Eleaf GS Air Fan

[David Wolf]

Input please! For those of you who have tried the new GS Air 1.2 ohm cotton coils, have you noticed more leakage into your battery 510 housing from the little tank coil "vent" hole at the bottom than you did with the original 1.5 ohm dual coils? I like the flavor of the new coils, but I cant accept fluid leakage into my new istick30's! I know back in the day of EVODs and EGOs everyone said "thats normal" and it is for those, you just clean it up.. but after being spoiled by NO leakage (there isn't even a vent hole) on my Nautilus Mini's, I don't like it. I now have one of the 1.5 ohm coils in my GS Air, and so far not getting any leakage other than a very small amount, and even that I think is moisture, and not liquid like i was getting with the 1.2 cotton coils (just put it in today, so the verdict is still out).

I don't really know what I'm doing. lol. Having said that, I've tried a lot of clearomizers - Vaporzone, CE4, CE5+, Egos, EVODs, Kanger EMOW, Nautilus Mini, now GS Air and GS M. Having said that, I know how to do a fair comparison test (the engineer in me). So far in my "test" of comparing the GS Air, GS M, and Nautilus mini this past week I have determined, for me and my personal tastes:

1. All three are equally bad at gunking up when vaping Natural Tobacco Extracts at 18 mg nic, 65/35 PG/VG. Two days, max, and I'm ready for a new coil due to the slightly burnt gunky nasty taste. Probably the best by a small amount at lasting a little longer (hours? lol) was the GS Air with original 1.5 ohm coil. Flavor-wise with a new coil, all were good. Running all at 8 to 8.5 Watts. Conclusion 1 - stick with the CE5+ and those cheap 49 cent replacement coils (like a cartridge in a way, holes in the side, mesh wrap, looks like cotton wick through a horizontal microcoil at the top., OR go to something like a Kayfun mini and start building my own (something i really do NOT want to do). I am not going to spend 4 to 6 dollars every two days replacing coils. For now, its these CE5+ babies for coil eating NETs:
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2.Vaping non-NETs - Im trying to get away from NET's all the time, and looking for good ejuices, and have several different flavors on order. meanwhile I picked up some cheap stuff at MadVapes local store, vaping watermelon (lol), 50-50 PG/VG, 18 mg Nic, in both my Nautilus Mini - 1.8 ohm cotton coils, and my GS Air 1.5 ohm (silica wick?) original coil. Flavor - both good in the beginning, maybe the Mini cotton coils had the edge. toward the end of the day, the fluid which was totally clear has yellowed in the Mini (heated flow back from coil), clear as a bell in the GS Air. Flavor at the end of the day - GS Air holding flavor, excellent. Mini - flavor is lost. I am anxious to see how when i refill both tanks, how they coils continue to hold up.

3. 90 degrees outside vaping NETs or anything with the cotton coils, lots of gurgling, cranking up watts to 9 or 10 and slower puffs,etc. same for all the tanks. With all running cotton coils - lots of leaking into battery from the GS airs, and gurgling. Minie gurgling, no leaks. easy to blow the mini out. Intersted to see how the 1.5 ohm original coils do in the same conditions. Theory - the GS Air original 1.5 ohm coils have four narrow wick slots, the new 1.2 ohm cotton coils have two wider but shorter wick slots. The nautious coils have four large holes for wicking. The narrow GS Air 1.5 ohm slots appear to be be less susceptible to flooding/gurgling so far today, with non-NETs, my nautilus gurglened, my GS Air did not. 70/30 or 50/50 PG all seem to do well with the original 1.5 ohm GS air coils.

This is the 21st century. there is no need to have a vent hole in a tank coil to vent the battery compartment like the first stick ecigs did, I think the chinese just keep doing it. haha

 

[Cheechako]

Input please! For those of you who have tried the new GS Air 1.2 ohm cotton coils, have you noticed more leakage into your battery 510 housing from the little tank coil "vent" hole at the bottom than you did with the original 1.5 ohm dual coils? I like the flavor of the new coils, but I cant accept fluid leakage into my new istick30's! I know back in the day of EVODs and EGOs everyone said "thats normal" and it is for those, you just clean it up.. but after being spoiled by NO leakage (there isn't even a vent hole) on my Nautilus Mini's, I don't like it. I now have one of the 1.5 ohm coils in my GS Air, and so far not getting any leakage other than a very small amount, and even that I think is moisture, and not liquid like i was getting with the 1.2 cotton coils (just put it in today, so the verdict is still out).

