Good
thread Barry!
Well, (IMHO) ECF has it's place... it's where our new Zonie vapers will come first and (hopefully) eventually find us when they're looking for more info. on e-cigs on the internet. Also you're going to find all the new product info., legislative news and product warnings on ECF. Everyone also needs to post that kind of stuff as news links into the FB group to keep people updated.
I hope everyone will consider helping to keep our VIP forum active, volunteer to do searches in the forum for our Arizona town names in the forum Google search once in a while (I call it Zonie Stalking, LOL) and send PM's to new local people from here that you find in the searches or that you see posting in the forums to invite them to participate in our social group forum
AND on our FB group.
Pay it forward...
The nice thing about our FB group is that we don't have many rules. Common
sense, keep it fairly clean

, have a little respect for each other, and no spamming from members and suppliers (but all members are able to offer items for sale or trade and announce business sales). On the other hand, ECF has lots of rules for obvious reasons of sheer membership volume and problems with keeping a reign on some idiots, so must make rules for Social Groups and general conduct in the forum to protect it's income from registered (paying) suppliers.
FB isn't better...
it's just different.
By the way, you can set preferences in our forum to be given an immediate notice (via email) on any forum activity, new
threads, etc. PM me if you can't figure it out.
I miss the fun threads here in our forum. If you don't know what I'm talking about, take a walk back through almost 3 years of our threads in the VIP forum... good times.
Just my

(ok, maybe 5 cents)
