eGO-T and Juices

[Stovepipe]

I recently got myself an eGO-T Mega Type B (was previously using V4L and cartomizers). I'm loving it so far but I'm concerned a bit about some of the things I've read regarding what juices work best with it. I've heard people say that VG heavy juices as well as "dark" juices are not ideal.

So far I've only tried two of Ms T's juices with mine; cola and snickerdoodle cookie (strawberry and blue raspberry on the way). My snickerdoodle is a few months old and very dark, but seems to vape ok. I have some coffees I'd like to try but they are rather dark and thick. I don't want to risk damaging my new hardware or wasting juice.

What are your thoughts on this tank device and Ms. Ts juices? Which ones have you found that don't work well? Should I be concerned at all about the VG based or dark juices?

Thanks!

 

[HooptysMom]

I use the Ego-T as well and read that you should use no more than 40% VG in the tanks. As for the dark ones, they seem to leak on me so I prefer a cartoon with them.

 

[HooptysMom]

I love autocorrect , I obviously didn't mean cartoon. I meant carto.

 

[Mishy73]

I recently got an eGo-T and am loving it. I have found the flavour of the juices to be far more prominent. I have had leaking issues with only one of my juices, but nothing that is a major deterrent. I found a "how to" on cleaning the eGo-T atomizers last weekend on the forum here and it's proven to be brilliant. I would recommend taking a look at it and doing it, more vapour and cleaner flavour.

Have to admit that I have not been bashful in trying all my different juices in my new "toy" and have been HUGELY impressed with the outcome to date. Not sure how to circumvent the leaking of the one particular juice but as I am aware of it, I don't leave the tank sitting in the atomizer when I am not actively vaping it and that seems to have solved the issue to some degree.

Happy vaping to you

 

[PsychOfMSE]

I bought 2 ego-Ts, one for my fiance and one for me. I haven't had a single drop leak through mine, probably put 60-100ml of juice through it with no problems whatsoever. Everything from pure PG to pure VG.

My fiance's on the other hand has been a handful. I've changed the wick out multiple times and it still leaks like crazy. She's gone back to the atomizers+carts setup until I can get her another tank atomizer shipped out.

 

[Stovepipe]

I got a hold of some pure PG and pure VG based juices from another vendor and have been experimenting with different mixtures of the two. So far the eGO-T doesn't seem to have issues at all with heavy VG from my experience. What are the potential problems with that anyway? Is it just a vapor performance thing or is it hard on the device?

I found a "how to" on cleaning the eGo-T atomizers last weekend on the forum here and it's proven to be brilliant. I would recommend taking a look at it and doing it, more vapour and cleaner flavour.

Would you mind posting a link to this? I've soaked mine in rubbing alcohol once and that seems to work ok. I've also just ran water through them to rinse out an old flavor when switching to a new one. I'm curious if there are better methods for cleaning than this.

 

[Tempus Fugit]

I like direct dripping myself, and rarely use tanks on my eGo unless I am involved in an activity that isn't "drip friendly". However, I do like tanks much better than cartomizers. My experience has been that the smaller (Type 1?) cone-shaped tank atties are a little more problematic than the fat cylindrical ones with the larger volume tank (Type 2?). I have only experienced bad leakage on one, and that was definitely attributable to a faulty atty. I have noticed that on occasion, they do not seem to wick as well as I would like. The solution however, was pretty easy. If it feels like it is getting a little dry, a couple of good drags without depressing the button (slightly harder than one would take while pushing the button) seems to re-wet the wick and it works much better after that. I only need to do this every once in a while to keep things flowing smoothly. Ms T tends to use her tank quite a bit, and definitely prefers them over cartos too. Dripping doesn't work well for her because most of the time she is wearing gloves and trying to mix up juices for everyone. She obviously only uses her juices, and has found several that she likes in the tank. Everyone seems to have different experiences, and I am a little disappointed in the tanks abilities sometimes. There is flavor reduction (again, I'm a dripper though), and they are obviously tested on thin Chinese PG based juices. I honestly think the the tank system is still a work in progress, and I am hoping that maybe someday they will design them to work well with everything that they are supposed to work with! I do love the concept though, and I think it almost fully addresses many needs that people have for their devices. The Joye eGo batteries are outstanding, performance-wise, and I can only wish that I didn't have to spend so much initial time with those weak little 510 batteries! Any Joye eGo battery and a LR 510 atty with a drip tip are a SUPER combination that provides great power, vapor and flavor ALL day long.