I don't really know what I'm doing. lol. Having said that, I've tried a lot of clearomizers - Vaporzone, CE4, CE5+, Egos, EVODs, Kanger EMOW, Nautilus Mini, now GS Air and GS M. Having said that, I know how to do a fair comparison test (the engineer in me). So far in my "test" of comparing the GS Air, GS M, and Nautilus mini this past week I have determined, for me and my personal tastes:

1. All three are equally bad at gunking up when vaping Natural Tobacco Extracts at 18 mg nic, 65/35 PG/VG. Two days, max, and I'm ready for a new coil due to the slightly burnt gunky nasty taste. Probably the best by a small amount at lasting a little longer (hours? lol) was the GS Air with original 1.5 ohm coil. Flavor-wise with a new coil, all were good. Running all at 8 to 8.5 Watts. Conclusion 1 - stick with the CE5+ and those cheap 49 cent replacement coils (like a cartridge in a way, holes in the side, mesh wrap, looks like cotton wick through a horizontal microcoil at the top., OR go to something like a Kayfun mini and start building my own (something i really do NOT want to do). I am not going to spend 4 to 6 dollars every two days replacing coils. For now, its these CE5+ babies for coil eating NETs:
Search - CE5+

2.Vaping non-NETs - Im trying to get away from NET's all the time, and looking for good ejuices, and have several different flavors on order. meanwhile I picked up some cheap stuff at MadVapes local store, vaping watermelon (lol), 50-50 PG/VG, 18 mg Nic, in both my Nautilus Mini - 1.8 ohm cotton coils, and my GS Air 1.5 ohm (silica wick?) original coil. Flavor - both good in the beginning, maybe the Mini cotton coils had the edge. toward the end of the day, the fluid which was totally clear has yellowed in the Mini (heated flow back from coil), clear as a bell in the GS Air. Flavor at the end of the day - GS Air holding flavor, excellent. Mini - flavor is lost. I am anxious to see how when i refill both tanks, how they coils continue to hold up.

3. 90 degrees outside vaping NETs or anything with the cotton coils, lots of gurgling, cranking up watts to 9 or 10 and slower puffs,etc. same for all the tanks. With all running cotton coils - lots of leaking into battery from the GS airs, and gurgling. Minie gurgling, no leaks. easy to blow the mini out. Intersted to see how the 1.5 ohm original coils do in the same conditions. Theory - the GS Air original 1.5 ohm coils have four narrow wick slots, the new 1.2 ohm cotton coils have two wider but shorter wick slots. The nautious coils have four large holes for wicking. The narrow GS Air 1.5 ohm slots appear to be be less susceptible to flooding/gurgling so far today, with non-NETs, my nautilus gurglened, my GS Air did not. 70/30 or 50/50 PG all seem to do well with the original 1.5 ohm GS air coils.

This is the 21st century. there is no need to have a vent hole in a tank coil to vent the battery compartment like the first stick ecigs did, I think the chinese just keep doing it. haha

Snap a toothpick off in the bottom hole of the tank, it's not needed for ventilation....leak stopped.

 

[David Wolf]

Throw it in the blender with some really good vanilla ice cream, a few ice cubes, and whatever fresh, ripe berries are available. The banana, not the e-juice!

I'd vape that.

 

[David Wolf]

Snap a toothpick off in the bottom hole of the tank, it's not needed for ventilation....leak stopped.

Excellent idea. If the 1.5 ohm coil starts leaking I will do just that! just have to make sure I push it far enough up to make sure it doesn't prevent good electrical contact.

 

[Mrmik]

Thanks! You would think, as the daughter of an electrician, I would know this!

LOL

Just think of a car, every metal piece there is negative or what we say, grounded.

 

[zoiDman]

Was poking around in my Vape Drawer looking for the Pyramid Tea Bags and I found something that might work Also for a Sleeve Wick.

Stainless Steel Mesh.

 

[Cloudmann]

How about the "Skin" off a Cotton Pad?

That's exactly what I used for the older coils. Worked like a champ. Somewhere out there in forum land I typed up a pseudo detailed process.

 

[Cloudmann]

All three are equally bad at gunking up when vaping Natural Tobacco Extracts...

The only commercial liquid I vape is Reaper Blend by Rocket Fuel Vapes... a NET hybrid. Friendlier than most NET liquids, but still a coil killer. Other than that, I use my own Frankenstein, 12 NET tobacco DIY at 100% VG and 3mg WTA and nic blend... talk about a coil killer... but man, it's good!

 

[zoiDman]

That's exactly what I used for the older coils. Worked like a champ. Somewhere out there in forum land I typed up a pseudo detailed process.

It seems to be Working Well.

I like the Idea of a Semi-Permanent type of Wick like SS Mesh. Something that could be used Again and Again. But the Mesh I found is Too Fine.

I put a Drop of e-Liquid on it and it just sat there Mocking Me. Didn't penetrate the Mesh in the Least.

I've got Pyramid Tea Bags on the Shopping list for Tomorrow.

 

[Cloudmann]

It seems to be Working Well.

I like the Idea of a Semi-Permanent type of Wick like SS Mesh. Something that could be used Again and Again. But the Mesh I found is Too Fine.

