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The coils are sitting by themselves surrounded by the interior metal walls and are made of a silica material,
due to that construction I think that they lend themselves to a standard dry burn to clean the coils.
I haven't tried it yet as I am still working on two Airs and bouncing between them for the past week
without a reduction in performance yet.
I have not dry burned one yet and did not stay at a Holiday inn last night, so YMMV...;)

I also was pretty unhappy at first with the burning in my throat when I started to use this tank,
turns out I was trying some new commercial e liquid and it was causing the discomfort.
Went back to my homemade and was in vape heaven!

Tried to rebuild coil in torn apart one, vertical with 28 gauge Kanthal approx. 9 wraps
and rayon wick wound around coil, then replaced liner material between inner and outer
layer. tests out at 1.4.
Seems to flood out so I cranked my iStick up to 20 watts, very warm vape and lots of vapor.
Will continue to play with it and will get pics when I can...

I've not really dry burned a coil so I just watched a video on it. It looks like you have to completely disassemble the coil head to do so. Now, going by what I've read here, it seems like that is no small feat...? Do you have to take it completely apart? If you don't, how do you know if the coil has gotten clean? Help. :blink:
 

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I've not really dry burned a coil so I just watched a video on it. It looks like you have to completely disassemble the coil head to do so. Now, going by what I've read here, it seems like that is no small feat...? Do you have to take it completely apart? If you don't, how do you know if the coil has gotten clean? Help. :blink:

I haven't tried dry burning these, so with that caveat...
I wouldn't bother to disassemble the coil prior to dry burning. The element is only in contact with
the silica and it will take a bit of heat abuse while burning off the caramelized sugar or whatever is on
the wicks.
rinse in water, dry as much as possible, 3 second pulses until vapor stops rising and rinse.
Since the idea is to dispose of used coils I suppose an experiment with dry burning with a
coil that seems to be not producing couldn't hurt.
The only danger to ruining the coil I suppose is "popping" the element.
If it works, you should see the coil return to almost new working condition.
Good luck!
 

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I haven't tried dry burning these, so with that caveat...
I wouldn't bother to disassemble the coil prior to dry burning. The element is only in contact with
the silica and it will take a bit of heat abuse while burning off the caramelized sugar or whatever is on
the wicks.
rinse in water, dry as much as possible, 3 second pulses until vapor stops rising and rinse.
Since the idea is to dispose of used coils I suppose an experiment with dry burning with a
coil that seems to be not producing couldn't hurt.
The only danger to ruining the coil I suppose is "popping" the element.
If it works, you should see the coil return to almost new working condition.
Good luck!

Thanks! :)
 

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Got my GS Air + 5 pack coils from SweetVapes today (Sat).
Tracking said Tues delivery, so a pleasant surprise.
3 days from WI to NC.

I like the tank size.
~ 1/2" shorter than the K1, but holds 1ml more juice.
Good looking tank.
The drip tip is kind of a 'shorty' which is nice and the oring is good and tight.

The airflow control does work.
However, the adjustment range seems fairly limited.
All the way out, not as airy as lung hitters will probably like.
Takes a number of turns until it begins to tighten down.
But can get the draw plenty tight if you wish. (I do)
A tad noisy.

On the first fill, 1/3 of the juice disappears into the largeish coil.

The vape is warmer and a bit muted compared to my K1.
8W too low.
14W way too hot/harsh for me.
~ 11W seems about right.


I noticed the GS Air is no longer listed on the Eleaf site.
It appears it has been discontinued for the IJust Air?
https://www.eleafus.com/atomizer

A nice tank, but I think the K1 will be my go-to favorite - once the cotton BVC coils come out.
Better flavor, lower wattage, cooler vape,

And thanks to those that pulled the coil apart for a closer look.
I'll do the same once the 1st coil goes.
 

