eVic vs. VTR ... 24 hours in ... my take on it

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Okay, so here it is, my attempt at a comparison between my beloved eVic and my new VTR.

My eVic is a tried and true vaping machine in my arsenal. It is a relatively lightweight device that I can hold all day long, good thing because when you set it down it likes to roll off the table. It has all kinds of cool features. VV/VW, Puff counter, date/time, battery indicator, usb charging/upgrading, software habit tracking, customizable control head, custom vaping profiles, ez adjust dial, ohm checker, puff timer, automatic puff time, 10 second cutoff, dim black/white display, aluminum tube, standard 18650 battery, most of which I have not used in the nearly 6 months I've vaped with it daily.

The VTR is an up and coming vaping monstrosity of a weapon in my arsenal. No, really, I mean it the VTR weighs a metric ton and could be used to kill someone! It has a respectable amount of useful features, VV/VW, Ohm checker, nice blue visible display, 10 second cutoff, ez adjust dial, ez change 18650 battery, all of which I've used in the last 24 hours.

You might think there was a clear winner here, but wait, that's only half the story. Lets start with weight, while I like the fact that the VTR can be used to fend off a mugger, it is downright heavy and I find I set it down a lot. As a result, it seems to be very solidly built, and will hopefully last a long time. I don't worry about it breaking if I drop it, on the contrary I worry more about breaking a toe if I can't get my foot out of the way fast enough. The eVic on the other hand is a fairly lightweight device that I can hold for hours, and not even realize I'm holding it. This is due to the aluminum tube and mostly plastic construction of the control head. I have lived in fear of breaking it if I dropped it, like so many others have done. So far it has held up pretty well to the abuse I've put it through, but I can't say if it always will.

The next part of the story is the battery life. The eVic will run all day on my 2600mAh battery. With my normal vaping habits, I can vape from the time I get up until an hour or two before I head for bed. In fact, I have almost come to rely on it as my evening timer, when the battery goes on the charger, I realize what time it is and start shutting down for the day. There is even a pretty nice battery display that gives me a countdown from 100% to 0% before it dies. If I vape heavier than normal, I can always throw the control head on my 18350 800mAh battery to get me through, The VTR, in it's first full run, did not last nearly as long as the eVic on the same 2600mAh battery. I got pretty good solid usage out of it, but it was dead long before my eVic would have been, by about 3 hours. I had to break out a second battery to keep me going until I was ready to call it a night. So far, there is no 18350 adapter for the VTR, but even if there were, I suspect I would only get a couple hours out of my 800mAh batteries. To really make this a problem however is the crappy Innokin design for battery life, The fire button glows Green, Amber, Red, and provides no really useful information on how much charge remains.

Now we move onto size. The eVic on the stock aluminum tube does not fit very well in the pockets of most of my clothes. It is a pretty long device, especially with a tank on it. I have lost a couple of drip tips (thankfully cheap ones) that fell off the top of the eVic while it was sticking out of my pocket. The VTR on the other hand fits pretty nicely in my pocket, even if the drip tip falls off, it will be somewhere in the bottom of my pocket, plus I can get an awesome looking leather holster for it. As soon as I have my concealed carry kit I will be picking up one of those holsters!

Finally I'm going to cover performance. The eVic with my Protank 2 or iSmoka BCC Mega, hits well and produces a nice throat hit. Further, it generates a lot of "smoke" regardless of which tank is on it. It has been enough to keep me going in my efforts to quit smoking, and better than the cig-a-likes I started with. The VTR, with the SAME tanks, and set at an identical setting to the eVic, really hits hard and and has a strong throat hit. Surprisingly it seems to produce 1.5 - 2 times the vapor of the eVic. I'm not sure why it works this way, but I do think this may be part of the reason battery life is so poor.

So to close this out, the race is currently too close to call. I can't declare a victor yet because as good as the VTR is, the eVic is just as good in many areas. If it were a simple matter (for me) of performance, pocket-ability and durability, then the VTR would win hands down. However, if it were a matter of features, knowing exactly how long my battery will last, and producing enough vapor to keep me off analogs, then the eVic would win. If Innokin adds a true battery display, fixes battery life performance, and reduces the weight a bit in the next VTR release, then it will replace my eVic and current VTR.

