eGo = Tornado = Riva?

[iamdougm]

I've noticed that the Riva (from NHaler.com) looks an awful lot like the eGo. Or at least the battery does.
Are they. in fact, the same?

And if the battery is the same I would assume it would be compatible with all 510 accessories.

Starter kit from Drew seems to be a much better deal than say, the Tornado from TW.

Thanks,

DougM

 

[MsSki]

ego and tornado are exactly the same 650mah batt. and the Rvia is 750 mah and the button was redone on it , i belive. but yes they are the same. If im wrong someone will chime in.
Tara

 

[driptip]

The Riva is from Eastmall not Nhaler there is also the T Rex

 

[WillyB]

I've noticed that the Riva (from NHaler.com) looks an awful lot like the eGo. Or at least the battery does.
Are they. in fact, the same?

And if the battery is the same I would assume it would be compatible with all 510 accessories.

Starter kit from Drew seems to be a much better deal than say, the Tornado from TW.

Thanks,

DougM

The eGo/Tornado are Joye products. The Riva is an EastMall product not made by Joye.

EM-Riva - EM-Riva-Manual - Eastmall International Co.,Ltd

It is too early to determine it's claims/quality/longevity/vape.

Some reading here.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...lse-allegation-concerning-eastmalls-riva.html

 

[Drozd]

the eGo and Tornado are Joye products....the riva is not. Different manufacturer..it's an eGo clone

 

[iamdougm]

I stand corrected. The Riva is, in fact, from Eastmall. And I would do well to remember that (for the most part) if someone tries to sell you a diamond ring for 10 cents, all you'll end up with is a diamond that ain't worth a dime!

Thanks Folks

DougM

 

[Col. Gaunt]

All that needs to be said is that the Ego came out first! Isn't that enough?

 

[candre23]

All that needs to be said is that the Ego came out first! Isn't that enough?

The RN4081 came out before the 510, does that make it better? Joye is a relative latecomer to PV manufacturing. The basic layout/design of an ecig was pretty well standardized before they showed up, and the only things they changed for the 510 is the atty threading and resistance. It's pretty funny to see them freaking out now about somebody "stealing" one of their ideas.

The companies who will win are the ones who can make the best products for the least money. The riva has a larger capacity battery and is cheaper than the ego, so it would be silly to ignore it just because the ego was "first".

 

[Col. Gaunt]

The RN4081 came out before the 510, does that make it better? Joye is a relative latecomer to PV manufacturing. The basic layout/design of an ecig was pretty well standardized before they showed up, and the only things they changed for the 510 is the atty threading and resistance. It's pretty funny to see them freaking out now about somebody "stealing" one of their ideas.

The companies who will win are the ones who can make the best products for the least money. The riva has a larger capacity battery and is cheaper than the ego, so it would be silly to ignore it just because the ego was "first".

What I was trying to say was that the ego was the original model, which was then licensed to TW and re-named. The ego is going to be getting an xl bat that will be 750 mah so it will be up to par on that as well.

Sure the riva is cheaper, they did not have to pay as much in R&D for a design that already exists. We shall see how the riva is when the reviews start to come in.

 

[Kelemvor]

The riva has a larger capacity battery and is cheaper than the ego, so it would be silly to ignore it just because the ego was "first".

does it really have a larger capacity ? with same outer dimensions ? do you really believe that without some proof ?

 

[Scottbee]

Drew (NHaler) carries both the eGo and the Riva.

I have the Riva (kit) and so far no complaints. In some ways and areas I consider it to be an improvement over the eGo/Tornado. I haven't found any areas in which I consider it to be of "lesser quality or design" than the Tornado/eGo. (I posted a "first impression" review elsewhere).

I have not measured or determined the "exact" battery capacity. But then again, I don't know of anybody who has measured the "exact" battery capacity of the Tornado/eGo either. I cannot absolutely say that it has more capacity, but I do not feel that it has any less either.

