Eleaf GS Air Fan

[LostVapeMonster]

I don't think it even needs to soak. If you fill the tank with vodka and shake it for a while, you're going to get most of the nastiness off in a matter of seconds/minutes.

Well I soaked it for an hour, then washed it with dish soap and could still smell it. Now I'm soaking again - probably over night this time. l'm beginning to think it's a loss... Had high hopes for the I30 because I like the I16s. They're just too small.

 

[LostVapeMonster]

might be from the first shipment? it's not an issue by any means, just an observation!

Would you say it's an improvement or just no difference? I like the one I got but if I order more, I want to know what I'm getting.

 

[solace.discord]

Would you say it's an improvement or just no difference? I like the one I got but if I order more, I want to know what I'm getting.

there's really no difference.. just threw me off!

 

[Katdarling]

Lost, a mild vinegar solution can also help if need be. I would think Vodka first, then baking soda second, but by all means if the 3 is necessary, go fer it!

I actually think the nautilus bvc coils are way more muted flavor than the non nautilus coils. Way more muted

Hmmm..... I've not found that to be my experience at all.

You and this guy...

Oh squee. I LOVE Canadians! Do you love Canadians? Who doesn't love a Canadian! Great vid, lots of fun there, Katya..... thank you.

Thought the poor guy was going to burn his lips tho....

Waste of time.

A few hours should do it. Overnight, perhaps. Longer than that is not going to make any difference.

Agreed. An hour is fine. Overnight is when you forget you were soaking. (ask me how I know)

 

[inspects]

What some folks won't do to save five bucks----

 

[Katya]

Lost, a mild vinegar solution can also help if need be. I would think Vodka first, then baking soda second, but by all means if the 3 is necessary, go fer it!

Yeah... But sooner or later we will reach the point of diminishing returns with all that soaking. I'd say sooner rather than later.

Oh squee. I LOVE Canadians! Do you love Canadians? Who doesn't love a Canadian! Great vid, lots of fun there, Katya..... thank you.

Love them to pieces. They also tend to be much more polite and composed than we are.

My first vaping mentors here were Canadian--bornagainst and Switched. They taught me a lot aboot vaping. Ryedan is a great guy, too. I've learned a lot from him. Good people.

Thought the poor guy was going to burn his lips tho....

I thought he did...

Agreed. An hour is fine. Overnight is when you forget you were soaking. (ask me how I know)

Yup. If it doesn't do its thing in two hours or so, it's probably a lost cause. Sorry, Lost.

 

[Bored2Tears]

This is a bit off topic but I toasted some e liquid recently at 9.5W set on the istick with this tank. I blame my istick. Liquid was 50/50 PG/VG so it should be wicking just fine. My istick has been acting wonky lately. I was scorching a lot of liquids in my Lemo, so I thought i was wicking poorly....but now I think the pbusardo power mgmt issues he brought out are exaggerated on my istick. I'm convinced I'm getting more than the average voltage spiking with it. I've been using it non stop since November, and vaping while charging. So, I don't doubt that I have been hard on it.

Got a new ipv Mini 2 last night and am amazed at the difference. I can run it at 16.5W and it seems comparable to 10 on the istick....only a lot smoother, and more even temperature vapor.

 

[redddog]

This is a bit off topic but I toasted some e liquid recently at 9.5W set on the istick with this tank. I blame my istick. Liquid was 50/50 PG/VG so it should be wicking just fine. My istick has been acting wonky lately. I was scorching a lot of liquids in my Lemo, so I thought i was wicking poorly....but now I think the pbusardo power mgmt issues he brought out are exaggerated on my istick. I'm convinced I'm getting more than the average voltage spiking with it. I've been using it non stop since November, and vaping while charging. So, I don't doubt that I have been hard on it.

Got a new ipv Mini 2 last night and am amazed at the difference. I can run it at 16.5W and it seems comparable to 10 on the istick....only a lot smoother, and more even temperature vapor.

I'm guessing it's an istick 20?

 

[LostVapeMonster]

What some folks won't do to save five bucks----

Hey, five bucks is another few mls of juice!

 

[Bored2Tears]

I'm guessing it's an istick 20?

Yes...it was the original Stick 20W. Other than the recent unexplained behavior, I really love everything about the istick. Ultimately I went with the IPV mini rather than an upgraded Istick only because I wanted a mod with a replaceable battery.

I previously posted on the istick thread about the behavior....and got a few good suggestions but nothing that seems to fix the problem long term. There's so many variables that I'm not going to worry about it too much but burning tanks of juice all the time is frustrating.

 

[redddog]

There isn't a "fix" outside of just running the i20 at lower wattage.

One of the original issues of the i20 was that it's output was considerably "hotter" than what it was indicating. RMS vs Mean output (or the other way around). The i30 fixed that (among other issues) but the i20s all have that behavior. The simple "fix" is to just run it at the wattage that works best and forget about comparing it to other mods at similiar wattages.