Brandon
Ms T's Bakery

 

[Stovepipe]

Interesting insight, thanks Brandon.

 

[Stovepipe]

I have noticed that on occasion, they do not seem to wick as well as I would like. The solution however, was pretty easy. If it feels like it is getting a little dry, a couple of good drags without depressing the button (slightly harder than one would take while pushing the button) seems to re-wet the wick and it works much better after that. I only need to do this every once in a while to keep things flowing smoothly.

I just wanted to say that this trick works amazingly well! I can't believe I didn't figure this out on my own, it really makes a HUGE difference. Thanks!

 

[MurseDubya]

I guess before now I used carto's and now I'm onto (in quite liking) the Ego-T setup. I will say I have yet to NOT experience some level of leakage.

But from a logic standpoint I'd say the T setup is probably the least likely to change or fail due to type, color, or viscosity of juices used if only due to the simplicity of the design. There's really not much to break. I could see wicking thicker juices being a little impaired due to the smallish needle and wick design, but the shortness of the wick should quickly redress mixed flavors I would think.

As for cleaning, I've not tried this yet, but if one were soo inclined, they might choose the following method to disassemble and clean their attys. I've yet to find a good reason, though I did disassemble, just because I'm destructively curious. Not a great trait when one owns troublesome vehicles and takes on intricate hobbies.

https://www.myvaporstore.com/v/vspfiles/assets/images/egotankatomizercleaning.jpg

 

[Tempus Fugit]

In all honesty, I never clean atties. I tried it a few times long ago, and it seemed like I had more problems with them after cleaning than I did before. Now, I do pretty exclusively drip into Joye LR 510 atties. My method is very simple. If I want to change flavors, I just run some Unflavored E-juice through it. After maybe 15 puffs, plus or minus, the old flavor is gone and it is ready for a new one. I typically vape all day long and don't often have more than one atty in my current rotation. I tend to be able to use them for a month or more, sometimes two (some have lasted longer than that), before they either start to lose effectiveness or just plain pop. It's a little harder to run Unflavored through a tank atty because it is very thick, but I have done it and it works too. Cartos are a little different, I have rinsed/soaked/blown out the water and that seems to clean them enough for continued use. With how cheap cartos are though, and how rarely I use them, I just throw them away if I run out of what flavor I was using. It's so rare that I use them anyway. Consider the Unflavored method if you want, it has worked very well for me, especially as a direct dripper.

Brandon
Ms T's Bakery

 

[Mishy73]

Would you mind posting a link to this? I've soaked mine in rubbing alcohol once and that seems to work ok. I've also just ran water through them to rinse out an old flavor when switching to a new one. I'm curious if there are better methods for cleaning than this.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ep-step-cleaning-maintenance-shaka-zuluf.html

Here you go Stovepipe ... hope it works as well for you as it has for me ... I have incorporated it into my weekly weekend routine now. Keeps the atomizer clean as a whistle and the juice tasting pristine ... happy vaping

 

[Stovepipe]

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ep-step-cleaning-maintenance-shaka-zuluf.html

Here you go Stovepipe ... hope it works as well for you as it has for me ... I have incorporated it into my weekly weekend routine now. Keeps the atomizer clean as a whistle and the juice tasting pristine ... happy vaping

Mishy I appreciate you bringing this to my attention. This seems to work wonderfully!

 

[Stovepipe]

Brandon, would you mind linking me to a good source for low resistance atomizers that work work well with the eGO-T battery for direct dripping? Note this is the specific model I have: eGo-T MEGA 2ml (Type B) Tank Stainless Steel Starter Kit

I've looked at a few but I just want to make sure I get something that won't ruin my battery. TheVaporPro (my main vendor) doesn't carry LR atomizers for some reason.

Thanks!

 

[Tempus Fugit]

Brandon, would you mind linking me to a good source for low resistance atomizers that work work well with the eGO-T battery for direct dripping? Note this is the specific model I have: eGo-T MEGA 2ml (Type B) Tank Stainless Steel Starter Kit

I've looked at a few but I just want to make sure I get something that won't ruin my battery. TheVaporPro (my main vendor) doesn't carry LR atomizers for some reason.

