Evolv Kick and Kick II Question

[100%VG]

Does anyone know if the Kick and/or Kick II does a better job of Voltage/Power Regulation than the mod PVs do?

I'm having issues with a Vamo V3 and its Voltage Regulation. As the Battery Drains, I have to keep adjusting my VV or VW setting Up. I've seen this in 2.5 Amp mods, but not this bad. My Vamo V3 is also a Battery Hogg.

In the eVic I had, I could get a day and a half from the 2600 mAh Li-Ion Battery. In a VTube, I got at least a a whole day from Panasonic 2250 IMR's. It's a little less in a Kamry K200 using the same IMR's, but with the Vamo V3, I'm going through four 18650's per day. I have to adjust the VV or VW Up starting very quickly, and I cannot let a Battery drain below 3.8V in the Vamo before I lose Flavor with my Cinnamon Red Hots. I can taste the change at 3.9V. I still get lots of Vapor, but no Flavor, and adjusting Upward for it below 3.8V doesn't make any difference, so I put in a Fresh Battery. Then I have to crank the settings back down.

These are fairly new 18650's. So following PBusardo's Vamo Review, I bought 18350's for the Vamo V3 to run them Stacked. They work better, and I can discharge them down to 6.4V as expected, but I still have to constantly increase the VV or VW. I bought four AW 700 mAh 18350's. I'm using a pila IBC to charge all of them. These Batteries and the Charger were supposed to be the best of each type.

After doing as much in the process of elimination as I could do for myself, I sent the Vamo back to the Vendor to be tested. I was told "it is working as intended and the regulation issues are common or normal of this model and several others that we carry." Really? No one mentions this in their Reviews. And that Tech Support lady told me that her 18650's in her Vamo can be discharged down to about 3.2V. Something isn't right here.

I was asked if I wanted to keep it or get a Store Credit. I wrote back telling them that I've seen Video Reviews saying that the SMOKTech ZMax V2 has much better Regulation. They said "The ZMAX does offer better regulation and a stronger vape throughout. However, it does drop when the battery begins to drain." ...when the battery begins to drain. So doesn't that mean it doesn't Regulate well either?

This just doesn't seem right. I understand how Voltage Regulation is supposed to work. Apparently, the Mod PV's don't have it right yet, so I'm considering a Kick II for my UDT-V8. I'm looking for both Good (if not Great) Battery Life and Proper Voltage Regulation in the Kicks. If they don't have it either, then, considering as much trouble as it is to adjust the Kick's VW, I might as well take my Vamo back.

Can anyone help me here? Please! I'm feeling rather desperate. Does anything Regulate Properly and Work as Advertised?

If you're tempted to say "A ProVari does!," I can't afford one. I could get a Kick II in a fairly even exchange from that Vendor. If you're impressed by the ZMax, I could exchange for $33 more. But I've also seen in Video Reviews that the Evolv Kicks have what appears to be a fairly straight DC Output when looking at O-Scope tests, instead of the Choppy PWM Pulses to the Coil. I think that would be rather nice. More like a Battery's Output, without the Rattle Snake sound.

In case the Kicks don't do any better (or if you'd like to offer input), then while I have you, I would be interested to know of any Mods that go for $100 or less that actually function as one would justifiably expect. Again, I'm looking for both Good Battery Life and Proper Voltage Regulation. I don't believe we should have to constantly fiddle with the settings. I really like the 2-button Menu System of Vamo V3, and its OLED Screen (even though it's a little dim), but I could do OK with a ZMax-type Menu and Screen setup. I'd also like to stay with a 5 Amp Device, or at least a 4 Amp Device.

Thanks in advance.

 

[tmcase]

Hey VG. I can only speak for the Vmax & Zmax since you can't afford a Provari. As you know the V & Zmax use 2 18350 batts which gives you 8.2v battery output. I don't get flavor loss on them until they reach around 7.6v and if I have a new carto on I've even vape them down to 7.3v without noticing flavor loss. I take a mod to bed with me so I check the batts before I go to bed and many times they were between 7.3 - 7.6v and I hadn't noticed any difference.

The kick is excellent for regulating voltage/wattage and I would say that the V & Zmax work as well. I have 3 Vmax's in my daily rotation so they get a lot of use.

 

[Starlyte2]

With the Vamo 3, I do suppose you've regulated the PWM bit. Like when you stay pressed on the left or right little button , the right for example, if you stay pressed, first you get the resistance of the atty or whatever, but if you keep on pressing, for 10 secs or so, it says "NO1" or "NO2". So that the battery gives the same power you need it on "NO2". I had this problem with my first Vamo, but though I've not yet decided if my next PV will be a Vamo3, a iSVD, or a Xmax, I presume, in saying this, that the V.3 works on the same principal.
If it's not that it's a faulty circuit, the electronic PWM is naz, so if you can change it, do so. It can happen that the PCB has a bad solder or a part that's not good. If you can't change the Vamo, if changing the setting doesn't work, you can buy a PCB to replace yours.
If you want a PCB answer in this or PM me, and I'll dig out the address (I hope ). Good luck.

PS I thought about a Kick, but I vape at 4 or 4.5 watts, and the lowest Kick setting is 5 watts, too high for me, unless I re wick, re mesh, and re buy all my resistances, on too many devices. So for me a Kick is out of the question. But if you vape at higher watts than I do, then also take a look at the Smok Tek kick clone, for half the price of a Kick. So far I've seen no bad come backs on them, and you can even find them for 15 dollars (Fasttech and others). In fact there may be more than one clone, so try googling 'kick clone + ecigs' and see what commes up. But Fasttech are free postage, an advantage.

 

[bulldog63h]

I have an SVD. The regulation works exactly as it should for me. I get the same hit from 4.1 to 3.4 battery volts. Can't really say anything about the kick seeing as how I don't own one but I've heard nothing bad about it. The only "issue" I've heard about with them is it can be a bit of a pain changing settings. I think you'll be happy with either.

 

[Starlyte2]

I've just read that the Smok Tek kick clone, can't remember the damned name of it, but any how, it goes from 3watts not 5 as the original Kick. OK it's a clone, but I use 4 watts, so this is an advantage, as far as I'm concerned. Sorry Evolv, but 5 watts is too high first thing in the morning, at least it is for me

 

[Starlyte2]

Just re-read 100%VG's post.

My Vamo dicharges the battery 18650 to 3.2V, but your problem must be that it's NOT on the RMS no2 setting. Have you tried pressing on one of the little buttons till you get "no2" or "no1" on the sreen? It should be on "no2". The V.3 only has RMS as a setting, so that won't be a problem with the new ones.
From what I've picked up, the Vamo has the same cicuit as the Vmax, Zmax etc. So it's, theoretically, just a question of body preference. (don't laugh, can't think of another expression ) . That is if I'm right about the PCB.

PS Last time I looked Fasttek were also out of stock for kick clones.