 

[MJR]

I hope you are wright
because I'm still wainting for my riva
everything I read about riva was in good terms

 

[woodman]

I been using the RIVA a week or so now after my tornado batteries wore out and my opinion so far is excellent. IMO RIVA and EM blank 510 cartos are best thing going right now.

 

[Andre Nagel]

Hi
Tornado , eGo is exactly the same .... T-rex , Riva is the new improved ..... All made by Joye .I bought one of the first ego available in South Africe.Did my homework and found that it was well known that Joye will be making them available to other reseller's.

This is the reply I got from Joye
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Dear Andre,

My name is June. Nice to meet you.

Glad that you are interested in our products. The products you said we nearly have. Our MOQ for starter kit is 500 sets as we only do wholesale and OEM brands products.

May I ask whether you are an e-cig distributor already? Have you imported e-cigs from China before?

I look forward to more informations about you.

Any more problems or helps please contact me.

Have a nice weekend.

Thanks in advance and best regards

June
Abroad Sales

Shenzhen Joyetech Co., Ltd.
4/F ,9th Blvd.Changxing High New Tech. Industry Zone, Shajing Town, Baoan District, ShenZhen China.

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Please note that only the old 'eGo" is on the Joye site and available.The new ones Riva/T-rex is not yet available on the joye site.Exactly the same a when the first eGo became available.

Some one mentioned East Mall ....No matter what they want you to belive they don't manufacture anything .EM Riva a EM original pops up as the T-Rex.The Indulgence ? An original ? Only time would Tell.The Obsession ? Who knows .

The rest of the EM product range is from SLB

The only reason some suppliers makes a fuss is that they had to purchase 500 units and now have old outdated stock to get rid of.

Regards

Andre Nagel

 

[candre23]

Hi
T-rex , Riva is the new improved ..... All made by Joye .
...
EM Riva a EM original pops up as the T-Rex.

Both of these points are incorrect. The Riva and T-rex are clearly different devices. Observe the two images below:

The T-rex has a metal button and a "ring" around the body that lights up when activated. The Riva has a translucent silicone button and the button itself lights up when pressed. They may be similar, and they may even come out of the same factory, but they are definitely not the same device.

Wherever the T-rex is being manufactured, I know for a fact that the Riva is not manufactured by Joye. Janty (a Joye distributor) has already made a huge stink about this elsewhere on the forum. Joye may or may not have a higher capacity version of the ego in the works, but it is not the same as the Riva. It may or may not be the same as the T-rex, but since neither has been made available yet, it is impossible to know.

 

[bluesuede]

I would like to point out a couple of things, if I may...

1. RiVa is new and improved, yes, but indeed manufactured by Eastmall in their own factory by EM workers. This we have been assured by David Yang, owner of Eastmall. I hope you are not suggesting this very nice man is being disingenious. Perhaps you could visit and ask for a tour. I'm sure David would be more than happy to oblige.

2. Eastmall also manufactures the Indulgence and have designed and manufactures their own EM LR5 (510) atomizers. Next up is the Obession from what I understand.

3. The prototype, as I understand it, for the other units similar to the RiVa is the laser pointer mod by the very respected modder Cisco. You can read further here, post #91. http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...69-em-riva-now-available-shop-60-00-a-10.html Picture of laser mod from 9 months ago. Looks "familiar"? Egads!

Improvements and innovation is how the industry moves ahead the world over and in the end, it's all good for us, the consumers.

P.S. My thanks go to Cisco, the Mod God, for the link above.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...2-em-riva-now-available-shop-60-00-laser4.jpg

Hi
Tornado , eGo is exactly the same .... T-rex , Riva is the new improved ..... All made by Joye .I bought one of the first ego available in South Africe.Did my homework and found that it was well known that Joye will be making them available to other reseller's.

This is the reply I got from Joye
............................................................
Dear Andre,

My name is June. Nice to meet you.

