eGO loses taste quickly

Status
Not open for further replies.

Bronze

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Aug 19, 2012
40,240
187,949
I lose taste after two big hits off my eGO using the standard 650mah battery. I have to let it sit for a few minutes before the taste comes back. I'm wondering if the bridge gets too hot and dries out. Furthermore, I wonder if I use a Twist battery with adjustable output and lower the voltage if that will help. Any suggestions?
 

jcwest

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Aug 16, 2012
448
507
43
Pontotoc MS
A little more details on what your are using would be helpful.. Are you using a clearomizer, cartomizer, atomizer, fluxomizer, tank system or a mixture of the 5 lol.. I have found taking a "Off Hit" meaning.. Hitting on my ego twist with a good pull to saturate the wick really well before pressing the button to start vaping avoids some of the dry burnt hits.. I prefer CE3 bottom coil Phoenix Fluxomizers as i cant seem to find a system that wicks up to keep the liquid saturating the atomizer as much as i chain cape.. So if you could please clarify what you are using with your ego and it would be alot easier to help identify the problem..
 

Bronze

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Aug 19, 2012
40,240
187,949
A little more details on what your are using would be helpful.. Are you using a clearomizer, cartomizer, atomizer, fluxomizer, tank system or a mixture of the 5 lol.. I have found taking a "Off Hit" meaning.. Hitting on my ego twist with a good pull to saturate the wick really well before pressing the button to start vaping avoids some of the dry burnt hits.. I prefer CE3 bottom coil Phoenix Fluxomizers as i cant seem to find a system that wicks up to keep the liquid saturating the atomizer as much as i chain cape.. So if you could please clarify what you are using with your ego and it would be alot easier to help identify the problem..


jc...I'm using a Joye eGO with the standard 510 atty and a cart with Fluval stuffing in it. I drip alot but when it is not convenient to drip then I just fill a cart and go with that. It seems less of a problem when I drip. I know that Fluval probably doesn't wick up very fast and that is likely a problem. But I wonder if I had less battery output if that would help.
 

Forkeh

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Feb 16, 2012
910
660
California
Your battery isn't the problem love, it's the carts you're using. They don't hold very much, and dry out quickly (and unevenly in my experience). When you let it sit, the juice has a chance to redistribute to the tip where the atty heats it up. My advice? Ditch the carts, really only technology. They're a pain. Try out some cartomizers, which are basically the evolution of the cart/atty set up. The atty is built into the polyfil, and the heating element runs through the entire carto, so the liquid vapes out more evenly. You could try clearos too; I strongly prefer them to cartos, but they are a bit more time consuming to fill. For most of them, you need either a needle tip bottle cap, or syringe. The flavor is worth the work in my opinion, however.

Since you've got an Ego, I suggest you give Low Res cartos/clearos/attys a try. They mimic higher voltages.
 

Bronze

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Aug 19, 2012
40,240
187,949
Your battery isn't the problem love, it's the carts you're using. They don't hold very much, and dry out quickly (and unevenly in my experience). When you let it sit, the juice has a chance to redistribute to the tip where the atty heats it up. My advice? Ditch the carts, really only technology. They're a pain. Try out some cartomizers, which are basically the evolution of the cart/atty set up. The atty is built into the polyfil, and the heating element runs through the entire carto, so the liquid vapes out more evenly. You could try clearos too; I strongly prefer them to cartos, but they are a bit more time consuming to fill. For most of them, you need either a needle tip bottle cap, or syringe. The flavor is worth the work in my opinion, however.

Since you've got an Ego, I suggest you give Low Res cartos/clearos/attys a try. They mimic higher voltages.


Eh Forkeh...thanks for the info. I have been researching cartos today because I have others telling me the same thing. I drip a lot but there are those times it is not convenient so I have to have a cart. My biggest concern is if the cartos will deliver flavor on every hit or does it have the same problems with wicking as the polyfilled carts? Do they last long? How many times can I fill them? Other performance issues? Etc... Thanks for your reply. Ed
 

Forkeh

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Feb 16, 2012
910
660
California
Eh Forkeh...thanks for the info. I have been researching cartos today because I have others telling me the same thing. I drip a lot but there are those times it is not convenient so I have to have a cart. My biggest concern is if the cartos will deliver flavor on every hit or does it have the same problems with wicking as the polyfilled carts? Do they last long? How many times can I fill them? Other performance issues? Etc... Thanks for your reply. Ed

In my experience the cartos don't have a problem wicking at all, they just vape until they're running dry, in which case you just have to refill them. Some prefer to top off their cartos every so often between fills, when I use cartos, I never feel the need. They should deliver flavor on ever puff just fine. I do recommend letting the cartos sit for a few minutes, just after filling to let the material completely saturate.

