eVic Supreme owners

[tchavei]

Sorry if I sounded harsh. I had just woke up when I replied and couldn't find the smileys on my phone lol.


Regards
Tony

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[Darr00742]

no worries, I just would like joyetech to exploit the full (maybe full ?) potential of the evic and expand options to allow more personal preference.
and keeping with V2.2... I always have puff count during the day, to measure battery life according to VW settings... I would like to be able to display the temp below that, I know you can change it but for me.. I like convenience, and minimal button pressing while extending the life of the twist/toggle switch.

And DAMN! wish it was capable of sound schemes!

 

[tchavei]

Yeah, why not let us personalise the screen fully?

I dropped 1.1 because the info on the screen is ridiculous... 3 times the battery status? Get a life lol.

I wouldn't mind some coding if necessary but they definitely should release the sdk for us to play with it.

Regards
Tony

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[taxciter]

My observation is that the eVic-S reads coil resistance when turned on, when turned on after battery replacement, when awakened from sleep, and, if on, during the moment when the atty is connected. There is a problem with that last one.
When the atty is screwed on, the resistance recorded is consistently higher by a small amount, usually 0.2 to 0.3 ohms higher than the atty's rated resistance value. (I'm guessing because there actually is a momentarily higher resistance during partial contact.)
So this necessitates at least going in and out of Sleep mode after installing the atty with the eVic-S on.
Also, going through the menus to Device | Atomizer (Ohm symbol) does not take a new measurement. Also a problem, as the displayed message "Detecting" is not true.
This can result in Wattage at least 1 Watt higher than your Wattage setting, greater than 3 Watts at lower resistance.
I'm using V 2.2 software/firmware.
Anyone else experiencing this?

 

[tchavei]

No, sorry. I built a coil yesterday at 1.31 Ohms and it's detected at 1.3 Ohms.
If you go into the device menu and choose atomizer sub menu it appears to be constantly monitoring resistance because you can screw in /out the atty and get different values.

I believe the whole detection thing is bogus. It's monitoring the resistance in real time (and that's probably the reason the battery drains even if you're not firing the mod)
Try this: look at the main screen and start unscrewing your atty. You will notice that the moment you break contact, the evic will display 0.0 Ohms. The only way for this to happen in just microseconds is that the board is monitoring the resistance constantly. If it would only detect the atty and then stop monitoring it would be unaware of a atty removal... This happens on the sigelei zMax that only monitors the atty resistance during firing but not always.

Regards
Tony

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[inswva]

I'm finally seeing these things for sub-$100 now. Lowest price I've seen via some quick searching is $99.99. Anyone have a lead to get a NIB unit cheaper than that? I really just want one so I can hybrid my Lemo, lol... and that compulsion isn't quite worth $100. It might be worth $89.95 though.

 

[taxciter]

No, sorry. I built a coil yesterday at 1.31 Ohms and it's detected at 1.3 Ohms.
If you go into the device menu and choose atomizer sub menu it appears to be constantly monitoring resistance because you can screw in /out the atty and get different values.

I believe the whole detection thing is bogus. It's monitoring the resistance in real time (and that's probably the reason the battery drains even if you're not firing the mod)
Try this: look at the main screen and start unscrewing your atty. You will notice that the moment you break contact, the evic will display 0.0 Ohms. The only way for this to happen in just microseconds is that the board is monitoring the resistance constantly. If it would only detect the atty and then stop monitoring it would be unaware of a atty removal... This happens on the sigelei zMax that only monitors the atty resistance during firing but not always.

Regards
Tony

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Tony, I just verified a couple things by adding and removing a non-resistive wire and then a 10 Ohm resistor in parallel to the coil while in RW and then in RVW mode.
The eVic-S will immediately react to a short circuit, and display 0 Ohms (and 0° temperature - go figure...). Of course, as you pointed out, it will also react to an open circuit (removal of the atty) and display the same 0 Ohms and 0°.
It will not react "real-time" to a decrease in resistance from 1.8 to 1.5 Ohms, it will not re measure resistance when fired, and it will not re measure that change via the Device menu. This tells me that the "heartbeat" signal may be used at times to measure and report resistance, but it does not happen except when the atty is removed (change to open circuit), atty is attached (change from open to normal value), atty connection shorts out (change from normal to very low value), or during one of the other events I previously described.
I imagine the measurement current pulses (heartbeats) can overlap the moment in time when the atty is connecting, and the designers should have allowed for this and measured heartbeats only after the atty is fully seated.
Anyway, the thing that bothers me is that I can screw on a 1.8 Ohm atty and the eVic-S will read it as 2 to 2.5 Ohms and keep that value. Then I turn it on and off and it reads a more accurate value of 1.8 or 1.9 Ohms.

 

[tchavei]

I stand corrected then. I guess when I wiggled the atty to get a different resistance, I must have been also disconnecting it inadvertently so that the mod would re read the resistance :/

What I think is stupid is that the evic has to be monitoring constantly the connection to know if an atty is removed so why not calculate the resistance? Shouldn't be much harder on the chip I think.

Anyway, my best setup right now is screen off after 1 minute, screensavers off, power down in 10 min and using torchy Batts 18350... Two are enough for a day at work without any Micro USB recharging in between... Small enough not to look ridiculous and still perfectly functional.


Regards
Tony

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[taxciter]

What I think is stupid is that the evic has to be monitoring constantly the connection to know if an atty is removed so why not calculate the resistance? Shouldn't be much harder on the chip I think.

Yep, Tony. Stupid.
I wish I knew exactly who writes the firmware so I could make suggestions directly to them. I have posted to Joytech's site via their Contact | Valuable Suggestions form.