I hope you have found this useful!
 
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Okay, so here it is, my attempt at a comparison between my beloved eVic and my new VTR.

My eVic is a tried and true vaping machine in my arsenal. It is a relatively lightweight device that I can hold all day long, good thing because when you set it down it likes to roll off the table. It has all kinds of cool features. VV/VW, Puff counter, date/time, battery indicator, usb charging/upgrading, software habit tracking, customizable control head, custom vaping profiles, ez adjust dial, ohm checker, puff timer, automatic puff time, 10 second cutoff, dim black/white display, aluminum tube, standard 18650 battery, most of which I have not used in the nearly 6 months I've vaped with it daily.

The VTR is an up and coming vaping monstrosity of a weapon in my arsenal. No, really, I mean it the VTR weighs a metric ton and could be used to kill someone! It has a respectable amount of useful features, VV/VW, Ohm checker, nice blue visible display, 10 second cutoff, ez adjust dial, ez change 18650 battery, all of which I've used in the last 24 hours.

You might think there was a clear winner here, but wait, that's only half the story. Lets start with weight, while I like the fact that the VTR can be used to fend off a mugger, it is downright heavy and I find I set it down a lot. As a result, it seems to be very solidly built, and will hopefully last a long time. I don't worry about it breaking if I drop it, on the contrary I worry more about breaking a toe if I can't get my foot out of the way fast enough. The eVic on the other hand is a fairly lightweight device that I can hold for hours, and not even realize I'm holding it. This is due to the aluminum tube and mostly plastic construction of the control head. I have lived in fear of breaking it if I dropped it, like so many others have done. So far it has held up pretty well to the abuse I've put it through, but I can't say if it always will.

The next part of the story is the battery life. The eVic will run all day on my 2600mAh battery. With my normal vaping habits, I can vape from the time I get up until an hour or two before I head for bed. In fact, I have almost come to rely on it as my evening timer, when the battery goes on the charger, I realize what time it is and start shutting down for the day. There is even a pretty nice battery display that gives me a countdown from 100% to 0% before it dies. If I vape heavier than normal, I can always throw the control head on my 18350 800mAh battery to get me through, The VTR, in it's first full run, did not last nearly as long as the eVic on the same 2600mAh battery. I got pretty good solid usage out of it, but it was dead long before my eVic would have been, by about 3 hours. I had to break out a second battery to keep me going until I was ready to call it a night. So far, there is no 18350 adapter for the VTR, but even if there were, I suspect I would only get a couple hours out of my 800mAh batteries. To really make this a problem however is the crappy Innokin design for battery life, The fire button glows Green, Amber, Red, and provides no really useful information on how much charge remains.

Now we move onto size. The eVic on the stock aluminum tube does not fit very well in the pockets of most of my clothes. It is a pretty long device, especially with a tank on it. I have lost a couple of drip tips (thankfully cheap ones) that fell off the top of the eVic while it was sticking out of my pocket. The VTR on the other hand fits pretty nicely in my pocket, even if the drip tip falls off, it will be somewhere in the bottom of my pocket, plus I can get an awesome looking leather holster for it. As soon as I have my concealed carry kit I will be picking up one of those holsters!

Finally I'm going to cover performance. The eVic with my Protank 2 or iSmoka BCC Mega, hits well and produces a nice throat hit. Further, it generates a lot of "smoke" regardless of which tank is on it. It has been enough to keep me going in my efforts to quit smoking, and better than the cig-a-likes I started with. The VTR, with the SAME tanks, and set at an identical setting to the eVic, really hits hard and and has a strong throat hit. Surprisingly it seems to produce 1.5 - 2 times the vapor of the eVic. I'm not sure why it works this way, but I do think this may be part of the reason battery life is so poor.

So to close this out, the race is currently too close to call. I can't declare a victor yet because as good as the VTR is, the eVic is just as good in many areas. If it were a simple matter (for me) of performance, pocket-ability and durability, then the VTR would win hands down. However, if it were a matter of features, knowing exactly how long my battery will last, and producing enough vapor to keep me off analogs, then the eVic would win. If Innokin adds a true battery display, fixes battery life performance, and reduces the weight a bit in the next VTR release, then it will replace my eVic and current VTR.