I put a Drop of e-Liquid on it and it just sat there Mocking Me. Didn't penetrate the Mesh in the Least.

I've got Pyramid Tea Bags on the Shopping list for Tomorrow.

Hmm... the pyramid teabags may not be fine enough. Possibly a flood-fest waiting to happen. Giver 'er a shot, though... no worse off.

 

[zoiDman]

Hmm... the pyramid teabags may not be fine enough. Possibly a flood-fest waiting to happen. Giver 'er a shot, though... no worse off.

Dunno till I try.

Another Member said they have used them it worked Great for them. So much though depends on the Viscosity of the e-Liquid.

What might work Great for some 50:50 e-Liquids might be Dry Hit Central for High VG sauce.

 

[Bikenstein]

True. But the convention, at least here in the US by electrical engineers, is to pretend current flows from positive to negative, i.e., "conventional flow". It's all Ben Franklin's fault I understand, he labeled positive and negative before we understood electron flow

True, but DC current still flows negative to positive. When electricity was discovered "they" thought the flow was from positive to negative. "They" were wrong. Conventional flow is wrong. They only kept conventional current to avoid confusion after the truth was discovered. Regardless of any DC diagram I use, I always view current flowing neg to pos as it does in reality. It doesn't make a difference unless it confuses an individual.
ETA: Engineers are always pretending their ideas will work.

 

[Cloudmann]

Snap a toothpick off in the bottom hole of the tank, it's not needed for ventilation....leak stopped.

Yep. I used a plastic toothpick, snipped it down to the right length, and used that... just jammed the thing in there and snipped it flush with nail clippers. I chose the plastic because it's waterproof and easy to remove if desired (i.e. when I did the video review). Had absolutely zero impact on air flow, except when the cylon slot is totally closed... just about completely cuts air flow and makes it handy to prime new coils properly.

 

[Cloudmann]

So, my 0.9 ohm test rebuild on the new coils is a go, so far. I used a heavier 28 gage wire, opened up the inner diameter to 2.4-ish mm, and wrapped her 4 and a half times... boom. Got 0.93 ohms. Near perfect. Wicked it and whatnot as described previously, and this puppy vapes an absolute treat on the Mini iStick at 20.0 watts. Not sure why... maybe the fatter coil diameter is doing something. The resistance IS 25% lower than the stock coil, but the wattage I use is identical. Really a nice coil. This might be what I settle in on for future rebuilds. The Mini fires fine down to about 0.8 ohms, so these should all work fine on it, even with a bit a variance in resistance between builds.

 

[David Wolf]

True, but DC current still flows negative to positive. When electricity was discovered "they" thought the flow was from positive to negative. "They" were wrong. Conventional flow is wrong. They only kept conventional current to avoid confusion after the truth was discovered. Regardless of any DC diagram I use, I always view current flowing neg to pos as it does in reality. It doesn't make a difference unless it confuses an individual.
ETA: Engineers are always pretending their ideas will work.

All true. What can I say, lol.

 

[David Wolf]

Well of course when I find something I like you can't get it anymore, lol. I went to Sweet Vapes to order some more of the original GS Air 1.5 ohm dual coils, and they are out of stock. I emailed asking if they are going to restock. I am hoping that they aren't just going to stock the 1.2 ohm coils now, we will see. Anyone know of any other U.S. suppliers of the GS Air 1.5 ohm dual coils? I searched and all I found were either too expensive (only 9.50 at sweet vapes when stocked) or from China, with some looking like clones, not for me.

 

[Cloudmann]

Well of course when I find something I like you can't get it anymore, lol. I went to Sweet Vapes to order some more of the original GS Air 1.5 ohm dual coils, and they are out of stock. I emailed asking if they are going to restock. I am hoping that they aren't just going to stock the 1.2 ohm coils now, we will see. Anyone know of any other U.S. suppliers of the GS Air 1.5 ohm dual coils? I searched and all I found were either too expensive (only 9.50 at sweet vapes when stocked) or from China, with some looking like clones, not for me.

Hmmm... maybe they're being phased out.

 

[LynnNC]

Here you can purchase 1 or a pack of 5 by following the directions in the listing.

Eleaf GS Air Dual Coil Replacement Heads 1.5ohm Dual Coil [gv-EleafGSAirRepHead-Dual1.5ohm] - $2.45 : GotVapes.com, E-cigarette Supplies - Atomizers Cartomizers Mods Juice and more

 

[Cloudmann]

You should still be able to do horizontal builds on the new coils.... might have to do a combination of pancake wicking and some wrapped overhang wicking inside of the chamber... it'll be challenging to figure out, but the wicking should be the toughest part... specifically, getting the density right.

 

[David Wolf]

Hmmm... maybe they're being phased out.

That's what I'm thinking but hope not. I will see if sweet vape replies to my message.