How long they last and how many times you can refill them just depends. The biggest factors in how long you can go before refilling are how often you use your vape, how long of puffs you take, and what voltage you vape at. If you vape a lot, take very long pulls, or vape at high voltage, you'll go through a carto faster than if you toned any of the above down, just like any juice delivery method.

Some juices kill cartos faster than others, some heavy VG juices tend to kill cartos faster than PG dominant juices too. And then there are some juices that kill cartos quickly for no apparent reason. How heavy you vape, and how careful you are not to run the cartos dry are factors as well. And then some cartos will die faster than others for no apparent reason, just like atties. I've had cartos that died the second time I filled them, and I've had cartos that never died, I just threw out when they started to taste funny (which will also depends on juice, how you store them, etc).

As for performance issues, there's really none that I can think of. Cartos are pretty low maintenance as far as juice delivery methods. The only reason I don't use them primarily is because I feel like I get better flavor from Clearos, but plenty of vapors don't think that. Probably the majority, I don't know. Cartos are probably the most problem free system you can use. Filling's super easy, they don't leak much (everything leaks some, everything). There's nothing to pinch off wicking, and they're cheap.
 
Last edited:

teamscon

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jun 3, 2012
496
75
NC
Try vivi nova tank .. Why do ppl suggest cartos for a newbie? Waaay more complicated then the vivi nova tank. Ive been using the same vivi nova thank, and have only had to buy 3 extra heads for it in 3 months.

So thats 18.00 for my vivi setup and its lasted 3 months with no end in sight. I suspect ill have to buy more heads in a month or so ... 2.00 per easy peesy :) Plus, I can clean the whole atty/tank, dry burn, and be vaping again 5mins later no down time at all.

-btw im from rural hall NC ... about 20mins away from wake forest.
 
Last edited:

teamscon

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jun 3, 2012
496
75
NC
Are you serious? How are cartos more complicated than a Nova?

Whats complicated about the vivi? Ive had no issues at all ... on the other hand ive tried cartos etc and nothing but leaking/dry hit trouble. Even the local vape shop doesnt sell cartos to a newb because they know they will be nothing but trouble.

I dont see many ppl complaining their vivi is giving nothing but dry hits.

Lets not mention they only last 5-7 days or so .. And the priming with a needle ... and the dry hits .. and the leaking .. and the 2 day dry period.. ugh never again for me.

If cartos are for you have at it. This is just my opinion and I try to be more blunt then others to keep life interesting. Who wants to read the same stuff over and over?
 
Last edited:

Forkeh

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Feb 16, 2012
910
660
California
Whats complicated about the vivi? Ive had no issues at all ... on the other hand ive tried cartos etc and nothing but leaking/dry hit trouble. Even the local vape shop doesnt sell cartos to a newb because they know they will be nothing but trouble.

I dont see many ppl complaining their vivi is giving nothing but dry hits.

Lets not mention they only last 5-7 days or so .. And the priming with a needle ... and the dry hits .. and the leaking .. and the 2 day dry period.. ugh never again for me.

If cartos are for you have at it. This is just my opinion and I try to be more blunt then others to keep life interesting. Who wants to read the same stuff over and over?

Nothing's terribly complicated about the Nova, but for a newbie, it may certainly look intimidating, the replaceable head and what not, plus silicone cover can pinch the wick, and though it's a REALLY easy fix, a newbie might not know how to deal with it. They're not hard to use, but mechanically, they are significantly more complicated than a carto. And there's always the risk of a bad, or poorly placed gasket which would make the tank leak, what beginner is going to know how to deal with that?