In general, the i20 will run 3 or 4 watts hotter than it indicates. So if you run your IPV @ 16 watts, the i20 @ 10 or 11 watts will give you the same output. That's normal i20 behavior.

 

[redddog]

And just for those who were thinking that the Ijust Air was just a bigger version of the GS Air...

Uh, no.

It's a vintage version of the Protank with a press-fit coil. NO flavor. LITTLE vapor. MAX wast of caish.

I shoulda held out for the GS Air M but got antsy.

Dummy.

 

[tearose50]

I think Bored is talking about another problem I've seen before. Unfortunately, I don't recall if there was a solution.

It appears like the regulation ability of some of these chips eventually starts to fail and one gets unexpected spikes of power. I'd call that "broken".

Any chip/electronics geeks around who would know why? Could it be as simple as lousy connection on the chip circuit somewhere or just simply the component itself?

 

[LostVapeMonster]

And just for those who were thinking that the Ijust Air was just a bigger version of the GS Air...

Uh, no.

It's a vintage version of the Protank with a press-fit coil. NO flavor. LITTLE vapor. MAX wast of caish.

I shoulda held out for the GS Air M but got antsy.

Dummy.

Thanks for the info and sorry. I hate, hate, HATE to throw money down the drain like that.

 

[Bored2Tears]

I think Bored is talking about another problem I've seen before. Unfortunately, I don't recall if there was a solution.

It appears like the regulation ability of some of these chips eventually starts to fail and one gets unexpected spikes of power. I'd call that "broken".

Any chip/electronics geeks around who would know why? Could it be as simple as lousy connection on the chip circuit somewhere or just simply the component itself?

Right. That's exactly what I am trying to describe. I tended to vape the istick with GS Air at 10.5 W or so. I can truck along without changing that setting at all and suddenly get a supercharged hit, toasting my juice and suddenly hear the coils scorching. It's random, and sometimes right in the middle of a vape session.

This is not the RMS vs. Mean way of regulating power. I'm talking actual voltage spikes that are more than what pbusardo and the oscilloscope testing already proved to all of us.

So, maybe I will chuck the thing as broken , but for a long time when it was happening I thought it was that I poorly wicked my Lemo. Well, obviously that isn't the case if I am running the GS Air on it, because this little coil wicks like a champ.

It's been random enough that I've hesitated to throw the istick out completely. Buying the GS Air tank has at least convinced me it isn't just my rebuilding....I have something odd going on with the istick.

 

[redddog]

Oops. My bad.

 

[Bored2Tears]

Oops. My bad.

Don't worry. For quite a while I thought that this is just the power spike of mean output. But the more I investigated and tried out some different atomizers, the more convinced I'm becoming that these are major voltage spikes. Oh well, I didn't mean to go off on a tangent about MY istick woes anyway.

Did I mention I think this is a great tank for $10???

 

[Cheechako]

I have been rotating between my original two tanks for a week or so now and I am not disappointed yet!
Even the one I dry burned is cooking right along.
What I cannot figure out is that I am running these at 3.0 volts on my iStick 20 and very happy with the
vapor production and flavor. Must tie in with the notorious "high" actual voltage on the iStick.
Tried one of my Mini Protanks with recoiled, rewicked rayon tanks and was let down with the flavor and
vapor.
Great, now I'm spoiled with a cheap (inexpensive) tank I can't rebuild and gloomy thoughts that it will be discontinued.
Argh! Must order more coils!
anyone get a line on possible replacement glass tubes for these things?

 

[Amy87]

Finally got my two GS Airs yesterday, took one to work today with an istick mini. I dont have a teeny tiny screwdriver, but I was able to adjust the screw with the pointy end of a thumbtack. I am not sure what I think yet. It seems like its way too airy of a draw, no matter where I adjust the airflow. I'll hold off final judgement until I use the other one, and also will try them on the bigger isticks cranked up a little higher than what the mini will do, maybe that will make a difference.

 

[capthook]

Day 4:
Flavor boost yet again.
IStick 30w as always.
Day 1 this tank didn't show it's stuff.
Wasn't until tank 3 did it get 'broken in',
and probably more to the point, until I got it dialed in.
Ran it full air at ~11w - was ok.
Now at like 1/2 air and..... 7 watts. Yup. Yum.
Sweet, rich flavor. Battery saver to boot.
I likes me vape as low as she'll go thank you.
And being such a short tank, great for on the go.
From <meh> on day 1 to <yes> on day 4.

Those of you having trouble with the air adjustment:
It is a fairly poor design.
With the screw from full out/flush, mine takes 3 full turns to begin tightening the draw.
And at 4 turns, it is almost fully closed off.
So a narrow adjustment range. (between 3 and 4 turns in for me)
And if you try to close it off too much, you can push the screw into the head.
Mine went from fully closed, to fully open while tightening one time.
Removed the head and coil, the screw was sitting in the bottom!