ElectronicCigaretteSales.com Juice review

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gashin

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ECIGSALES here...Actually, I do ship to Hawaii, and Alaska...Almost anywhere I don't have to fill out reams of paper work to ship to. I am older, but most of all I am Lazy, very, very Lazy. Someone else does my Post Office runs for me, and they don't do forms.
I don't ship to Illinois, because I don't pay state sales tax...and even where I could do orders that that are financially worth it to export, I think that to not speak the language is very frustrating for the customer. I know how tough it is for the Chinese to communicate with Americans...although they do seem to speak English better when you are buying something, and not returning an item... LOL.

Hi Jane,

Please post more info on your 12 hour cig! It's so hard to find!
 
OK , here's what I can tell you . It's the size of a DSE901. It is rated for 12 hours, but no battery lasts for 12 hours, unless you're not smoking it...The battery has the life of a quality Penstyle, and the same length. The cartridge gave me 8+ cigarettes worth... but honestly, I did it like a machine.12 hits, and rest. No one smokes that way. It gives reasonable smoke, consistently. It's kinda of the "Timex watch" of Mini's.There's alot more, pro and con... but really it's too much to write here.You, and anyone are welcome to contact me, privately. Also, a few forum members have them. I think they would be less biased then me.
 

gashin

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OK , here's what I can tell you . It's the size of a DSE901. It is rated for 12 hours, but no battery lasts for 12 hours, unless you're not smoking it...The battery has the life of a quality Penstyle, and the same length. The cartridge gave me 8+ cigarettes worth... but honestly, I did it like a machine.12 hits, and rest. No one smokes that way. It gives reasonable smoke, consistently. It's kinda of the "Timex watch" of Mini's.There's alot more, pro and con... but really it's too much to write here.You, and anyone are welcome to contact me, privately. Also, a few forum members have them. I think they would be less biased then me.

Hi,

Thanks for the info. I heard that it's also a Yentyl generic? Does it come with manual and auto batts? thanks!
 

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Hi,

Thanks for the info. I heard that it's also a Yentyl generic? Does it come with manual and auto batts? thanks!


It's a Yentyl generic in the sense that it's the same design atomizer, the DSE103. That's the one with the wire arch projecting above a short barrell, and the cartridge fixed inside the mouthpiece. so, it's essentially similar to the original, pre-KISSbox Yentyl.

But ONLY the KISSbox Yentyl has the manual batteries. That's Janty's own design, so I doubt there will be a generic version of it anytime soon. (OTOH, knowing those Chinese, someone may come out with a cheap knock-off. BUt it hasn't happened yet.)

As for Jane's, I don't think it performs as well as a KISSbox Yentyl, even when comparing it to a Yentyl auto battery. But it is less than half the price, so it's up to you if the extra performance is worth the price.
 

GaryW

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ECIGSALES here...Actually, I do ship to Hawaii, and Alaska...Almost anywhere I don't have to fill out reams of paper work to ship to. I am older, but most of all I am Lazy, very, very Lazy. Someone else does my Post Office runs for me, and they don't do forms.
I don't ship to Illinois, because I don't pay state sales tax...and even where I could do orders that that are financially worth it to export, I think that to not speak the language is very frustrating for the customer. I know how tough it is for the Chinese to communicate with Americans...although they do seem to speak English better when you are buying something, and not returning an item... LOL.

Ok, you don't ship to your own state because of sales tax, so I assume you don't have a sales/use tax license (that's what's it's called in PA)?

I went looking for your site based upon the good reviews for "Jane's" juice but based upon your apparent lack of even simple state licensing (trust me, you aren't exempt from use tax, and the state license is easy to obtain) and the website that barely works I can't in good faith buy any juice.

Look for some free os/carts, and find someone willing to build you a nice one if you don't have html/php skills. Get your tax license and your federal EIN if you don't have one already. PayPal is a decent soultion for a small site... be warned that if one customer complians to PP that they are dissatisfied or even worse "harmed" by your product, you will lose your PP acccount.

A real CC processor is going to cost some $$$. If you are doing decent business every month (say $2500+) then the CC fees will absorb nicely. If you are doing less than that, then plan to increase prices to absorb the cost. No CC merchant account will not even consider you until you have at least a sales tax license and a business bank account.

File your local sales tax as required and be prepared to run a real business. If you are using your home then start logging square footage for home vs. business and start deducting everthing that falls on the business side.

Just my advise, I've been running a Magic Trick business for 3 years now, and it's still not going as I had planned, but it's work. The tax deductions from "loss" are gold and if you live in the USA you should be doing this. (AIG, Fanny Mae and all the other crooks seem to do well.)

I've actually thought about doing the e-cig business, but I personally think the is a really volitle market so I'm out. But if you are going to do it, do it right, before someone more official makes you do it that way.
 
Ok, you don't ship to your own state because of sales tax, so I assume you don't have a sales/use tax license (that's what's it's called in PA)?

I went looking for your site based upon the good reviews for "Jane's" juice but based upon your apparent lack of even simple state licensing (trust me, you aren't exempt from use tax, and the state license is easy to obtain) and the website that barely works I can't in good faith buy any juice.

Look for some free os/carts, and find someone willing to build you a nice one if you don't have html/php skills. Get your tax license and your federal EIN if you don't have one already. PayPal is a decent soultion for a small site... be warned that if one customer complians to PP that they are dissatisfied or even worse "harmed" by your product, you will lose your PP acccount.