Thanks!

Hey Stove,

I never really use the Mega size atomizers since anything with a 510 fitting will work on the eGo battery. I also have other 510 devices on which Mega style atties won't fit. I have a battery just like yours which I use all the time. I also use one of the 1000mah eGo batteries. I pretty much stick with the standard size 510 atties and I put the cone over it to round out the looks of the eGo. There are probably tons of places to get a good Joye LR 510 atty, but I use these from Ecig Supply in Phoenix AZ, which run $7.99 each right now. This company is actually pretty close to me so I get stuff shipped standard and get it within a day or two. They have always taken good care of me and get stuff to me quickly. In case you don't have a cone for your eGo, they have those too for $3.95. Their prices also seem to be a bit better than other places I've tried. They do have other LR atties too, like the Bridgless LR 510 atty. I have tried one of these, and I absolutely LOVE the design of it, but it is 1.8ohms and I much prefer the 1.5ohm Joye LR atties that I linked to first. They also have another LR atty on special right now for $3.95 which is 1.5ohm, but I was not as impressed with those as I am the Joye LRs. For $3.95 though, it may be worth it to have a few on hand. My experience was that they didn't last as long as the Joyes, but worked pretty well while they lasted. Don't forget a drip tip if you don't already have one. You'll find a ton of them on that website too. The best one I have ever had is a Shorty T-Tip from Super T Manufacturing, even though they cost quite a bit. Well worth it in my opinion though, and they have lots of cool new designs now. People may not think that there is much difference in drip tips, but the T-tip was first, and it is better than every other one I have tried. I still use it every day, even after about a year and a half.

Brandon
Ms T's Bakery

 

[Stovepipe]

Hey Stove,

I never really use the Mega size atomizers since anything with a 510 fitting will work on the eGo battery. I also have other 510 devices on which Mega style atties won't fit. I have a battery just like yours which I use all the time. I also use one of the 1000mah eGo batteries. I pretty much stick with the standard size 510 atties and I put the cone over it to round out the looks of the eGo. There are probably tons of places to get a good Joye LR 510 atty, but I use these from Ecig Supply in Phoenix AZ, which run $7.99 each right now. This company is actually pretty close to me so I get stuff shipped standard and get it within a day or two. They have always taken good care of me and get stuff to me quickly. In case you don't have a cone for your eGo, they have those too for $3.95. Their prices also seem to be a bit better than other places I've tried. They do have other LR atties too, like the Bridgless LR 510 atty. I have tried one of these, and I absolutely LOVE the design of it, but it is 1.8ohms and I much prefer the 1.5ohm Joye LR atties that I linked to first. They also have another LR atty on special right now for $3.95 which is 1.5ohm, but I was not as impressed with those as I am the Joye LRs. For $3.95 though, it may be worth it to have a few on hand. My experience was that they didn't last as long as the Joyes, but worked pretty well while they lasted. Don't forget a drip tip if you don't already have one. You'll find a ton of them on that website too. The best one I have ever had is a Shorty T-Tip from Super T Manufacturing, even though they cost quite a bit. Well worth it in my opinion though, and they have lots of cool new designs now. People may not think that there is much difference in drip tips, but the T-tip was first, and it is better than every other one I have tried. I still use it every day, even after about a year and a half.

Brandon
Ms T's Bakery

You are a good guy Brandon, thanks for taking the time to inform me! That is exactly the information I needed and the vendor seems great; order placed! It's amazing almost all of the places I checked earlier today were out of stock of the Joye LR atties.

Thanks a ton!

 

[s3anvap3s]

I use the Ego-T as well and read that you should use no more than 40% VG in the tanks. As for the dark ones, they seem to leak on me so I prefer a cartoon with them.

I've found with my eGo-T and the thicker, darker, juices that the LR atty (that VaperKings sells) works best.

