EU outlines smoking crackdown plans

[Petrodus]

EU outlines smoking crackdown plans

Current pictorial health warnings will more than double in size and the rules will extend to products not specifically covered so far, such as "electronic" cigarettes and herbal smoking products. Chewing and nasal tobacco will have to have specific labelling and controls on ingredients. An existing ban on "snus" - chewing tobacco - remains.

"Consumers must not be cheated: tobacco products should look and taste like tobacco products and this proposal ensures that attractive packaging and flavourings are not used as a marketing strategy."

 

[rolygate]

See more on the ECCA blog about this:

EU Tobacco Directive - E-Liquid to be banned ? - Blog

 

[jazon1]

sounds like you guys might get stuck with tobacco flavored juice and very low nic,might want to start to DYI your own flavors and stock up on some 100mg nic.

 

[VapApe]

Can you say black market flavored tobacco sold on the street corner.

 

[jazon1]

i dont see why they would think this would be a good idea its just going to cause and outbreakout of small nic over doses from people deriving nicotine from other tobacco products to use in there ecigs and not having any clue as to the dosages there actually using.

 

[Vocalek]

Reasons I can think of off the top of my head why the EU approach will work to perpetuate smoking.

1. The nicotine dosage they want to implement might work for those who are only using e-cigs to (using the words of the ANTZ) "circumvent smoking bans," but smoke whenever and wherever they can. That low dosage will be insufficient for those who seek a low risk complete replacement for smoking.
2. Most who stop smoking by conventional means continue to report urges to smoke for years afterwards. In contrast, some who switch to e-cigarettes have no urges to light up. Research is needed to verify the validity of my observation that switching to a non-tobacco flavor seems to help extinguish the smoking urge.
3. Only 16.7% of participants in CASAA's 2010 survey of consumers said that they "never" use non-tobacco flavors, and 70.1% reporting using flavors at least occasionally, and 18.1% said they use non-tobacco flavors "often," with 17.5% saying "always."
4. If only pre-filled cartriges are permitted, the cost to use e-cigs will be higher. If costs go above what it costs to smoke, that will act as a deterrant to quitting by switching.

Reasons I can think of why the EU approach will be harmful.
1. Many who switched completely to e-cigarettes use higher doses. Specifically, the CASAA consumer survey showed that only 3.1% use 0 nicotine. So, 96.9% use liquids containing nicotine. The next highest dose we listed (since it is typically the smallest dose above zero being offered by vendors) was 6 mg/ml, and only 5.1% use that. The most popular dose at 24 mg/ml is used by 26.8%. Results: https://www.surveymonkey.com/sr.aspx?sm=HrpzL8PN5cP366RWhWvCTjggiZM_2b8yQJHfwE9UXRNhE_3d
2. There is danger that those who require higher doses will turn to a black market or relapse to smoking.
3. There is danger that those who want pleasant flavors will begin to DIY instead of purchasing commercially available (and presumably at some point, regulated) liquid.

 

[tommy2bad]

Actually what they have created is the mythical 'gateway product' as 2 or 4 mg nic freely available will only serve to lure people onto nic thus generating customers for first big tobacco then big pharma and the quit relapse merry go round.
This directive reads like it was written by a collaboration of big tobacco and big pharma as only their products are protected from competition.
Whole things stinks of corporate written legislation and government corruption.

 

[NorthOfAtlanta]

Tommy, read my post in Bill Godshall's thread in legislation news, I think we smelled the same thing.