E-Liquid Saftey

[mjmurphy]

Do you think e-liquid manufactures should post the test results of their e-liquids online so that people can make a more educated decision about what they are purchasing? Or is this over kill? Should we just take their word that they have had their juices tested?

 

[Grimwald]

I think it's inevitable that juices will have to have ingredient labels. I think I'm good with that. I don't know what kind of "test" results would interest me.

 

[miamc12321]

Eh, me either. We already know what's in a lot of it... other than that, I don't know...

 

[wonner]

Do you think e-liquid manufactures should post the test results of their e-liquids online so that people can make a more educated decision about what they are purchasing? Or is this over kill? Should we just take their word that they have had their juices tested?

Many won't even tell you where their located, or their QC practices.

I can't think of five vendors I would trust.

But yes they should. At the very very least.

 

[Lessifer]

Tested for what? Just curious, I'd like to think makers are honest about their ingredients, even if not their specific recipe, but what would you want the juice tested for exactly?

 

[tony604]

There should only be 3 ingredients in it. The only thing I can really think of being concerned about is them messing up the nicotine levels. But yeah, you never know what else can be in the liquid.

 

[K31Scout]

I want to know if Diacetyl, Acetoin and or Acetyl Propionyl are in there. We know these are not good for inhalation but are present in many creamy, custardy flavors. They blend well with tobaccos and are probably in most e liquid these days. I DIY and avoid flavors with that stuff. I also want to know at what temperature a flavor used breaks down into toxic fumes like formaldehyde.

 

[Warpigs]

Been vaping well over a year and can say I have not had any major problems with my juices (other taking a chamce on a flavor and hating it). I buy from a a handful of vendors and seems gtg for me.

 

[mjmurphy]

Acetyl Proprionyl, Diacetyl, Acetoine are all ingredients that are used to create flavors such as creamy, caramel, butterscotch, any of the custard flavors and a few others I cannot think of. They can cause irreversible damage to the lungs. Not all e-liquids have these ingredients, but many do. It requires special testing to determine if those ingredients are present and then find a substitute. There are a number of highly ethical e-liquid manufactures that have done the testing and have made the changes, but I would say, and this is just speculation on my part, that most have not.

 

[Jlowap]

I don't believe meny commercial vendors use these anymore. I believe (or want to) they've moved on

 

[MadMeathead]

Welcome to the forum.

Currently I will only buy from three vendors who test and post the results. I don't always buy the tested products as not all the products have been tested yet, however it makes ME feel better. I don't vape for them.

Call it confidence in disclosure.

Regards

 

[Traijan]

Like said above I think it will be inevitable that they will have to eventually have the full ingredients listed on the bottles although it may have to be so small to fit on the bottle that we'll all need magnifying glasses to read it

 

[K31Scout]

^^or just a data sheet in the box.

 

[Aetohatir]

the producers of the e-liquids are usually very honest already anyway. usually all the ingredients (expect for the aroma) are on the liquid bottles themselves. We know that PG, VG and Water are basically harmless, why add any... results? It's all basic knowlege.

 

[Lessifer]

If the flavorings themselves have been tested, and it is known which ones contain questionable chemicals and which ones don't, does a vendor who only uses ingredients that don't contain questionable chemicals still need to "test" their liquids?

 

[klynnn]

This whole problem can be solved by making your own liquids. Since we are becoming a third world country maybe people should start learning how to survive without someone else telling them it's okay .

 

[dahlialady]

Do you think e-liquid manufactures should post the test results of their e-liquids online so that people can make a more educated decision about what they are purchasing? Or is this over kill? Should we just take their word that they have had their juices tested?

This should be on every label...

1. Poison. Keep out of reach of children and pets.
2. Nicotine content.
3. PG/VG content.

 

[MadMeathead]

the producers of the e-liquids are usually very honest already anyway. usually all the ingredients (expect for the aroma) are on the liquid bottles themselves. We know that PG, VG and Water are basically harmless, why add any... results? It's all basic knowlege.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...thers-milk-thread-suicide-bunny-e-liquid.html

My advice as a newbie myself. Read that thread. every page. Follow the links. Google the terms you don't get. Pay attention to Dr. F's study and how many samples were out of compliance.

Look at the dates of the posts then ask yourself "Has the industry proven it can self regulate? and "If I want to continue to vape without the Government/BT/BP trodding all over me how can I stop errors like this from happening?"

Then make up your own mind.

If an e-liquid manufacturer wants my money, and by extension my lungs, then they must have my trust. They get my confidence by following some sort of testing protocol. They get my trust by posting results, identifying issues, and following up on those issues.

Regards,