A real CC processor is going to cost some $$$. If you are doing decent business every month (say $2500+) then the CC fees will absorb nicely. If you are doing less than that, then plan to increase prices to absorb the cost. No CC merchant account will not even consider you until you have at least a sales tax license and a business bank account.

File your local sales tax as required and be prepared to run a real business. If you are using your home then start logging square footage for home vs. business and start deducting everthing that falls on the business side.

Just my advise, I've been running a Magic Trick business for 3 years now, and it's still not going as I had planned, but it's work. The tax deductions from "loss" are gold and if you live in the USA you should be doing this. (AIG, Fanny Mae and all the other crooks seem to do well.)

I've actually thought about doing the e-cig business, but I personally think the is a really volitle market so I'm out. But if you are going to do it, do it right, before someone more official makes you do it that way.
ECSi INC. hhhmmmm
You may be presumptuous in assuming anything Mr. GaryW.
There are many internet sellers that just don't want to bother with local state sales tax.
You also obviously don't know anything about Jane or her business background.
There is no doubt in my mind that you mean well, and are just trying to be helpful, and for a fledgling start up, your advise would be sound, but as I've spoken to Jane on a couple of occasions and know her background, all I can do is laugh....3 years running a Magic Trick business......you would probably be better off calling her and asking advise.....you'd be surprised and embarrassed.
 

gashin

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.... Jane's products are praised by a lot of people on this board, it's your loss if you don't want to try her liquid just because she doesn't use a credit card system :rolleyes:. You seem to be an anti-capitalist socialist - government regulations of the free market are the reason WHY our economy is failing. Keep on serving the e-cig community the way you want Jane, it's a "free" country after all.

Ok, you don't ship to your own state because of sales tax, so I assume you don't have a sales/use tax license (that's what's it's called in PA)?

I went looking for your site based upon the good reviews for "Jane's" juice but based upon your apparent lack of even simple state licensing (trust me, you aren't exempt from use tax, and the state license is easy to obtain) and the website that barely works I can't in good faith buy any juice.

Look for some free os/carts, and find someone willing to build you a nice one if you don't have html/php skills. Get your tax license and your federal EIN if you don't have one already. PayPal is a decent soultion for a small site... be warned that if one customer complians to PP that they are dissatisfied or even worse "harmed" by your product, you will lose your PP acccount.

A real CC processor is going to cost some $$$. If you are doing decent business every month (say $2500+) then the CC fees will absorb nicely. If you are doing less than that, then plan to increase prices to absorb the cost. No CC merchant account will not even consider you until you have at least a sales tax license and a business bank account.

File your local sales tax as required and be prepared to run a real business. If you are using your home then start logging square footage for home vs. business and start deducting everthing that falls on the business side.

Just my advise, I've been running a Magic Trick business for 3 years now, and it's still not going as I had planned, but it's work. The tax deductions from "loss" are gold and if you live in the USA you should be doing this. (AIG, Fanny Mae and all the other crooks seem to do well.)

I've actually thought about doing the e-cig business, but I personally think the is a really volitle market so I'm out. But if you are going to do it, do it right, before someone more official makes you do it that way.
 

leaford

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You seem to be an anti-capitalist socialist - government regulations of the free market are the reason WHY our economy is failing.

OK, not to get into politics, but are you even paying attention to what's going on now in the markets? It was a LACK of regulation and meaningful oversight that led to the morgtage and credit meltdown. I'm a free market believer, but unregulated capitalism leads to abuse. There has to be a balance, enough regulation to protect the consumers, the taxpayers, and the basic system, but not so much as to choke business and innovation.
 

gashin

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OK, not to get into politics, but are you even paying attention to what's going on now in the markets? It was a LACK of regulation and meaningful oversight that led to the morgtage and credit meltdown. I'm a free market believer, but unregulated capitalism leads to abuse. There has to be a balance, enough regulation to protect the consumers, the taxpayers, and the basic system, but not so much as to choke business and innovation.

It was the government prodding the banks to make more mortgage loans by cutting the interest rate that caused this crisis!

"
Today's financial crisis has its immediate roots in 2001, amid the end of the Internet boom and the shock of the September 11 terrorist attacks. It was at that point that the Fed turned on the monetary spigots to try to combat an economic slowdown. The Fed pumped money into the US economy and slashed its main interest rate - the Federal Funds rate - from 3.5% in August 2001 to a mere 1% by mid-2003. The Fed held this rate too low for too long.
Monetary expansion generally makes it easier to borrow, and lowers the costs of doing so, throughout the economy. It also tends to weaken the currency and increase inflation. All of this began to happen in the US.
What was distinctive this time was that the new borrowing was concentrated in housing. It is generally true that lower interest rates spur home buying, but this time, as is now well known, commercial and investment banks created new financial mechanisms to expand housing credit to borrowers with little creditworthiness. The Fed declined to regulate these dubious practices. Virtually anyone could borrow to buy a house, with little or even no down payment, and with interest charges pushed years into the future. ...


With the housing collapse lowering spending, the Fed, in an effort to ward off recession and help banks with fragile balance sheets, has been cutting interest rates since the fall of 2007. But this time, credit expansion is not flowing into housing construction, but rather into commodity speculation and foreign currency.
The Fed's easy money policy is now stoking US inflation rather than a recovery. ... Yet the Fed, in its desperation to avoid a US recession, keeps pouring more money into the system, intensifying the inflationary pressures."


One case exemplifies the power of free market capitalism: Hong Kong. They have very little regulation and very POOR customer and product services but yet they continue to prosper to become as one of the richest areas of the world.
 
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