Evic and SID battery compatible ?

[xxJollyRogerxx]

So I was looking at getting a Smoktech SID which suggested getting a Efest IMR 18650 LiMn 2000 mah flat top for it but the site also said that battery was compatible with an eVic as well. The eVic battery replacement is a Samsung ICR18650-26F 18650 3.7V 2600mAh.

Does anyone know if I can swap these batteries back and forth between the 2 mods? I am just not sure as one is 2000 and the other is 2600 or could I use the Samsung battery in the SID? I just can't really located any information on the web that definitively tells me that they can and I would obviously hate to blow something out as well.

Also, what type charger do you guys use that is dependable and not a POS?

 

[anumber1]

The battery that came with the eVic is an older, less desirable design. It is a more volatile chemistry and not desirable for use in a vaporizer.

The efest you are looking at is a safer chemistry and more suited for your purpose.

For longer run time a Panasonic NCR18650PF is an outstanding battery to use in both the SID and an eVic.

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[xxJollyRogerxx]

Thanks for the info! So it seems that I should only be concerned with the size (18650)? I also see there is a 3400 that would fit my eVic as well. How do I determine if a mod say the SID could handle the 3400? What stats of the mod do you need to pay attention when picking out a battery for it? I guess that is what I am wondering as well

 

[anumber1]

You want a high drain battery in your regulated mods. The 3400mAh Panasonic NCR18650B is not a high drain battery and has a 6.8 amp continuous draw rating. Right on the edge of what you need for the SID.

The Panasonic ncr18650pf is high drain, 10 amp and 2900 mAh.

I have used both panny batteries in my SID and find the 18650pf to last just as long as the 18650b and do so with a wider safety margin regarding max amp limits.

Keep in mind that these mAh ratings are based on discharging the batteries down to 2.5v. Your mods will not go that low. The SID will cut off at 3.2 volts. Not using the full mAh that those ratings were based on.

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[Baditude]

Battery manufacturers and vendors do us no favors in knowing which batteries are best for our particular applications. Perhaps its because we are borrowing the technology used by other hobbies/professions, such as flashlight enthusiasts, remote control hobbyists, etc.

Basically there are two types of batteries which are available to us for our mods.

• IMR - these are high drain, safe chemistry batteries best suited to our needs. Often called unprotected or Li-Mn batteries. These are the best & safest batteries for use in a mod. Examples are the red AW and Efest IMR batteries. A sub-group of these batteries are the new "hybrid" batteries - a mix of ICR and IMR batteries. Examples are the green Sony and Panasonic batteries. The NCR18650B 3400mah Panasonic battery mentioned previously is a hybrid battery whose chemistry is heavily weighted to the ICR side of the fence to where it is no longer a high drain battery.
  
  
• ICR - these are low drain, volatile chemistry batteries best suited for cameras, flashlights, and computers. Usually listed as a Li-ion battery or "high capacity" (high mah). At one time these were suggested for our mods, but with better technology the IMR and hybrid batteries are now recommended over ICR batteries. You'll still see some older publications recommending protected batteries for a mod - disregard those recommendations. Use IMR high-drain, safe-chemistry batteries only.

Battery Basics for Mods: IMR or Protected ICR?

Deeper Understanding of Mod Batteries

 

[anumber1]

Just to add abit of info:

I also have an eVic that I use with protanks and other clearomizers (my wife has pretty much taken it from me).
The eVic is a slightly less powerful device than the SID (eVic has a max output of 5v/11watts) (the SID is a 15watt device). While I do not have the specifications for the max draw that the eVic will demand from a battery, I don't think it will exceed the limits of the Panasonic NCR18650B, However, I have noticed no less runtime from the eVic when using the NCR18650PF batteries in it. I haven't done a direct comparison between the two panasonics (as in actually charting average runtime between the two batteries) but the runtime is roughly the same in my subjective comparisons (the 18650PF seems to go a bit longer actually).

I like the NCR18650PF and have found genuine ones on Fasttech for very little money ($11 for two!). At that price, I feel a person cannot go wrong. The NCR18650B seems to command double the price and is not going to yield significantly better runtime in my experience.

 

[xxJollyRogerxx]

Ok that is kinda funny "flashlight enthusiasts". Thanks baditude the blog post helped. The battery tech just seems to keep changing like with now the protection circuit addition. I'm busy LOL i just needed something simple like look for X specs for it.
Just once i think i find certain things to look for in the specs that i find something else like the length. It fits this but doesn't fit that; very annoying. But i guess that s the nature of the beast to an non-standard market place.
anumber1, exactly what was looking for i just don't want to have to worry about which battery goes into which mod i definitely need all my batteries to work in which ever mod as that would just too much to keep up with you know?