Glad that you are interested in our products. The products you said we nearly have. Our MOQ for starter kit is 500 sets as we only do wholesale and OEM brands products.

May I ask whether you are an e-cig distributor already? Have you imported e-cigs from China before?

I look forward to more informations about you.

Any more problems or helps please contact me.

Have a nice weekend.

Thanks in advance and best regards

June
Abroad Sales

Shenzhen Joyetech Co., Ltd.
4/F ,9th Blvd.Changxing High New Tech. Industry Zone, Shajing Town, Baoan District, ShenZhen China.

.....................................................................................

Please note that only the old 'eGo" is on the Joye site and available.The new ones Riva/T-rex is not yet available on the joye site.Exactly the same a when the first eGo became available.

Some one mentioned East Mall ....No matter what they want you to belive they don't manufacture anything .EM Riva a EM original pops up as the T-Rex.The Indulgence ? An original ? Only time would Tell.The Obsession ? Who knows .

The rest of the EM product range is from SLB

The only reason some suppliers makes a fuss is that they had to purchase 500 units and now have old outdated stock to get rid of.

Regards

Andre Nagel

 

[Andre Nagel]

My apologies.
Looks like I put my foot in it .Did not intend to offend any one .Just trying to get some clarity.Dont get me wrong I am not a Joye fan.
I like EM product range aimed at the the serious vaper like myself. I see the the Riva type shape as the PV of the future . If only I can get hold of the Short adjustable 510 to 801 adaptor( not the long one sold made by SLB) so that I can fit a 801 atti with a modified cone my life will be complete. From the response on the forum looks like EM have a lot of dedicate fan out there and I am being corrected very quickly. Regards Andre Nagel
PS. Is the Obsession a mini duel sim IPhone with a 801 atti and 2 1200 mah batteries ? Ok maybe one day.

 

[candre23]

If only I can get hold of the Short adjustable 510 to 801 adaptor( not the long one sold made by SLB) so that I can fit a 801 atti with a modified cone my life will be complete.

Madvapes carries them. They're pretty cheap too: 510 Battery to 801 Atomizer Adapter

 

[BartS]

From the response on the forum looks like EM have a lot of dedicate fan out there and I am being corrected very quickly. Regards Andre Nagel
PS. Is the Obsession a mini duel sim IPhone with a 801 atti and 2 1200 mah batteries ? Ok maybe one day.

The reason for their loyal fan base is because the give an outstanding service good prices and good delivery times and awsome products (Like the Riva). They also have a growing number of loyal customers here in SA.

 

[Andre Nagel]

Please understand that I am not trying to run EM down.

EM is a great supplier ... If not the best ..... And we will be worse of without them

Let me show you what led me to believe that EM don't personally manufacture the products in their own Factory with their own workers.

Below is a extract of the Riva on the EM site
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EM-Riva is a specially *1*made product for Eastmall .
It has better manual button .
2.Better battery quality
3. The shape for Riva is better looking than similar ones.
4. *2*You saved at least $18 from any other sellers

The starter kit includes:
2 pcs of 510 atomizer
2 pcs of 750mah battery
1 PC fast charger (only takes 2 and a half hours to fully charge the batts) plus Wall charger
10 pcs blank cart
1 PC cone

Please note: *3*Riva is an improved version with several improvements, but all parts are interchangeable
Eastmall will give 6 months on warranty for RiVa kit and 3 months on battery
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*1* Made for EM ...... Not by EM
*2*From other seller .....selling the same product?
*3* Improved version .......Of the same thing ? .... Of a older model ?

Is not the improved version of a Model T Ford .... Still a Model T Ford.

So a Improved eGo By Joye ....... Must still be a eGo by Joye

Where I come from a MALL is a shopping Center ... Where goods are sold not manufactured

Stock levels is also Way to low for a 'Factory'

So don't blame me for this it is straight of the EM website.

Regards
Andre Nagel