Cartos are very simple and very basic. You just drip into them, wait about 10 minutes, and check to see if you need to top off. If you do it right, there are no dry hits. I've never primed with a needle, never felt the need. If your carto was leaking, you either overfilled it, or dripped down the center post. I just think cartos are much simpler for a newb, and generally, simpler equals better. Would you give a VV mod to someone who'd never touched a vape before? They're not hard to use, love them. But daunting if you don't know what you're doing.

I also never said I prefered cartos. Clearos are my preference, but I also think they're a bit too involved to primarily recommend to someone who's new. It's just my opinion that the less there is to go wrong, but better the chance of success one will have when first starting out. All of the other cool stuff can come later.
 

teamscon

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Jun 3, 2012
496
75
NC
I would say the clearo is a good choice for a newb also. I gave one to my mom on a ego setup .. Gave her a 5min class and bam she was a vaping beast!! She replaces it every two weeks for 5.00 and it works fine for her. My wife also uses clearo's. She doesnt like the vivi because its so big. Theres also the vivi mini i need to try out. I dont even know if they use the same replacement heads as the standard vivi.

Forkeh, you tried the vivi mini? Clearos are also a good option.
 

Forkeh

Super Member
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Feb 16, 2012
910
660
California
I would say the clearo is a good choice for a newb also. I gave one to my mom on a ego setup .. Gave her a 5min class and bam she was a vaping beast!! She replaces it every two weeks for 5.00 and it works fine for her. My wife also uses clearo's. She doesnt like the vivi because its so big. Theres also the vivi mini i need to try out. I dont even know if they use the same replacement heads as the standard vivi.

Forkeh, you tried the vivi mini? Clearos are also a good option.

But your mom had you to guide her along, the OP might not have a IRL buddy who can help him out. That's my concern here. Too easy to get frustrated and give up with complicated equipment.

No I haven't tried the mini, probably won't for a good long while. My LT bit the dust so I don't really have anything to put cool stuff on until I scrap together the funds for a new mod....and decide what I want. I think deciding will be the hardest part. For now I've got some basic 510 pens *sigh*.
 

Bronze

ECF Guru
ECF Veteran
Verified Member
Aug 19, 2012
40,240
187,949
In my experience the cartos don't have a problem wicking at all, they just vape until they're running dry, in which case you just have to refill them. Some prefer to top off their cartos every so often between fills, when I use cartos, I never feel the need. They should deliver flavor on ever puff just fine. I do recommend letting the cartos sit for a few minutes, just after filling to let the material completely saturate.

How long they last and how many times you can refill them just depends. The biggest factors in how long you can go before refilling are how often you use your vape, how long of puffs you take, and what voltage you vape at. If you vape a lot, take very long pulls, or vape at high voltage, you'll go through a carto faster than if you toned any of the above down, just like any juice delivery method.

Some juices kill cartos faster than others, some heavy VG juices tend to kill cartos faster than PG dominant juices too. And then there are some juices that kill cartos quickly for no apparent reason. How heavy you vape, and how careful you are not to run the cartos dry are factors as well. And then some cartos will die faster than others for no apparent reason, just like atties. I've had cartos that died the second time I filled them, and I've had cartos that never died, I just threw out when they started to taste funny (which will also depends on juice, how you store them, etc).

As for performance issues, there's really none that I can think of. Cartos are pretty low maintenance as far as juice delivery methods. The only reason I don't use them primarily is because I feel like I get better flavor from Clearos, but plenty of vapors don't think that. Probably the majority, I don't know. Cartos are probably the most problem free system you can use. Filling's super easy, they don't leak much (everything leaks some, everything). There's nothing to pinch off wicking, and they're cheap.

Forkeh....you made it clear as mud! Hahaha. No actually, that was an excellent reply. You laid out all the factors beautifully. Actually, as the night wears on, I am leaning towards a clearomizer. Now I have to figure out what I all need. I like that variable voltage eGO Twist battery. But now I need to find the right clearo. And just when I think all I need is the batt and clearomizer then people tell me I need heads and this and that. I just want to build an e-cig, not a totem pole. I sure like your answers so I'd be glad to hear your advice on the clearos. As you can tell, I'm a noob. Thanks. Ed
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Users who are viewing this thread