eVic and amp question again!

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KillTheNoise

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Totally not what I asked, sorry to sound rude.

I'm asking this...once you get to 2.5 amps (which is 10 watts OR 4 volts on a 1.6 ohm device) will going higher in watts or voltage ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING? Or, will it simply let you adjust higher and keep you at this 2.5 amp limit?


example - My 1.6ohm RDA is currently on 4.1V (or 10.5W) according to my eVic. When I goto 4.2 or higher, I hit the 2.5 amp (or 11 watt) DISPLAYED setting.

Is going to these higher volts (4.2-5) actually letting me get a TRUE 4.2-5 volt vape?
 

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And I do not "NEED" to go higher than 15 watts, in reality I don't honestly know if I am getting anywhere close to 15 watts on the eVic because of this amperage limitation.

I like to experiment and learn...there's nothing wrong with that.

In theory, im getting 15.625 watts when using the displayed 5 volts on this 1.6ohm coil...however it's at an amp reading of 3.125...which is well above the 2.5 limit.

Does this explain my question any better?
 

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I was not trying to be rude either. That is why I suggested switching the setting to VW. I know in VW mode it is reading true and will show you exactly what wattage/voltage it is going to. It will not let you adjust past it's calculated maximum safe settings.
Using v1.2 I can have all info on screen to get the readings.

My IGO-L with 1.8 coil hits the MAX 11w @ 4.44v on My evic running a Pani CGR freshly charged

Switching to VV it shows 5v (the max available) and 11w (True output)

ETA - for a good cheap device to experiment with higher output I would highly recommend a Vamo. Their do an excellent job for cheap.
 
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Only thing I can think is inline measuring? One of those multimeter hookups I've seen around maybe. That would show the true voltage coming into the atomizer, and I think they are relatively easy to build. I've seen em for sale but seemed pricey.

I'm trying to see data like something like this puts out.

I've just recently found out I love low ohms...and finding out this question will decide for me rather to or not to buy another device.

The VAMO is looking really promising, but I haven't done enough research to decide which device to get yet. I want something with a high amp limit and variable voltage or power.
 

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No, if it actually reads higher - ie 11.6 - it is putting out 11.6. It is not going to read anything higher than it is producing though.

Volts is 5v Max and governed by resistance.
Watts in v1.2 Is also limited - I thought to 11w but it may be 12w

The amp limitation so far has not been confirmed as Hardware, however it is locked by the firmware. Still, it is likely not over 3 amps.
 

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In version 1.2 maximum wattage displayed on the screen is only 11.

However you can surpass that 11 watts on the display with a low enough resistance coil by using voltage.

I'm just trying to figure out if you're actually getting OVER that 11 watts displayed when going a higher voltage. It tastes/feels like it, but that may just be a placebo effect.

I needs PROOF!

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eVic Firmwareupgrade v1.1 » Mountain Prophet

It's in German but answers your question. The eVic throttles voltage past 11W, so no, it will not go past 11W even in VV mode with a low res atty. And it doesn't seem to be dead nuts accurate but in the ballpark.

I have both the eVic and the Vamo. The Vamo is heavier and feels sturdier but actually looks more cheaply made IMO. The Vamo is also much larger. With the Vamo you can stack 18350's which actually gives better performance over a single 18350/18650 from my own testing, but again it's huge. Also, battery rattle is a problem. Stacked or single 18350 isn't an issue, but a single 18650, even button top, can rattle around and shut the device off. Stretching the spring seems to help a little bit, but when you go back to stacked 18350, don't overtighten or you'll compress the spring again and have to keep stretching it. Also, there is a gap between the base of the tube and the end cap with stacked 18350, which isn't too big an issue but is noticeable...and adds just that much more length to an already long device. The Vamo does seem to give a warmer vape given the same power settings between the two, though the eVic seems to burn a bit more smooth than the more "pop & crackle" of the Vamo. I definitely like the looks of the eVic much better, and the screen and data present is MUCH better and more elegantly displayed. Honestly for raw horsepower, I'd have to give it to the Vamo, but for an all around better device (size, weight, display, feel) I'd give it to the eVic. They do perform similarly.

That being said, I've been converted to low-res RBA's and mechanical mods. Neither the Vamo nor eVic come close in performance, feel, heft, or style to a <1 ohm 28awg coiled Genesis style RBA on a mechanical mod. I've tried higher resistances using the Vamo and eVic, single 18350/18650, stacked 18350 on the Vamo, single coil, dual coil/dual wick, from 1.3-2.4 ohm, and they just don't come close. But if clearomizers/vivi novas/carto tanks are your thing, then VV/VW is the way to go.
 
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I just feel like if I get a mechanical mod I'll also need a kick and new batteries to go with it, pushing my wallet to the limit.

Ugh...I feel like i'm going to need a Natural, 4 AW IMR 18350s, and a kick. :(

The minute you kick a mechanical you are right back to a VW but without the flexibility. You also loose the Low ohm capability as the kick will shut down to protect itself.
 

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The minute you kick a mechanical you are right back to a VW but without the flexibility. You also loose the Low ohm capability as the kick will shut down to protect itself.

Just because you use a kick in a mech. mod does not mean you lose the flexibility.Yes you are back to VW,because we,or i,like to use a kick every now and then.I also take the kick OUT,when i decide to put my low ohm coil back on the mod.Still flexible,just my personal preference to use a kick when i feel like it.
 

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Just because you use a kick in a mech. mod does not mean you lose the flexibility.Yes you are back to VW,because we,or i,like to use a kick every now and then.I also take the kick OUT,when i decide to put my low ohm coil back on the mod.Still flexible,just my personal preference to use a kick when i feel like it.

My post was to inform the OP the Kick itself would put him in the same boat without the instant adjustment capability. He already has a VW mod so the added expense of the kick is not necessary.
 

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My post was to inform the OP the Kick itself would put him in the same boat without the instant adjustment capability. He already has a VW mod so the added expense of the kick is not necessary.

Easy it was not my intent to get anyone angry i was just saying you still have the flexibility even with the kick that is all.
 

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I'm asking this...once you get to 2.5 amps (which is 10 watts OR 4 volts on a 1.6 ohm device) will going higher in watts or voltage ACTUALLY DO ANYTHING? Or, will it simply let you adjust higher and keep you at this 2.5 amp limit?
You can turn the voltage up, but 11 watts is the limit.

I'm running the eVic on an AGA-T2 with 30ga wire at 1.7Ω. 4.2v is the limit at slightly below 11 watts. I can turn the voltage all the way to 5 volts, but nothing more actually happens after 4.2 volts. The eVic Menu does not seem to indicate the voltage limits.
 
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