Also the LR cartos that can be found here also work like a champ: http://www.electronicstix.com/CARTOMIZERS-J-TANKS/510-Series-Cartomizers/BLANK-BOGE-2-0-OHM-LOW-RESISTANCE-510-CARTOMIZERS-STAINLESS-p321.html

Let me know what you think,

SeanVapes

 

[Stovepipe]

Just wanted to report back after receiving my LR attys and giving direct drip a whirl. I can say this, whenever I want to get punched in the face hard with vapor and flavor, this is what I will do! It's a bit messy though and I don't see my self using this method as my go-to vape during the day (the tank is just so convenient), but I love having this option available. The throat and nic hit is hard core... it really gives that full flavor cigarette style satisfaction. A few of these hits and I actually feel like putting the e-cig down for a bit. With the tank, I tend to vape too much really. It just sort of becomes this passive thing I do throughout the day. Whereas with the direct drip it's a set activity that I do for a one to two minute session. Kind of a nice change of pace and more satisfying in some ways.

So again I appreciate the suggestions for what pieces of kit to buy. This is a nice addition to my setup!

Edit: And oh yeah, I learned pretty quick that once Ms. T's Strong Menthol gets into one of the attys, it's there to stay for awhile lol. I'll probably be tasting menthol for a long time in this particular atty despite switching to another flavor after 15 minutes heh.

Edit2: And SeanVapes thanks for the carto recommendation, I've heard other good things about them and will probably try them out at some point!

 

[Stovepipe]

This seems to be a great wick mod that fixes a lot of issues with the eGO-T:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/ego-type-models/169520-simplecjs-ego-t-wick-mod.html

I ordered some of the rope (for $3 ha) and will be trying this out. The wick that comes with these atomizers certainly seems like the weakest link and having the ability to easily replace them with something better makes sense to me.

 

[Stovepipe]

I thought I'd update this thread again to report my experience with the above mentioned wick mod and share some more thoughts on the eGO-T in general.

I feel like I've gotten to know this thing pretty well over the past month and a half. It has the potential to be a great device and is a huge improvement over what I was using before (KR808-D based setup). After tinkering with it and experimenting with direct drip with LR atomizers, it's obvious that while the tank system has lots of potential it also has some glaring flaws. Fortunately it seems the worst problem is easy to fix.

The worst issue with the tank system is that after a week of heavy use, the tank atomizers start going downhill fast. After two weeks without maintenance the experience is greatly degraded and everything from bad taste to harsh throat hits to greatly reduced vapor sets in. I let one go three weeks and it was essentially unusable. At $15 a pop this can get expensive.

So, there is the cleaning method that was posted in this thread. Once you get a hemostat the process is quick and easy and really improves the performance of the atomizers. But the downside to this, at least for me, is that each time you pull that needle plate out and remove the wick, some of the wick gets damaged. After two cleanings one of my wicks fell apart in my hand. The metal mesh thing that holds the strands together is just too fragile and there aren't many strands to work with even from the start. So the cleaning method alone isn't sustainable.

Thanks to the wick mod linked above, you can replace the wick anytime you want! Not only is it a replacement, the wick you put in there is significantly better than the stock wick. It costs pennies to do and after a couple times it becomes ridiculously easy. After a cleaning and a wick replacement my atomizers are AT LEAST as good as they were fresh out the package, if it's a particular good wick job the things will produce significantly deeper and more vaporous hits! Huge huge success.

The guide that explains the wick mod is very good. The only thing I'd add is that it's important to not make the wick TOO thick. It should be thin enough to poke up through the needle plate without much struggle (using a dulled safety pin). It's important to trim the spike end flush with the top of the needle and fluff it with a pin. You can see that it wicks well by putting a drop of juice on the coil end of the wick and watching as the spike end of it turns juice color. Of course, be sure to burn the coil end of the wick really well with a lighter to ensure no chemicals are on it. I've done 4 of these now and by the second one I had it down to a science. By the 4th one it was a mindless procedure that took only about 5 minutes. Nothing to it.

It remains to be seen how long these new wicks can last. But I expect to still be cleaning heavily used atomizers once per week. During the cleaning if the wick is damaged at all (sticks to the coil, is charred, or otherwise not in good shape) I will simply replace it. I figure the four atomizers I have should last me a very long time. Especially since I'm enjoying mixing some direct drip into the rotation. I really have grown accustomed to the awesome taste of juice with direct drip. Juice though the tank doesn't taste as good. Not bad mind you, at all, just not as vivid as direct. It's great to have both options available.

Thanks again for the info provided in this thread. I can now get the most out of Ms. Ts juices!

Cheers!