eVic VTC Mini missing battery vents

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spalife

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I am little curious as to why evic vtc mini does not have battery vent
feature on the bottom or on top or on the sides.

I currently do not have a evic vtc mini... expecting in vape mail.

The Q arose after going through multiple forums and reviews and product
image scrutiny.

Is the feature available?

Battery vent feature is available in all regulated / unregulated mods and
looks surprisingly absent in evic vtc mini.

Is it something to be concerned about or do we have to just rely on onboard
electronics to monitor battery health?

Anyone noticed any issues because of lack of battery vents...
such as battery heat issues ?
 

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Yep it will vent around the door. It also does have 2 little holes in the bottom corners of the door. The door will easily come off it the battery goes critical. Not like a sealed tube mod with screwed on ends.
I am pretty sure it has a temp sensor inside that shuts it down if it gets too hot.
 

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Yep it will vent around the door. It also does have 2 little holes in the bottom corners of the door. The door will easily come off it the battery goes critical. Not like a sealed tube mod with screwed on ends.
I am pretty sure it has a temp sensor inside that shuts it down if it gets too hot.


I am not sure the magnetic battery door will give away when it vents...
unless ofcourse the battery goes hypersonic.

It does have temperature sensors onboard, from what I gather that is for the pcb
and for the coil TC.

If the battery does start venting, there is no way for the user to know something is amiss.
 

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I am not sure the magnetic battery door will give away when it vents...
unless ofcourse the battery goes hypersonic.

It does have temperature sensors onboard, from what I gather that is for the pcb
and for the coil TC.

If the battery does start venting, there is no way for the user to know something is amiss.

When a mod explodes it's because the enclosure didn't open up or vent fast enough. Because of that enough pressure built up inside it to cause it to explode. Most of the time this happens is with eGo type batts or mech mods.

If a mod enclosure has parts that can easily be blown off, like if it has magnetic doors, that eliminates the mod explosion risk. A bad or wrong type of battery might still cause damage, but the mod won't be a 'pipe bomb'.
 
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When a mod explodes it's because the enclosure didn't open up or vent fast enough. Because of that enough pressure built up inside it to cause it to explode. Most of the time this happens is with eGo type batts or mech mods.

If a mod enclosure has parts that can easily be blown off, like if it has magnetic doors, that eliminates the mod explosion risk. A bad or wrong type of battery might still cause damage, but the mod won't be a 'pipe bomb'.


Indeed, enclosed area with no possible venting can be dangerous.

1. But the Q is was it oversight or design decision not to have vent holes,
when every other Regulated Mod has one ?

2. Due to its lack of venting does it make the mod hotter to hold?
 

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Indeed, enclosed area with no possible venting can be dangerous.

1. But the Q is was it oversight or design decision not to have vent holes,
when every other Regulated Mod has one ?

2. Due to its lack of venting does it make the mod hotter to hold?

I don't have one of these mods spalife so I can't say if they heat up in use. Looking at it online I think it has venting around the USB connection, the battery door and possibly the buttons. The battery door looks like it will very likely blow off if the battery vents with flame.

I have a couple of Sigelei mods that have vent holes, but they also have battery doors that are held in place with magnets. I suspect the doors in these will be much better at handling a battery incident than the holes would be :)

OTOH I have a VS DNA40 that has a soldered in battery, has no vent holes other than the air passages around the buttons and USB plug and the battery door is screwed on. With that one I'm counting on the Samsung 25R not venting with flame if it goes ballistic.

I also have a dual battery VF DNA40 clone that is about the same with regard to battery venting protection. I put my batteries of choice in that one.

IMO, do your due diligence and make up your own mind about what you consider safe enough for you. Obviously the safer the better, but in the end it all boils down to what you're comfortable with :thumb:
 
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I don't have one of these mods spalife so I can't say if they heat up in use. Looking at it online I think it has venting around the USB connection, the battery door and possibly the buttons. The battery door looks like it will very likely blow off if the battery vents with flame.

I have a couple of Sigelei mods that have vent holes, but they also have battery doors that are held in place with magnets. I suspect the doors in these will be much better at handling a battery incident than the holes would be :)

OTOH I have a VS DNA40 that has a soldered in battery, has no vent holes other than the air passages around the buttons and USB plug and the battery door is screwed on. With that one I'm counting on the Samsung 25R not venting with flame if it goes ballistic.

I also have a dual battery VF DNA40 clone that is about the same with regard to battery venting protection. I put my batteries of choice in that one.

