Err help

[Ginger]

Got a battery stuck in the SB - any suggestions on how to get it out.

SB charger stopped working - so was using 18650 flat-top batt from PS - will heat or cold make the batt looser?, don't want to try the wrong thing & make it tighter.

 

[malyden]

I personally wouldn't try heating it and cold would most likely cause the metal to constrict more. Try taking the handle of a butter knife and tapping the end of the SB, hopefully that would loosen the battery enough to pop it out.

 

[Ginger]

I personally wouldn't try heating it and cold would most likely cause the metal to constrict more. Try taking the handle of a butter knife and tapping the end of the SB, hopefully that would loosen the battery enough to pop it out.

Yeah the heating/cooling worries me, I have tried tapping (banging) but nothing is loosening it. It's a flat-top battery & is below the level of the casing, there is no gap to put anything in to wiggle either - the other flat-top went in & out easy, this one went in easy, but won't come out - it must be wider at the top than bottom.

 

[halopunker]

That's weird, which type of 18650 was this?

 

[Ginger]

Looks like this one
Rechargeable Batteries & Battery Chargers - Li-Ion 18650 3.7V 2200 mAh rechargeable battery

It's the one's PS sells for the prodigy.

Edit - it says PCB, so it's probably this one http://www.all-battery.com/4tenergypcbprotectedli-ion1865037v2200mahrechargeablebatteries.aspx - but they have white tops like the first link

 

[markarich159]

That really shouldn't make any difference. It's the same size battery, and the clearance on the SB is larger then the clearance on the Prodigy. Did the Battery possibly overheat(fail) and expand? Was it possibly something got jammed between the battery and side of the SB? Grab a pair of pliers and try to gently pull it out while gently twisting.

Oh, forget the plier idea, I just re-read, and you said it's below the level of the casing. Wow, that's a tough one.

Ok, maybe you can try to cut the blue plastic battery casing off from the top somehow and pull that out. It may give you just the extra clearance you need.

 

[Ginger]

That really shouldn't make any difference. It's the same size battery, and the clearance on the SB is larger then the clearance on the Prodigy. Did the Battery possibly overheat(fail) and expand? Was it possibly something got jammed between the battery and side of the SB? Grab a pair of pliers and try to gently pull it out while gently twisting.

Oh, forget the plier idea, I just re-read, and you said it's below the level of the casing. Wow, that's a tough one.

Ok, maybe you can try to cut the blue plastic battery casing off from the top somehow and pull that out. It may give you just the extra clearance you need.

Good idea, I'll try hooking under the plastic first and save cutting to last resort.

We must have different Prodigy or SB - prodigy has more clearance.

 

[markarich159]

Good idea, I'll try hooking under the plastic first and save cutting to last resort.

I hope it works out, whatever you do, just be careful. It sounds to me like the battery might have heated up and expanded. In which case, the battery itself may be in a slightly unstable chemical state. I would wear gloves and protective eyewear of some sort. Good Luck.

 

[slowdrag]

Try boiling a pot of water and turn the sb upside down in. it should cus the aluminum to expand and let the batt fall right out.

 

[markarich159]

Try boiling a pot of water and turn the sb upside down in. it should cus the aluminum to expand and let the batt fall right out.

I don't know, the battery may already be in a chemically unstable state. To heat it up may cause additional problems. Also, the heat would also cause the battery to expand along with the Aluminum SB. Not sure what the coefficient of linear heat expansion of the battery is compared to that of the Aluminum.

 

[kc0cmp]

Got a battery stuck in the SB - any suggestions on how to get it out.

SB charger stopped working - so was using 18650 flat-top batt from PS - will heat or cold make the batt looser?, don't want to try the wrong thing & make it tighter.

Sell it to me dirt cheap and i'll worry about it!
joking aside...

What I'd do is hold it virtically like a gear shift, tightly *fisted* and swing down with all my might...and contact my knee with my forearm or wrist...the sudden stop should jar it down the tube if not out...the idea is high speed folowed by abrupt stop without banging the crap out of that mirrored finish....i recommend this over carpeted area..not concrete lol

and yes, i'd wear a rubber dish washing or other rubber glove..for traction on the super slippery mirror finish if nothing else..and in case it puked..then yeah that'd be even better rubber glove usage.

 

[doots]

try a squirt of WD40. Or babyoil down the inside toob. The batty will pop right out after a few minutes. Case solved..

 

[markarich159]

try a squirt of WD40. Or babyoil down the inside toob. The batty will pop right out after a few minutes. Case solved..

Good Call, that should work.

 

[cddz]

The SB will accomodate a maxium 19mm(.750) battery. Acording to the specs of the battery you linked it should have been a non-issue. Please be carefull when trying to remove the battery, if you can not get it out shoot me a PM.
Chad

 

[kc0cmp]

try a squirt of WD40. Or babyoil down the inside toob. The batty will pop right out after a few minutes. Case solved..

