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LynnNC

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Yeah... I've been poking around with the new coils, myself. In all honesty, it'd be tons easier to tightly wrap the vertical rebuild, insert from the base, and allow the wicking to expand to fill the chassis.
@Cloudmann , aren't you the one over in the other thread that rebuilt the new vertical coils and posted pictures? Do you mind if I link to that thread?
 

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Well, LOOK who shows up after Lynn has taken care of all the coils that need rebuilding!
Hello, CHEECH!
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It's all in the timing...:D
 

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Yeah... I've been poking around with the new coils, myself. In all honesty, it'd be tons easier to tightly wrap the vertical rebuild, insert from the base, and allow the wicking to expand to fill the chassis.
I tried a vert in one and didn't like it any more than the standard hor. but I may give it another go.
 

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I tried a vert in one and didn't like it any more than the standard hor. but I may give it another go.
If vertical is the only way to rebuild don't you have to stick with vertical? I have an order for the TC coils coming for the M's and I plan to rebuild them.
 

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If vertical is the only way to rebuild don't you have to stick with vertical? I have an order for the TC coils coming for the M's and I plan to rebuild them.
Maybe, I haven't looked at the coils. With a vertical build you should get more air. I was talkin about the old GS Air coils.
 

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I believe it was a 2mm. I wanted to be sure I got enough wick in it. It wicked fine but expected more air. It didn't perform any better so I didn't do any more.

I do hope we can recoil vertical from the top on the new coils since there are no liner around it and should be easier with a little bigger diameter like 2.5 or even 3.0 so air flow is improved. Will come to this sometimes this week unless you or someone come up with a good way. I want it to around .7 ohm.
I am also toying around with my new Evic VT mod as well Goblin mini. "So many things to do, too little time" is what joker said in the Batman movie. LOL
 

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I do hope we can recoil vertical from the top on the new coils since there are no liner around it and should be easier with a little bigger diameter like 2.5 or even 3.0 so air flow is improved. Will come to this sometimes this week unless you or someone come up with a good way. I want it to around .7 ohm.
I am also toying around with my new Evic VT mod as well Goblin mini. "So many things to do, too little time" is what joker said in the Batman movie. LOL
The only thing is you have a limited space. I think it's too small for 3mm and a good wick. A larger coil I.D. than the air inlet wouldn't be beneficial anyway. I would have to search back in the thread to find info on the one I did. But I may try another one tomorrow. Oops, just remembered I have to go pick up a bike I bought 4 hours from here. Maybe Tuesday..:)
 

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Yeah, I posted the process about vertical rebuilds in the old coils in a separate thread where I reviewed the GS Air MS... no pics, though. With the new coils, vertical is pretty much the only option I can see since the chamber doesn't have a removable sleeve anymore. Insofar as benefits over a horizontal rebuild, I only noticed a slight increase in air flow and MAYBE a bit more flavor. In the old coils, 1.65mm was the inner coil diameter I used for a rebuild. The new ones look to be about the same... maybe closer to 2 mm if the coil stretched as I pulled it out.

With the new housing, it'll be more of a pain to rebuild, but ultimately worth it due to the larger juice channels. Looks like all that needs to be done is to pull the firing pin and grommet, remove the old coil (the whole wick unravels and comes with it), and rinse. Then build a vertical coil with lots of extra lead length. Wrap the wick around it a little tighter than normal until it just barely fits through the base, keeping the leads on opposite sides of the coil and covering them with the last layer or two of the wick. Insert this tightly packed bunch into the base hole, making sure the leads are NOT aligned with the juice channels. The wick should start to unravel slightly and fill the housing, all the way out to the walls. If not, take a pick and loosen it until it does. Reinstall the grommet and pin, trim the leads. That's it. In theory. You WILL need to effectively do it all twice though, if you plan to dry fire and test for hot spots, since wicking has to be done outside the housing.

Haven't gotten around to it yet, but I will soon.
 

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Yeah, I posted the process about vertical rebuilds in the old coils in a separate thread where I reviewed the GS Air MS... no pics, though. With the new coils, vertical is pretty much the only option I can see since the chamber doesn't have a removable sleeve anymore. Insofar as benefits over a horizontal rebuild, I only noticed a slight increase in air flow and MAYBE a bit more flavor. In the old coils, 1.65mm was the inner coil diameter I used for a rebuild. The new ones look to be about the same... maybe closer to 2 mm if the coil stretched as I pulled it out.

With the new housing, it'll be more of a pain to rebuild, but ultimately worth it due to the larger juice channels. Looks like all that needs to be done is to pull the firing pin and grommet, remove the old coil (the whole wick unravels and comes with it), and rinse. Then build a vertical coil with lots of extra lead length. Wrap the wick around it a little tighter than normal until it just barely fits through the base, keeping the leads on opposite sides of the coil and covering them with the last layer or two of the wick. Insert this tightly packed bunch into the base hole, making sure the leads are NOT aligned with the juice channels. The wick should start to unravel slightly and fill the housing, all the way out to the walls. If not, take a pick and loosen it until it does. Reinstall the grommet and pin, trim the leads. That's it. In theory. You WILL need to effectively do it all twice though, if you plan to dry fire and test for hot spots, since wicking has to be done outside the housing.

Haven't gotten around to it yet, but I will soon.

Yeah, that sounds pretty logical in theory.
BUT, did any of you try to remove the top of the coil. I am not sure what it is called but it is like a very tight fit stock pot cover.
With a plier, I was able to remove this "dish" from top of the housing and reveal all open access to inside. I used a plier grabbing firmly on the small short chimney pipe in the middle on top, pried it off easily. Only that I struggled to put it back and finally did it after a while. Did it on a brand new coil and this one I put in use so it will be a few days before I attempt to do it again. That is also the logical way how this coil was made as I doubt machines were able to insert coil and wick from bottom.
 

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@Cheechako , I got the ultrasonic cleaner today. How long do you run yours and what do you put in the water?
I don't put anything in the water, just hot tap water and the machine will heat that up through the process.
It's scary how hot the water gets running in those things!
My advice is to take a couple of gunky coils and put them in for one cycle, maybe 5 minutes and check
how they coil looks then...I'm lazy, so the least amount of time is best.
This way you can gauge what length of time you want to run it...I only use soap on my vintage razor blades.
Everything else is just water!
 
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