Electronic cigarette leads to unexpected landing in Norfolk

[K9Luvr]

Here's the full story

Electronic cigarette leads to unexpected landing in Norfolk | 13NEWS / WVEC.com | Hampton Roads Local News, Virginia News & Breaking News | wvec.com | News for Hampton Roads, Virginia

This is just the kind of bad press PV's don't need.

 

[Tradegal13]

I like how they used the words, "lit" and "put out." It seems to me that the guy had an attitude problem that will have a negative affect on all of us.

 

[K9Luvr]

Yea, what's with the 'lit' and 'put out'? and the related links they have show outdated info. Whoever is responsible for this should know better; instead of using it as a learning/teaching experience, he/she had to be an A$$h@le.

 

[Kimmy]

This is precisely why I don't vape in public places anymore. The way they referred to it as "refused to put it out" and "Light up" shows that no amount of explanation can make another individual understand...or listen in the first place.

vaping on a plane, in my opinion, is only asking for trouble. With the increased security at airports lately, people's general unwillingness to open their mind to new ideas, it was a poor decision on his/her part. If you must vape, go to the bathroom or hold it in your lungs and steath. The flight attendant shouldn't be forced to explain to each and every passenger what the substance resembling smoke is. Smokers have survived for many years with no nicotine on flights.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[player30]

My habits are to vape only where I could smoke, except for my house & car which I never smoked in. Many more scenes like this, and we will not be able to board with our e-cigs in our carry-on.

 

[Mary Kay]

In the time I have been on this board I have read many stories about people vaping where they shouldn't. Then they get all up in your face about it. In my opinion it's just juvenile to do something you know will get the powers that be angry..just because.
We are all fighting for the right to vape, these incidents don't help our cause at all. In face I wonder sometimes if the FDA or the people who are fighting to stop E-cigs are not the ones who put people up to it.

 

[Davo]

I love a good conspiracy… and wouldn't doubt it one bit.

 

[Clover~]

someone please tell me what thest "toxic chemicals" are!? Im so scared... I might have to smoke a cigarette to be safe! (where's the sarcasm font?)

 

[Luma]

I want to put all these inept ...... in concentration camps... All they do if physically and financially trash this planet. Sorry about the strong words but I cant hold my tongue anymore with these people.

 

[SnowDragon]

A large portion of the disconnect with the public can be placed directly on the shoulders of the e-cigarette industry. The mere name E-Cigarette causes instant confusion amongst the uninformed public leading most to believe that they are tobacco related.

The term E-cigarette more than likely became standardized through the expediency of product identification and marketing while the industry was in it's infancy. Perhaps the term Vaporette or E-Vape in hindsight would have been a more descriptive, less confusing term, unfortunately for marketing reasons such a term was never employed.

This particular story is unfortunate as I blame the uncooperative passenger completely. The fact that the issue was over the use of an e-cigarette only makes it worse.

 

[Sallyem]

Smokers have survived for many years with no nicotine on flights.
Just my 2 cents.

I'll admit I vaped in the bathroom stall at the airport for a couple minutes. But on planes, I put on a nicotine patch
before we take off. (I still have some of those around here).

 

[jtcaseyjr]

My habits are to vape only where I could smoke

I agree with you, I am the same way, except I used to smoke in my house and my car too. As far as vaping I only vape where you can smoke and of course I vape in my own home and my car.

 

[Adrenalynn]

In the time I have been on this board I have read many stories about people vaping where they shouldn't. Then they get all up in your face about it. In my opinion it's just juvenile to do something you know will get the powers that be angry..just because.
We are all fighting for the right to vape, these incidents don't help our cause at all.

Quoted for truth.

In face I wonder sometimes if the FDA or the people who are fighting to stop E-cigs are not the ones who put people up to it.

I can't really climb on board with this one - no pun intended.

Stupid people need no encouragement to be stupid. It's a birthright. They're going to dump hot coffee in their laps, feed their kids fast food "meals" without nutritional value, stick stuff up their nose that doesn't belong there, and get belligerent when told, by a private property owner, that their vaping is unwelcome.

Short of stabbing them in the face, they're going to keep right on being blithely stupid. It's what they do. And they're good at it.

 

[maxx]

We were discussing this incident in the news forum. Although everyone concluded that an airplane is not the place to take a stand and get in anyone's face....there is going to come a time when we will have to get in someone's face or be prepared to go down the same losing road we took as smokers. We gave inches, they took miles. We need to be very stingy on giving inches now.

 

[Mary Kay]

Sorry, I was just being a smart mouth..I don't believe the FDA or anyone up to anything..why waste the money? As Addy says "stupid is as stupid does!"

 

[leeshor]

I want to put all these inept ...... in concentration camps... All they do if physically and financially trash this planet. Sorry about the strong words but I cant hold my tongue anymore with these people.

Totally totally with you on that. Too many ignorant people in this world. Need to get some common sense.

 

[Adrenalynn]

Maxx - somehow I know I'll be made to regret taking a stance supporting property rights over our "right" to poison ourselves wherever and however we choose. But that's never really stopped me in the past, so hey! Without further ado:

Does that include violating private property rights?

If I don't like the tree growing in your yard, is it ok for me to drive a few copper stakes around it?

If I don't like the direction the front door of your business faces, is it ok for me to knock your building down?

Just so I understand the argument: are you endorsing wholesale shoot-outs for dominance over private property, or just special rights for vapers to violate private property rights?

If you don't like the airline's policy on vaping, aren't you free to not patronize their private establishment? If you don't like the policy of a restaurant, bar, store, et-al - aren't you free to not patronize their private property?

This doesn't look like a case of federal or even state law getting in the way. It appears that a representative of the property owner said "not on my property". Which is the entire basis for property ownership. The only two alternatives are fully-realized socialism or fully-realized anarchy: Fastest Gun Wins.

 

[Adrenalynn]

Sorry, I was just being a smart mouth..I don't believe the FDA [...]

I know. I just used you as a foil for getting to the eventual face stabbing of Maroons in my rant. Sorry - you gave me the opening and it was just too big to resist! On the up-side, you play a good "straightman".

 

[maxx]

That's a fine speech Adrenalyn, but it doesn't apply to my post much, so not sure why it was aimed there. Maybe adjust your sights. As I said, all are in agreement on this plane incident. All I am saying is that if we want to be considered soemthing other than cheating smokers, we can't expect that to happen until we make the line between smoking and vaping clear. Whether you like it or not....you, me and everyone else here are just smokers who are cheating in the eyes of the majority. And if you let them make that characterization stick....it is no different than when they made the characterization of drug addicts.....and we let them do it.

 

[Adrenalynn]

I'm wondering what you're proposing? It seems a little vague to me. If you're proposing that we not permit the federal government to enact any new legislation - then I'm right there with you. If you're proposing we try to regulate property rights away from the property owner - then I have an issue with it.