Ehpro Kayfun lite or HCigar kayfun 3.1?

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diab0lik

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I bought an hcigar 3.1 off ebay and it just came yesterday. Was still waiting on kanthal in the mail, so I finally built it today.

Overally very easy, well built, threads are great, can't complain..

except the vertical juice channels were borderline nonexistant.

I've heard this tends to be hit or miss in general -- I could have returned (one upside to paying more on ebay instead of FT), but I lack patience (hence paying more on ebay than FT :D). I had a crappy needle file set from Walmart, and spent an hour or so widening and deepening the juice channel to an acceptable level. I actually didn't try it before this, but I'm pretty damn confident it wouldn't have wicked...it wasn't a channel so much as a gap in the threads.

Should have taken before pictures, but it was really bad. I would have drilled it, but I didn't have a sufficiently sized ss bit, and I didn't want to risk slipping and damaging (have no proper vice or press). Anyway, my first ever coil works great, and have had zero wicking issues (cotton/9 wrap 28ga microcoil ~1.5ohms) -- so far at least. I also did pick up a diamond tip dremel bit in case I needed it, but so far the file-job seems to be adequate.

Let it be known I'm not that experienced -- just wanted to give you a heads up on the hcigar I bought and the ....ty juice channels (horizontal juice channels were great btw). Also FWIW the seller called it an hcigar, but it shipped in a weird little black case (no mfr box) so I can't be positive -- may actually be a 'silver edition' tobeco or something like that. If someone knows how to tell the difference I could confirm.

Anyway, I've never wrapped a coil in my life, and was successful with a 'hcigar' kayfun 3.1 on my first go -- this leads me to believe it's pretty damn easy. Again, from what I've read, it's just largely hit or miss on the juice channels...I missed, but don't mind putting in extra effort to allow for impatience.
 
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retic1959

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    I've bought two HCIGAR 3.1s not from ebay and they're perfect , best machining I've ever seen on a clone but YMMV . Two things in general make sure your coils don't touch the deck and use just enough wick if you use cotton to reach the bottom of the deck without plugging up the juice channels , of course check your resistance and you'll be fine . The Kayfun design is one of the best RBA's available just exercise some common sense and you'll love it .
     

    Btsmokincat

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    I have a EHpro Kayfun Lite and it's pretty good! The juice channels are perfect IMO, not to big and not to small. The threading is smooth all over and and the airflow feels like a Protank and no whistle. It works great and I think my only complaint would be the 510 connection on the bottom is long making my Kayfun hard to flush mount.

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    diab0lik

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    I've bought two HCIGAR 3.1s not from ebay and they're perfect , best machining I've ever seen on a clone but YMMV . Two things in general make sure your coils don't touch the deck and use just enough wick if you use cotton to reach the bottom of the deck without plugging up the juice channels , of course check your resistance and you'll be fine . The Kayfun design is one of the best RBA's available just exercise some common sense and you'll love it .

    yeah, the build quality was fantastic overall on mine as well...just those vertical juice channels were poop.
     

    retic1959

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    This is actually exactly how mine came:
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    That's the same way mine came , I probably would have sent it back rather than risk damaging the threads but I'm glad it worked out for you , I do prfer the 3.1 clones over the lite/R91% clones , I have both types from different manufacturers and the airflow and consequently the juice flow is a little better IMO the 3.1's are easier to dial in the flavor. The hcigars have the best build quality out of the clones I have but with clones it's the luck of the draw .
     

    diab0lik

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    That's the same way mine came , I probably would have sent it back rather than risk damaging the threads but I'm glad it worked out for you , I do prfer the 3.1 clones over the lite/R91% clones , I have both types from different manufacturers and the airflow and consequently the juice flow is a little better IMO the 3.1's are easier to dial in the flavor. The hcigars have the best build quality out of the clones I have but with clones it's the luck of the draw .

    Yeah I knew it was dumb while I was doing it, from a fiscal standpoint, but I couldn't help myself. I'm glad it worked out too...the file slipped in the general direction of the threads a couple times and I was scared. It would have been no major task with a decent file, but the POS wally world one I had got the job done...albeit quite slowly.
     

    csantiago1911

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    I have two of the Hcigar kayfun 3.1s and two friends of mine each bought one... that is 4 kayfun clones between us... all 4 were machined correctly (no shallow juice channels, clean uniform threads, tight tolerances, uniform finishes, etc.). The only thing that has not been uniform was the laser engraving of the SM logo... lighter on one, darker on another... I cleaned and built each one of them, and the innards were cleanly machined and uniform one to another. Each of them functions flawlessly.
     
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