Ecigs and lack of nicotine buzz vs nicotine patches

[carpedebass]

I had to switch back to analogs for a day when I misplaced my little kit and lost all my batteries aside from the one I was using and it died. The first cigarette I smoked made feel VERY uncomfortable (though you may have enjoyed it). I didn't get a buzz, I got extreme vertigo. My ENTIRE body was tingling. I don't think it had anything to do with asphyxiation. I don't really know what it was, but I know it was waaaay too much for me to enjoy. I was glad when I found my batts and had smoked up the pack so I could go back to vaping. I'd rather have no buzz than feel that again.

I know that that wasn't in my head.

LOL...no it was likely not in your head. It likely was caused by asphyxiation combined with the other thousands of crap chemicals being re-released into your system.

 

[GIMike]

LOL...no it was likely not in your head. It likely was caused by asphyxiation

Extreme vertigo

combined with the other thousands of crap chemicals being re-released into your system.

tingling throughout my entire body, literally, i think i felt my hair and toenails tingle

Luckily, as we've all experienced before, those things didn't last long past the first cigarette.

 

[simply me]

I know i'm getting enough nicotin because i'm not running through the house like a lunatic. I think the buzz i get is the hand to mouth motion, which is what a lot of us are really adicted to.

 

[markfm]

The classic buzz off a cigarette comes from a combination of carbon monoxide (oxygen deprivation -- hemoglobin bonds to CO better than O2) and freebase nicotine (faster uptake). PVs don't provide either of those. Also, cigs contain some other alkaloids that you don't get in many eliquids (there is one group producing small quantities of WTA -- whole tobacco alkaloid -- eliquid, which some people craving WTAs have had positive initial results with).

For my sample population of 1 (me ), I know that however well or poorly PVs work they do so good enough for me. I'm also confident that I noticed a difference based on the mg/ml of the eliquid -- I couldn't stop with 16 - 18 mg/ml, when I picked up 24 mg/ml I was good most of the time, but needed some 30 mg/ml early in the morning to take the edge off. Over time I got to just 24 mg/ml, and recently I've dropped to 20, then 18. I have no issue still vaping 24 at times (I PIF eliquid, and test anything I make), but after detoxing from the other crud from cigs I'm finding a gradual decrease in nic to be easy.