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I order 2 tanks from sweet vapes yesterday morning and got them today great surprise. I put this on my new istick 39w and set it to 20w, no adjustment to the air flow getting a very nice warm vape and decent cloud from it. This is a very nice tank for the money, will order more of these for sure. Thanks Javamon for posting about this tank and those who pulled the coils apart. :)
 

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The only danger to ruining the coil I suppose is "popping" the element.QUOTE]

From having dry burned a few Kanger coils, I would add another potential danger: If you pulse the coil too long, there's the chance of heating up or burning the rubber insulators. If that happens you'll smell or taste the burned rubber. Just don't pulse very long or very high voltage and you should be ok. I tried to only go about 3.5 volts and very short pulses. The silica wick can take it....but those rubber insulators don't take much heat.
 

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The only danger to ruining the coil I suppose is "popping" the element.QUOTE]

From having dry burned a few Kanger coils, I would add another potential danger: If you pulse the coil too long, there's the chance of heating up or burning the rubber insulators. If that happens you'll smell or taste the burned rubber. Just don't pulse very long or very high voltage and you should be ok. I tried to only go about 3.5 volts and very short pulses. The silica wick can take it....but those rubber insulators don't take much heat.

That is true, but I forget to mention that the legs seem to be conductive wire welded on near the coil reducing this danger a bit, I hope...
 

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Anyone know if the Aspire BDC coils are the same as the BVCs?

They are not. BDC (bottom dual coils) do not have any ceramic/fiberglass in them. BVC (bottom vertical coils) do.

Oh and one more question. Anyone tried cleaning and reusing the coils yet? Wondering how they perform after a second go around. I'm still on my first one and wondering if it's worthwhile to try to clean them or just to toss them.

I find it very difficult to clean enclosed coils of any kind, including new Kanger BDCs. You could just do a "wet burn." Fill the tank (halfway or so) with 50%PG/VG and 50% vodka and vape this (without inhaling) until the tank is empty. Repeat if necessary.

Dry burning enclosed coils is not advisable--for many reasons. First of all, you have no control over the process if you can't see the coils. Also, without proper airflow you will almost certainly overheat and pop the coil. And then there is always some ash that needs to be evacuated somehow--very hard to to if you can't see it.
 

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From having dry burned a few Kanger coils, I would add another potential danger: If you pulse the coil too long, there's the chance of heating up or burning the rubber insulators. If that happens you'll smell or taste the burned rubber. Just don't pulse very long or very high voltage and you should be ok. I tried to only go about 3.5 volts and very short pulses. The silica wick can take it....but those rubber insulators don't take much heat.


Kanger uses NR-R-NR wire--I dry burn them regularly and never had a problem with insulators. Those legs never get hot.
 
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They are not. BDC (bottom dual coils) do not have any ceramic/fiberglass in them. BVC (bottom vertical coils) do.



I find it very difficult to clean enclosed coils of any kind, including new Kanger BDCs. You could just do a "wet burn." Fill the tank (halfway or so) with 50%PG/VG and 50% vodka and vape this (without inhaling) until the tank is empty. Repeat if necessary.

Dry burning enclosed coils is not advisable--for many reasons. First of all, you have no control over the process if you can't see the coils. Also, without proper airflow you will almost certainly overheat and pop the coil. And then there is always some ash that needs to be evacuated somehow--very hard to to if you can't see it.




Could not agree more. I think we all tend to forget that these are disposable items. And yes, of course I understand wanting to maximize their longevity, so if you do decide to dry burn them, I say follow Katya's instructions for a wet burn. IF/when I clean mine, I give them a long, slow bath in (cheap) vodka.
 

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Kanger uses NR-R-NR wire--I dry burn them regularly and never had a problem with insulators. Those legs never get hot.

Correct. I forgot this because I was rebuilding my Kanger coils, but was only using resistance wire. I burned a couple insulators that way...after I had rebuilt them. LOL
 

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Regarding the composition of the coils:

Eleaf / ISmoka in the U.S. didn't respond to my email. Eleaf / ISmoka in China just emailed me this:

Dear friend,

Thanks for your email and sorry for the inconvenience.
It is a Non-woven wick (Organic Cotton). Composition molecular formula is (C6H10O5)n.
Application is Cosmetic Grade.

Hope this can help you and if any problems feel free to contact us.

Have a nice day.
Best wishes!
 
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