Eleaf GS Air Fan
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I actually don't care if it's organic cotton, rayon or amorphous silica. As long as it's somewhat safe to use in atomizers. I do have a big issue with fiberglass, though, if that's what they are using...
There are different kinds of silica; one kind is OK for vaping--and it's been discussed on this forum for quite some time, long before Aspire introduced their fiberglass/ceramic wicking material. Amorphous silica, commonly used in wicks by all (or most) e-cig manufacturers, has been deemed safe by our resident chemists and is even approved by FDA for use in food and medicine.
Please read this post by tenshi, and this one by Boden, and [URL="http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/health-safety-vaping/377764-dangers-silica-wicks-5.html#post9181477"]this one by Kurt, [/URL]our resident chemist and a person I trust completely in all matters related to chemistry.
More on the subject:
http://srs.unm.edu/industrial-hygiene/media/docs/silica.pdf
"Amorphous Silica: Multiple studies have found amorphous silica to be biologically inert when
ingested and inhaled, with the exception of extruded fiberglass and ceramic fibers (which have been
designated as carcinogens by the National Toxicology Program), which are hazardous due to their
very small size and their high length to width aspect ratio. Because of this inertness, the US Food
and Drug Administration permits the use of amorphous silica (not fiberglass or ceramic fibers!) in food
and medicine. "
So, the question, for me, is not whether Joyetech (and Aspire) are using cotton or silica, but rather what kind of silica they are using.
Well, I tried to clean the Aspire BVC coils - they have the same 'ceramic' filler shown.
Boiled 10 min. and aired dried 2 days.
Vaped one for a min. or two.
'ceramic' grains in the chimney and mouth piece.
Dangerous to your health IMO.
Boiled 10 min. and aired dried 2 days.
Vaped one for a min. or two.
'ceramic' grains in the chimney and mouth piece.
Dangerous to your health IMO.
I tried to take one apart--no go. My hands are not strong enough.
I stepped away from Kanger tanks with silica because the taste to me is just off. I have only ever had tanks with silica or cotton, and I just prefer cotton. I should only speak for myself, but I never liked the taste I got with the silica in Kanger's Protanks. I quickly started re wicking them with cotton.
I don't want to jump to any conclusions yet either......I just had suspictions. Even if I tore this coil apart, I'm not sure if I would know for certain what I'm looking at. Unless it's an obvious fluff of cotton.
I don't want to jump to any conclusions yet either......I just had suspictions. Even if I tore this coil apart, I'm not sure if I would know for certain what I'm looking at. Unless it's an obvious fluff of cotton.
Did we figure this out already. Tank's name is GS19 S. It's the same coil with Air.
Whats in these coils, same material with nautilus and delta?
Whats in these coils, same material with nautilus and delta?
With the news of those delta II coils, that makes the Subtanks the best game in town. Personally, I didn't like the looks of that delta anyway and filling them looks like a real PIA.
Surprised Joyetech would have made that decision. And Eleaf, with their switch to organic cotton, wins again.
Surprised Joyetech would have made that decision. And Eleaf, with their switch to organic cotton, wins again.
We won't know until someone tears one apart. I can't--I tried...
I almost lost a finger in the process.
I guess they don't want us to know what's inside. Or they don't want us to rebuild those coils.Or both.
That has not been established yet, reddog. Eleaf's and Joyetech's products are very closely related and probably made in the same factory. If Delta coils have that ceramic stuffing inside, despite being advertised as organic cotton, so can Eleaf coils (and egrip's CS coils), IMHO.
I didn't expect this from Joyetech.
*sigh*
I will get angry with the coil tomorrow if no one else has done so by then. Mine is vaping fine and I'd rather not destroy it yet. Also, I have yet to post pictures on ECF, and usually I'm challenged at that sort of thing. And, I have limited time tonight...Friday evening I've got no commitments.
Eleaf is advertising the MELO tank as organic cotton. I don't see any reference to the wick material on any of the GS series atomizers on their site. Seems like they had the foresight to advertise on the melo : "The cotton used inside is safe and certificated." And in another spot : "2.Newly Introduced Wick: The wick used inside is organic cotton, known as a more environmental and healthier material."
But no transparency on the GS atties. Hmmm.
But no transparency on the GS atties. Hmmm.
Houston, we may have a problem...
Please see posts #625-631
And Joyetech's response on Taste Your Juice:
Taste Your Juice | WHATS IN THE JOYETECH DELTA II HEADS?
Anybody else smells a rat?
Son of a .......
The ceramic material is a large reason why I've been using the GS Air over the Naut Mini (plus I like the draw better on the GS Air). I really hope it doesn't contain that crap too. I would have no problem disassembling my coil for inspection.... I have lots of tools and such, But I don't have any spare GS Air coils, and I don't want to destroy my only one.
Maybe I will bite the bullet and take this thing apart to see what's in it. If I do, I will post pics for you all.
They changed it recently.
Last time I looked, it was "organic cotton and glass fiber cotton." I wasn't the only one confused about that--see post #590.
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