I've read where people on here say, "For good throat hit, lung inhale. That gives you good enough throat hit to make you cough.", and always thought, "That's not throat hit. That's throat irritation. Huff a handful of powdered sugar or flour and I'll bet you'll cough too."
From my own experience, throat depends on the following:
Flavor - no way to generalize because I've been surprised by some, but some flavors have better throat hit than others. It's just an experimental process.
How wet the atty is - I use cartomizers so don't have a separate atty, but have noticed that the first couple of hits from a freshly filled carto tend to have the best throat hit.
Heat - Inhaling slowly (super, super slowly) allows the vapor time to heat up more and that adds throat hit in my experience.
I think this is the best way to ensure a better throat hit. Faster drags seem to leave me feeling very much like I didn't inhale anything at all. A good, wet (but unflooded) atty also seems to help. But no matter what, a nearly drained battery just won't produce as much TH as a fresh charge will.
How you inhale has a marginal effect on TH. Throat hit is increased by the nic level and mostly by the warmth of the vapor. Warmth of the vapor is increased by supplying more power to the atomzer. That is done by more battery output. (or reducing the resistence of the atomizer). So if you want consistent, long lasting throat hit, you need to move up to a 5 or 6 volt PV. It is really just that simple. All the other "stuff" can't come close to providing the consistency of higher electrical output.
Drip 24-36 mg menthol...nuff said ps. I hate menthol but it works for oh almost a year now
Nic level seems to have little to no effect on TH for me. I vape 35mg, 24mg, and 18mg from various vendors. I find the weakest TH comes from the 24mg juices I buy from Halo and the biggest TH comes from the 24mg and 18mg juices from Johnson Creek. I get my 35mg juice from Vermont Vapor and, while I like the taste, TH and vapor production on that juice is just marginally better than Halo's.
However, when I take long, slow drags, the VT Vapor and Halo juices' TH improve. But no matter what, the strongest TH for me comes when my batteries are fresh. I vape at 3.7. If, as is commonly stated, 5v and 6v lead to bigger a TH, that would indicate to me that voltage and battery power is the main consideration when looking for that "ultimate" TH and things like nic level are more of a subjective factor.
However, when I take long, slow drags, the VT Vapor and Halo juices' TH improve. But no matter what, the strongest TH for me comes when my batteries are fresh. I vape at 3.7. If, as is commonly stated, 5v and 6v lead to bigger a TH, that would indicate to me that voltage and battery power is the main consideration when looking for that "ultimate" TH and things like nic level are more of a subjective factor.
Ditto on Johnson Creek, TH is very good with their Domestic Blend or Original, Backwoods Brew Applewood Tobacco is awesome as well!
I agree completely. The best throat hits I've had are when the battery is fully charged, which probably means it has more power to heat the liquid. (And if that liquid has enough PG in it, THs are fine.) I haven't done any tests relating to nicotine level.
However, I recently bought some liquids from a supplier and could receive NO throat hits using fully charged batteries (and that was with 100% PG, 24mg, double shots, and aggressive THs choice on all six bottles). So, now, thinking back, battery power is definitely a factor, but there has to be other factors, which is probably the amount of PG and other ingredients used when it was mixed and how much of each, probably how long the liquid has aged (or steeped), how old your atomizer and/or cartomizers are and the quality of the atty and/or carto, and on and on.
Here's an example: I received my order from FSUSA today -- RY4 and a sample of RY5. I filled a bunch of cartos with the RY4, mixed with about 1/3 apple, 1/3 RY4, and 1/3 Glycerin. Throat hits and flavor were fine vaping it right away. (Thank God I received it today and didn't have to wait until Tuesday!)
Right now, I'm vaping (and testing) the RY5 sample (tastes like Maple), with about 50% RY5, 25% Apple, and 25% Glycerin. I'm not getting any throat hits so far (using a 1000mAh eGo that has at least 10 more hours of life). So, maybe it needs to age. I don't know.
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Yeah, atomizer or cartomizer quality and age is a definite factor as well. I usually get 2-3 days off a carto (a month or more off an atomizer), and when they start to die out, both vapor and TH drop off considerably, even with a fully charged battery.
I read in a review of Backwoods Brew that they have a special formula that leads to more of both, so individual vendors' juice formula has to play a part.
The bottom line is that all of these factors affect both vapor and TH to some degree: nicotine level, battery charge, voltage, age and quality of carto/atty, blend of ingredients in the juice, personal preferences, and even the vaping device itself.
I guess that's part of why so many of us spend so much money on the "hobby". It gets expensive chasing the perfect vape!
Nic level does affect TH, but more important is the PG/VG mix and atty or carto resistance. I have a couple of juices that feel like cotton fluff on my regular attys, but when I switch to LR, it becomes a nice vape.
A lower carto resistence is the same as increasing power to the heating coil. There is only one consistent factor to increasing throat hit and that is warmth of the vapor caused by how the atomizer coil is heated. That is why 5 and 6 volt PV's will ALWAYS provide better, more consistent throat hit.
I know that lowering resistance and increasing voltage have the same effect, but I only use 3.7v right now, so my only option is to use LR attys and cartos.
The way I keep buying stuff, though, I'm sure I'll be trying HV in the not too distant future. Thank God vaping is cheaper (HUH!!!????) or I'd be broke already!!
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