I'd be afraid of juicing it with a flamable substance like WD-40 which is among other things diesel fuel and some other petro-distillates..but thats me...i like to think i'm bold, but not quite that bold. Not sure how much conductivity WD-40 or baby oil have...but if that batt shorted or something..and if it has any charge left in it...well i'd be "skeerd" so to speak

 

[kc0cmp]

The SB will accomodate a maxium 19mm(.750) battery. Acording to the specs of the battery you linked it should have been a non-issue. Please be carefull when trying to remove the battery, if you can not get it out shoot me a PM.
Chad

I'd almost bet something went way wrong with that battery, i cant imagine one getting stuck in there as i've seen the review videos and when you drop a batt in there, there's *plenty* of wiggle room even to make up for chinese quality control..unless of course the battery gaks on itself..then they get *big*

The fact that it got "stuck" to me indicates it failed..and i dont mean one of those whimpy fails, i mean a total fail like healthcare.

 

[Ginger]

This stinks

Just broke my T100 (18650) charger trying to put the SB ultrafire batteries in it - too long - broke the positive contact inside the case.

Decided I'm too much of a wussy to try cutting the the plastic off, I can't seem to get the right angle, & being clumsy I would probably slip & pierce the battery.
12 o'clock & 6 o'clock are stuck - 3 o'clock & 9 o'clock I managed to get a piece of paper down the sides. I was going to try oil but was a bit worried about what fluid might do. Wish I understood batteries more.

kc0cmp - good try but this SB is MINE
already tried crackin the case like a whip, dropped on the carpet a few times too & hit the base a lot - it's stuck.

oooohhhh - just thought of something brb ...

 

[cddz]

This stinks

Just broke my T100 (18650) charger trying to put the SB ultrafire batteries in it - too long - broke the positive contact inside the case.

Decided I'm too much of a wussy to try cutting the the plastic off, I can't seem to get the right angle, & being clumsy I would probably slip & pierce the battery.
12 o'clock & 6 o'clock are stuck - 3 o'clock & 9 o'clock I managed to get a piece of paper down the sides. I was going to try oil but was a bit worried about what fluid might do. Wish I understood batteries more.

kc0cmp - good try but this SB is MINE
already tried crackin the case like a whip, dropped on the carpet a few times too & hit the base a lot - it's stuck.

oooohhhh - just thought of something brb ...

Sounds like the PCB shifted on that battery and that is what is stuck. Make sure to SHi* can that battery when you get it out

 

[grimmer255]

please be careful with these batteries..... your best bet is to get some rubber pliers and slowly wiggle it out.... dont use anything metal or sharp or anything with liquid....use only rubber also try rotating it with the rubber pliers.... just go to walmart save the reciept... wiggle the battery out .... give the batteries to your local dump area for batteries and take the rubber pliers back to walmart... or keep it. or if you can see the spring try to pull out the spring.

 

[Ginger]

Hi guys,

First let me apologize for the loooong brb - couldn't get back on that night just kept getting "too busy", then was on the road for a few days. I've been putting all my money into vaping supplies & don't have a working laptop atm.

I ran off to try sucking the battery out, vacuum cleaner, suction cups etc. - that didn't work too well since I couldn't get a seal - so ended up putting in a 12v cooler overnight (no moisture) & the battery had risen level with the top edge of the case by morning, not enough for me to get a grip on the battery though, left it in the unplugged cooler while I was away & tonight when I got home the spring had finally pushed the battery up enough to get hold of it & wiggle the rest of the way out.

The bad tenergy batt is 19mm at its widest & doesn't seem damaged apart from the scuff marks that show where it was stuck. There is no way you would think this would get stuck, there is a ton of wiggle room (bottom is narrower than the top) until it reaches a certain point ....

Removed the spring & tried the different batts.
1 ultrafire slides right to the bottom
1 ultrafire catches with 3mm sticking out
1 tenergy catches with 4mm sticking out
1 tenergy catches with 17mm sticking out < this is the one that got stuck

(catches - just means feeling resistance & having to "push" battery in further)

So got a straight edge and lined the bad batt up - when the top touches the straight edge, the bottom is 3mm away - no wonder the damn thing got stuck if the case is 19mm. So just QC on the batteries, one that was ~1mm wider than spec, and pretty easy to test for from now on. Looks like height as well as width are pretty variable, the ultrafire that broke my Tenergy TL100 charger was 68mm + button top, max opening on the charger was 69mm minus contacts - well duh, lesson learned.

So from 2 companies 50% of my batteries were not within spec, only 0.5mm/1mm out but that can sometimes be enough to cause problems. Guess I need more batteries than I thought & more chargers

Going to go catch up on some sleep now.