Eagerly awaiting the P3.
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If the P3 turns out to be an "extreme duty" version, then I'm already sold.
The 2.5 is already tough as is, but a ProVari designed for use outside, in rough terrain/conditions, is just my style.
The 2.5 is already tough as is, but a ProVari designed for use outside, in rough terrain/conditions, is just my style.
To be honest, now that I have the Dani Extreme I no longer care if Provape ever releases a 3rd generation ProVari. I used to think the ProVari was the dogs kahuna's but the Dani is a better mod in every way.
Glad you like the Dani. Looks fine.
But after looking at the specs I would never buy one. Major flaw for me is the .5 watt adjustment. Not fine enough. Any device that is going to be Watts Only, no variable voltage adjustment, needs to be in Point ( . ) one ( 1 ) or Point 2 increments. Or have it do both VW & Vv and the VV in .1 increments.
Best of luck to you with the Dani and Happy vaping.
Oh and the Dani was probably less expensive than a Provari for you in the Netherlands.
The Dani looks nice. I'm glad you like it!
I personally don't understand the VW craze. Every VW mod I've used seems sluggish compared to a Provari. And, perhaps I'm more mathematically inclined than most, but doing a quick ohms calculation isn't that hard when I need to change voltage.
I personally don't understand the VW craze. Every VW mod I've used seems sluggish compared to a Provari. And, perhaps I'm more mathematically inclined than most, but doing a quick ohms calculation isn't that hard when I need to change voltage.
The Dani is in no way sluggish and it's even smaller than the Provari. It also heats up the coil faster wich -I've been told- is because it uses alternating current.
Here you see the Dani and ProVari both with a 18650 battery.
Here you see the Dani and ProVari both with a 18650 battery.
Yeah I don't get it either. It is the same. Raise the volts with the same ohm coil and the wattage raises. Raise the watts with the same ohm coil and the voltage raises. Same thing.
If the voltage or wattage setting you are using isn't giving you a good vape then raise or lower that setting. Seems simple enough to me. Maybe I'm missing something.
Now we may hear from people saying the Wattage setting stays the same if you change coil ohms. OK but why would I want that? If I was using a 1.2, 1.3, 1.4 ohm coil at say 11 watts why would I want that same 11 watts if I switched to either a .9 or a 2.0+ ohm coil.
I do love the tube on the Dani. Always hated the crop circle design on the Provari.
Usually when I'm trying a new carto / PV I will aim for 8 watts, as that is usually a good starting point, but I always end up fine tuning it up or down.
The biggest advantage of VW that I can see is that it maintains the desired wattage setting for you over the life of your carto / atty. Resistance (ohms) will change slightly as the coil ages, so VW monitors that change for you and changes the volts automatically to maintain your desired wattage. I, like you, just prefer to do it by taste. I rarely check the the carto's resistance from the menu, I just increase or decrease the voltage when I feel it's necessary. I usually end up doing the same thing with a VW mod with a 2-3 week old coil anyway, but some people prefer the automation of it.
If Provape is producing a VW only does that mean all of you that "don't get it" won't be adding one to their arsenal?
I can't help but comment on the "I don't get it" posts about VW.
Dare I say it is much like the "I don't get it" about the Provari? Try one that is reasonably accurate with fine tuning, put together by a good modder, and you very well may change your tune, much like hundreds or perhaps thousands have with the Provari.
One turns up or turns down the volume. If one prefers the benefits of a vari, it really shouldn't matter if it's watts or voltage that is being changed.
Back to the OP's topic --- Yes, I am eagerly awaiting the P3. I am very interested in seeing what Provape's been up to for the past couple of years developing it.
I can't help but comment on the "I don't get it" posts about VW.
Dare I say it is much like the "I don't get it" about the Provari? Try one that is reasonably accurate with fine tuning, put together by a good modder, and you very well may change your tune, much like hundreds or perhaps thousands have with the Provari.
One turns up or turns down the volume. If one prefers the benefits of a vari, it really shouldn't matter if it's watts or voltage that is being changed.