IMO, do your due diligence and make up your own mind about what you consider safe enough for you. Obviously the safer the better, but in the end it all boils down to what you're comfortable with :thumb:



I have the same set of batteries i.e.,Samsung 25R for builds below 1 ohm and
also much safer Panasonic NCR's for builds above 1 ohm.

The lack of venting takes away the visual and olfactory warning to the operator of the mod.

The only concern is when you are holding it in your hands or carrying it in a mod case or such
the magnetic doors will be blocked.

At least with vent holes....we can rely on someone to yell

YOUR PANTS ARE ON FIRE !!!.....:evil: ;)
 
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found 'em
channels and holes Phew!!
mmni.jpg
 
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No pressure is going to build up behind a door held on with magnets. I stick with higher ohms and lower watts to get longer battery endurance. Another good reason is less battery stress.

That is a good and safer choice.

What do you feel about the lack of visible venting holes on evic mini vtc ?
 

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found 'em
channels and holes Phew!!View attachment 511436


:thumbs:

They are minuscule isn't it ?

With other mods they are clearly visible,
on the bottom,
or side or
on top (where the battery usually vents).

It's like trying to find a needle in a haystack, when it comes to evic vtc mini's
battery vent holes :)
 

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I am almost certain the battery door will pop way before there's enough pressure to create an explosion. If a vent that causes the pipe bomb effect is strong enough to stick the mod into the ceiling, popping 2 magnets is bound to be a piece of cake. I believe any mod with a magnetic door is safer in the case of an incident than a mod with a couple vent holes and no magnetic door.
As to blocking the door in your pocket, unless you're wearing ball suffocating pants and somehow pushing the mod into them the door will have room to crack open enough to have more room to vent than with a few holes. But i don't really see a battery venting on its own without being fired.
In your hand, there is no way you won't feel it happening.
 

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I am almost certain the battery door will pop way before there's enough pressure to create an explosion. If a vent that causes the pipe bomb effect is strong enough to stick the mod into the ceiling, popping 2 magnets is bound to be a piece of cake. I believe any mod with a magnetic door is safer in the case of an incident than a mod with a couple vent holes and no magnetic door.
As to blocking the door in your pocket, unless you're wearing ball suffocating pants and somehow pushing the mod into them the door will have room to crack open enough to have more room to vent than with a few holes. But i don't really see a battery venting on its own without being fired.
In your hand, there is no way you won't feel it happening.



So true....pressure from gas in a compressed location....
something has to give.


:censored: suffocating pants !!
Let's not be gender centric ....
evic i am sure is owned by other genders too :)

There were some discussions of board failures (not evic) and
other mod's auto firing (again not evic so far)
without operator firing the mod.

Mod's with vent holes have an advantage too.

You would have a line of sight... visual and also olfactory update
if the mod is auto firing or is going thermal.

Vent holes also serve a purpose...cooling.

The reason we have them in almost every electronic gadget we own.
 

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Vent holes certainly made sealed tube mods a bit more safe, but box mods with usb ports and magnetic doors/covers are not really sealed in the first place. If it remains a concern for you, I believe the VTC mini (which I am awaiting as well) has an aluminum battery cover, so drilling a hole or two would be pretty easy.
 

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So true....pressure from gas in a compressed location....
something has to give.


:censored: suffocating pants !!
Let's not be gender centric ....
evic i am sure is owned by other genders too :)

There were some discussions of board failures (not evic) and
other mod's auto firing (again not evic so far)
without operator firing the mod.

Mod's with vent holes have an advantage too.

You would have a line of sight... visual and also olfactory update
if the mod is auto firing or is going thermal.

Vent holes also serve a purpose...cooling.

The reason we have them in almost every electronic gadget we own.

Let's not get all PC over a picture painting adjective :D
My point was basically i wouldn't be worried over vent holes on a mod with a battery door.
 

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Vent holes certainly made sealed tube mods a bit more safe, but box mods with usb ports and magnetic doors/covers are not really sealed in the first place. If it remains a concern for you, I believe the VTC mini (which I am awaiting as well) has an aluminum battery cover, so drilling a hole or two would be pretty easy.


Not bad idea, small minuscule staggered vents on top and few on the side,
that goes for a toss if i get tempted to buy a wrap/skin/holder/holster for the mod.

More than a concern, was curious about the design decision and
whether vent holes are a design of the past and can we completely rely
on the on board electronics to monitor internal pcb, enclosure, battery and coil temperatures
for safety and depend on them to alert the operator.
 
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