I hope you have found this useful!

Good review. Question. If you notice the VTR is producing more vapor, more throat hit, and hit's harder, why not simply dial it back a bit? The result might just be a more comparable performance vis–à–vis your beloved eVic, and longer lasting battery life.

These devices are relatively cheap, mass produced machines. If they were manufactured to a high enough quality to ensure a reliable, and comparable volt, watt, amp, etc. delivery, they'd cost far more. I work in a laboratory, and as an example, an infrared thermometer that might cost $25 at Harbor Freight Tools, will probably cost $200+ from a scientific supply company. But, it would come with a certification document that guaranties it's accuracy, and could be used in a court of law, if needed.

best regards, larry mac
 
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good job on the comparison. I too have both and it's a tough call. did you vape the vtr til it goes red? yellow is around only half way. I top up early so I have no idea how long they last but they seem to go forever.

Thank you, I actually vaped it until the battery died, mostly because I didn't know how long "Red" meant I had left.
 

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Great review - I am an Evic addict (I have 3 evics and 2 Easy Heads, lol.) I have had Innokins in the past and while they are SOLID as a rock, I have had trouble with all of them with the center pins. Innokins do not like Protanks! I also do not like the green-yellow-red thing.

I will watch for signs of trouble, I love my Protanks!
 

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Good review. Question. If you notice the VTR is producing more vapor, more throat hit, and hit's harder, why not simply dial it back a bit? The result might just be a more comparable performance vis–à–vis your beloved eVic, and longer lasting battery life.

Hey larry mac,

Thanks for bringing this up, what I neglected to put in the write up is that I did dial it back to match performance. What I did was some quick experiments with several different tanks to see if the performance issue was consistent or if it was only with certain juices/tank combos. This was also only the first 24 hours I have owned it, so I have not had a chance to really get a good long term feel for it yet. I hope to do another write up in a week or two, after I have been able to spend some real quality time with it.
 

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Thanks for sharing this. It's really helpful to get a detailed, real world comparison!

Hey 440BB,

You're welcome. I couldn't find a lot of real world comparisons when i was looking to purchase the VTR, so I thought maybe I could get some info out there for people that might be wondering ... Of course, this is only MY experience, YMMV!
 

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I have had Innokins in the past and while they are SOLID as a rock, I have had trouble with all of them with the center pins. Innokins do not like Protanks! I also do not like the green-yellow-red thing.

I dont have an evic. FWIW.
I thought I might chime in here though. It really is heavy and may not be for everyone. I have taken my VTR out on short trips. I like that the tank may be protected a bit if I dropped it.
I don't have problems with Kanger and Davide protanks on my Innokin products. I only use Kanger or Davide protanks now. I have had problems with other Innokin products mainly reading the resistance of coils on Vivi`s and protank clones. The VTR and the SVD have floating (spring loaded?) center pins so I don't have as many problems with them reading resistance of tanks. The MVP and VV3 have fixed center pins so they are a bit more trouble reading resistance of tanks. I am guessing this might have something to do with it. I am not sure. I love the fact that I can read the resistance of a tank with the device. That could help me figure out a problem with a tank.

The VTR will read Lou on the readout screen when the battery is low. I don't pay much attention to the light on the VTR for the battery life. When the light is yellow I put in a charged battery most of the time. It would be nice if the VTR had a battery meter. I suppose that would be hard with so many different batteries you can buy but I'm not sure.

:vapor: I kind of dig the light show when I turn them on though.:vapor:
 

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I use an AW 2000mAh battery ( also a 2900 xtar batttery) and empty over a day two iClear 30S. I run this battery until the led gets red and even then it will run for hours.
Sometimes i start fully charged at 8am and go to bed at midnight and the led is red but never it shut down because of a flat battery.
Even when the led is red its not that close of shutting down.
 

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Okay, so here it is, my attempt at a comparison between my beloved eVic and my new VTR.