Back to the OP's topic --- Yes, I am eagerly awaiting the P3. I am very interested in seeing what Provape's been up to for the past couple of years developing it.
I don’t really get VW either, but that won’t stop me from buying a P3 if it has it. Provape “gets it”. IMHO, they won’t put out a P3 that doesn’t work well and last a long time.
J.R.
My only issue with the VW mods I've tried (briefly) was there seemed to be a slight pause after pressing the fire button before the device would actually fire. I assume this was because the device had to take a split second to figure out what the resistance of the atty was before providing the correct amount of voltage to produce the desired wattage. I'm not familiar enough with this type of device to confirm whether this is a trait of all VW devices, and it's not a deal-breaker by any means...it was just slightly annoying.
Hopefully if the P3 does VW it'll also offer a VV mode. That would make everyone happy!
Agreed. I attribute any delay in releasing the product to their obsession with quality control, which makes me want the thing even more without even seeing it.
All this talk of an impending P3, harrumph I say.
The tease at the end of the Provari tour video is just flat out mean.
I've got all I need with respect to batteries, only future purchases required would be liquids, heads and wire.
But noooo.
Regardless if this P3 is improved in some manner over my 2.5 or if it has new for Provape functions the tease is on!
I won't need it but I'll prolly want it all the same. Way to keep me broke Provape (-;
The tease at the end of the Provari tour video is just flat out mean.
I've got all I need with respect to batteries, only future purchases required would be liquids, heads and wire.
But noooo.
Regardless if this P3 is improved in some manner over my 2.5 or if it has new for Provape functions the tease is on!
I won't need it but I'll prolly want it all the same. Way to keep me broke Provape (-;
Well...the wait for the P3 will be a little easier now. I couldn't resist and just bought a blem 2.5 in satin silver (they're still up in clearance at $30 off). Blue LED with extension cap and two 18650 - 2000 mAh batteries. That should hold me over for a bit.
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Haha. I do my best not to be wasteful by collecting things I don't need. One P3 with a 2.5 backup will suit me just fine (and maybe 4 or 5 tanks to go with them), but I can see how it could get completely out of hand fast.
I'm so glad I did not wait around for the P3 and ordered mine in January (I think). But I can understand the OP dilemma.
The tease and silence treatment is very frustrating indeed. I really don't need another ProVari, I've got a backup for my backup
Still curious about what they are up to and hope that it is really worth the suspense.Here's what Zen had to say about this type of marketing way back when the ProVari pre-orders were still being shipped out, it made me chuckle and ponder why the reasoning behind this type of tease marketing...
Judging by the numbers of threads about the upcoming "surprise", this marketing ploy does have some value in that it creates an interest in the release, but the downside that I see is that when people start imagining what this new tremendous thing will be, if it doesn't meet their unsubstantiated expectations, it could have a negative effect on some consumers.
I look at it as more of a net-neutral kind of thing..
For example, it gets people off ProVape's back for a while, who constantly bug them on Facebook, for instance.. "Yeah, yeah.. we got something coming.. Hold yer horses, already.."
It also helps prepare some people to make any adjustments to vape budgets.. Holding off on a possibly-unnecessary new topper, maybe, so they can push that dough forward towards a P3..
Or it can help sway somebody who's looking to get a new PV, but are torn between a ProVari & something else, so they hold off on any decision until the big day to see what it might be..
Of course, there are all the negatives, as well..
Finally, perhaps something unexpected happened on the manufacturing level that's delaying the launch.. that ProVape wasn't planning on going this long since pbusardo's tour video...
All I know is I'm holding off on a gun metal ZenKote until I see what the P3 is all about.. Price, form, function, specs, etc..
If it's what I think it's going to be (a ProVari Xtreme), I'd possibly be very interested, depending on the above.. I'm not at a place these days where 3 ProVarii is an option, so I'm heavily weighing the pros & cons with this purchase for #2...
And getting rid of my current one is out of the question!
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