Ejuice Me UP help...

[thatrandy]

i understand how everything works on the "ejuice me up" calculator, but the one thing im stuck on is the flavor tab
http://puu.sh/cTGhu/75b2f194f7.png
it says pg/vg % for the flavors..... how the hell am i to know that????????????????????????????

 

[FlamingoTutu]

Usually when you buy them you know what it is. Most are PG. Look on your bottle or go to the web site you bought them from to find out. Example, TFA key lime from WL lists the ingredients as; Natural and Artificial Flavors, Propylene Glycol, Ethyl Alcohol, Vitamin E. You'd keep it at 100% PG on the calculator.

 

[thatrandy]

Usually when you buy them you know what it is. Most are PG. Look on your bottle or go to the web site you bought them from to find out. Example, TFA key lime from WL lists the ingredients as; Natural and Artificial Flavors, Propylene Glycol, Ethyl Alcohol, Vitamin E. You'd keep it at 100% PG on the calculator.

Wouldn't that technically be wrong since there is still other ingredient besides PG, like the Ethyl Alcohol and flavorings... which mean its not 100% Pg....???
I'm starting to think I should just write it off as 0

 

[p7willm]

It all depends on how .... you want to be (I avoid starting down that hole cause I would end up trying to figure out how much moisture the PG had absorbed )

Most flavors are mainly the carrier, usually PG, and the amount of other stuff, like flavoring, is so small that you can treat it as being entirely carrier.

The other thing is that it is almost impossible to tell if something is 50% PG 48.4% VG and 1.6 % stuff (flavor, alcohol, etc.) or 50% 48.6% and 1.4%

Assuming the flavor is 100% carrier is "close enough for government work"

 

[WillyZee]

what p7willm said ^^^ ... treat the flavour as PG

 

[trouble1000]

Must admit, I've not come across a VG based flavouring myself. Everyone says that PG tends to carry flavour better than VG. So that's probably why most manufacturers use PG as a flavour base.

As far as being precise about it, I wouldn't worry to much. Every time I do a mix, it's probably at least 1% out on at least one ingredient, my syringe filling has never been that precise

 

[Train2]

As other said, MOST flavorings are MOSTLY PG. So it's close enough to consider it PG.
If you didn't consider it at all, you could be way off - I've got liquids that end up being 20% flavoring, so if it didn't count that PG, I could end up with a mix that was nowhere near the targeted PG/VG ratio.

And even though concentrated, if you're adding 2 mls of a flavoring, it probably really is 1.9 mls of PG and a few molecules each of some other stuff that comprises the flavor...

Wouldn't that technically be wrong since there is still other ingredient besides PG, like the Ethyl Alcohol and flavorings... which mean its not 100% Pg....???
I'm starting to think I should just write it off as 0

 

[DingerCPA]

FWIW, if you're not concerned about precise PG/VG, then you'd be o.k. considering the flavors as zero. Otherwise, lean toward 100% PG. There are a few vendors (off top of head, don't remember) that have VG-based flavorings - I think for people with PG allergies.

Personally, I am not wrapped up in the PG/VG ratio, I get my flavor percentages and just drop in 50/50 until I fill my bottle.

 

[Robino1]

Moved from General Vaping to DIY E-Liquid Forum.

 

[crxess]

Must admit, I've not come across a VG based flavouring myself. Everyone says that PG tends to carry flavour better than VG. So that's probably why most manufacturers use PG as a flavour base.

As far as being precise about it, I wouldn't worry to much. Every time I do a mix, it's probably at least 1% out on at least one ingredient, my syringe filling has never been that precise

I can guaranty my Flavors are always off. I have to raise the plunger to leave a gap in order to see where to stop. I'm sure this adds to the total by the amount of the Needle and some are longer/larger than others. The trick is to stay consistent once the right mix is found.

Talking Flavor effect on mix ratios, some of my VZ Flavors are .15ml Max - not much effect on overall ratios there.

 

[trouble1000]

I can guaranty my Flavors are always off. I have to raise the plunger to leave a gap in order to see where to stop. I'm sure this adds to the total by the amount of the Needle and some are longer/larger than others. The trick is to stay consistent once the right mix is found.

Talking Flavor effect on mix ratios, some of my VZ Flavors are .15ml Max - not much effect on overall ratios there.

I remember when I first started mixing, I was using the same gauge syringe needle for each one of my syringes. Carefully measuring drops for each element of the mix. Soon got bored with that though, when it took half an hour to mix up a 30ml bottle

These days, I'm not quite so obsessive. As long as it tastes right, that's all I'm bothered about

 

[thatrandy]

What do you guys think would be a good ml text mix at? like make stuff 1ml at a time?

 

[Boletus]

What do you guys think would be a good ml text mix at? like make stuff 1ml at a time?

If you are using a high precision scale, you might be able to pull off a 1 ml batch accurately, but with syringes, I would recommend 5-10 ml. If you have a recipe that calls for 2% of something, for a 1 ml batch, that would be 0.02 ml (pretty hard to measure accurately). I usually do 10 ml because I will vape some right after mixing, a few times during steeping, and then when I think it is done, and then sometimes I let it sit for a while and try again later.. Then I usually have a little left to play around with, tweaking it this way and that by adding a drop of flavor or a small squirt of some other juice.