My eVic is a tried and true vaping machine in my arsenal. It is a relatively lightweight device that I can hold all day long, good thing because when you set it down it likes to roll off the table. It has all kinds of cool features. VV/VW, Puff counter, date/time, battery indicator, usb charging/upgrading, software habit tracking, customizable control head, custom vaping profiles, ez adjust dial, ohm checker, puff timer, automatic puff time, 10 second cutoff, dim black/white display, aluminum tube, standard 18650 battery, most of which I have not used in the nearly 6 months I've vaped with it daily.

The VTR is an up and coming vaping monstrosity of a weapon in my arsenal. No, really, I mean it the VTR weighs a metric ton and could be used to kill someone! It has a respectable amount of useful features, VV/VW, Ohm checker, nice blue visible display, 10 second cutoff, ez adjust dial, ez change 18650 battery, all of which I've used in the last 24 hours.

You might think there was a clear winner here, but wait, that's only half the story. Lets start with weight, while I like the fact that the VTR can be used to fend off a mugger, it is downright heavy and I find I set it down a lot. As a result, it seems to be very solidly built, and will hopefully last a long time. I don't worry about it breaking if I drop it, on the contrary I worry more about breaking a toe if I can't get my foot out of the way fast enough. The eVic on the other hand is a fairly lightweight device that I can hold for hours, and not even realize I'm holding it. This is due to the aluminum tube and mostly plastic construction of the control head. I have lived in fear of breaking it if I dropped it, like so many others have done. So far it has held up pretty well to the abuse I've put it through, but I can't say if it always will.

The next part of the story is the battery life. The eVic will run all day on my 2600mAh battery. With my normal vaping habits, I can vape from the time I get up until an hour or two before I head for bed. In fact, I have almost come to rely on it as my evening timer, when the battery goes on the charger, I realize what time it is and start shutting down for the day. There is even a pretty nice battery display that gives me a countdown from 100% to 0% before it dies. If I vape heavier than normal, I can always throw the control head on my 18350 800mAh battery to get me through, The VTR, in it's first full run, did not last nearly as long as the eVic on the same 2600mAh battery. I got pretty good solid usage out of it, but it was dead long before my eVic would have been, by about 3 hours. I had to break out a second battery to keep me going until I was ready to call it a night. So far, there is no 18350 adapter for the VTR, but even if there were, I suspect I would only get a couple hours out of my 800mAh batteries. To really make this a problem however is the crappy Innokin design for battery life, The fire button glows Green, Amber, Red, and provides no really useful information on how much charge remains.

Now we move onto size. The eVic on the stock aluminum tube does not fit very well in the pockets of most of my clothes. It is a pretty long device, especially with a tank on it. I have lost a couple of drip tips (thankfully cheap ones) that fell off the top of the eVic while it was sticking out of my pocket. The VTR on the other hand fits pretty nicely in my pocket, even if the drip tip falls off, it will be somewhere in the bottom of my pocket, plus I can get an awesome looking leather holster for it. As soon as I have my concealed carry kit I will be picking up one of those holsters!

Finally I'm going to cover performance. The eVic with my Protank 2 or iSmoka BCC Mega, hits well and produces a nice throat hit. Further, it generates a lot of "smoke" regardless of which tank is on it. It has been enough to keep me going in my efforts to quit smoking, and better than the cig-a-likes I started with. The VTR, with the SAME tanks, and set at an identical setting to the eVic, really hits hard and and has a strong throat hit. Surprisingly it seems to produce 1.5 - 2 times the vapor of the eVic. I'm not sure why it works this way, but I do think this may be part of the reason battery life is so poor.

So to close this out, the race is currently too close to call. I can't declare a victor yet because as good as the VTR is, the eVic is just as good in many areas. If it were a simple matter (for me) of performance, pocket-ability and durability, then the VTR would win hands down. However, if it were a matter of features, knowing exactly how long my battery will last, and producing enough vapor to keep me off analogs, then the eVic would win. If Innokin adds a true battery display, fixes battery life performance, and reduces the weight a bit in the next VTR release, then it will replace my eVic and current VTR.

I hope you have found this useful!
I don't know. I think the ability to fend off a mugger should pull it ahead in the race should you decide to vape in some innercity ghetto or Somalia or something...LOL
 
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