Explain it for the dumb noob over here.

[Maurice Pudlo]

So aim for around that then? Gotcha. Thank you.

At the very lowest. You may not need to go this low to get what your looking for.

Lots of vapor really has more to do with wicking and airflow. Those two aspects can make a giant difference in and of themselves.

Start out around 0.5 ohms, once you get wicking and airflow down pat if you feel the temperature needs to be upped work incrementally down to the 0.38 ohm range.

If you feel even lower is the way to go, then that's on you. I doubt you'll feel the need if you work out wicking and airflow though.

Maurice

 

[Maurice Pudlo]

For example you can build a 0.5 ohm dual coil that's plenty hot, two 28g kanthal a1 coils built on 2mm mandrels with 9/10 wraps and legs totaling 5mm will vary in temperature depending on how much air and e-liquid flow they get.

Reduced airflow will increase vape temperature as will lowering ohms.

You want a happy medium.

You can also quad coil but the volume of wire needed is a bit silly and getting a reasonable ohm build to fit in a deck is (a challenge).

Maurice

 

[Baditude]

I agree with the above post. I only build down to 0.6 ohms myself and make plenty of thick dense vapor. I have drilled out my air holes in my atty's caps for more airflow, and through experimentation I've found how much cotton/rayon wick to use in my coils.

 

[carrielsal]

Unfortunately, we are seeing more and more vape shops making unsafe builds for complete novices to mechanical mods and RBA users and not providing any education. Not all of them do that. The shop that I go to has a strict policy of not making a build less than 1 ohm for any customer and attempts to give some education, but adequate research falls upon the users themselves. That is in everyone's best interest as safety should always be the first priority.

I wonder how many B&M's are selling mechs to new vapors? We had a store open in our little town last year. I went in just to take a look. I left my mod in the car and only told the person behind the counter that I was interested in an e-cigarette. He immediately started showing me high end mechs! really? As I looked around I realized their prices were higher than MSRP.
I typically shop at small businesses in my town before I shop online or big box stores and will pay a little more, but this is one B&M that I advise new vapors in our town to stay away from. Fortunately, there is a really good B&M only 10 miles away.

 

[PeterD]

I like that Steam Engine calculator.

If you have an Android phone there is a free app called Electrodroid, with an Ohm's Law calculator.

 

[Noble Gas]

Ok. 4.2 thanks. Again im new and some things I ask is probably obvious to you but to me its important. I didn't know where to post this so I posted it here. My bad.

Not bad at all. It's awesome that you asked before jumping in, and you should never feel bad about that. ECF exists so that we can help each other with questions exactly like yours. Safety is a concern for all of us. Even advanced users ask questions and learn new things here. Welcome

 

[b7u3angel]

Not bad at all. It's awesome that you asked before jumping in, and you should never feel bad about that. ECF exists so that we can help each other with questions exactly like yours. Safety is a concern for all of us. Even advanced users ask questions and learn new things here. Welcome

Thank you.

 

[carrielsal]

Yea that makes sense and I know it falls on me. Thats why when I put it on my meter and seen the number I thought that it was way to low so I didnt fire it up so I started googling and trying to find some answers. And it always led me here so I figured why not join and ask the questions directly. I know im probably making alot of peaple laugh at my inexperience but I felt like this was important. Turns out it was and I now have a better understanding. Thank you.

Not bad at all. It's awesome that you asked before jumping in, and you should never feel bad about that. ECF exists so that we can help each other with questions exactly like yours. Safety is a concern for all of us. Even advanced users ask questions and learn new things here. Welcome

Agreed. We were all new vapors once with a ton of questions.

 

[b7u3angel]

That makes me feel better. LoL. But yea I didnt want to use it cuz of how low it was. Then I started second guessing and I was like maybe the numbers go the other way in ohms and I was like no that doesn't make sense eithetn LoL

 

[Tom Fuller]

Yea that makes sense and I know it falls on me. Thats why when I put it on my meter and seen the number I thought that it was way to low so I didnt fire it up so I started googling and trying to find some answers. And it always led me here so I figured why not join and ask the questions directly. I know im probably making alot of peaple laugh at my inexperience but I felt like this was important. Turns out it was and I now have a better understanding. Thank you.

You did the right thing in researching. It may be that your meter is reading the load at .15 below what it is. Which would put it at a 18 amp load. The guy may have given you a barely safe build that your meter is reading as unsafe. My experience has been going that low you need a ton of air and wicks that can pull fluids really fast or you end up with burnt hits. I personally run a Kayfun with a 1.2 ohm +\- .15ohm coil and love it. You don't have to go sub ohm. Below 1ohm is really an advanced/pro build and largely not necessary. Be safe and enjoy.


Live Long and Vape!

 

[b7u3angel]

Yea ive been reading and for the hardware ive got (hades ss clone w/tobh v3 clone) I think I would like to be at around .5. I checked my current build at now its reading .21. Not sure why it went up but it did. Im really going to just tinker with different builds. Im just looking for GREAT flavor a decent amount of throat hit. The vape thickness I want I believe can be achieved through air flow and wicking. Either way the current build is WAY to hot. Like two toots and the drip tip is blistering. (Im getting a new tip soon) Anyway, yea all the advice and knowledge ive receivee on this thread has been so insightful. Im also thinking that with a higher ohm ill getva better battery life (most of the day) hopefully. Any input on that?

 

[realsis]

Yes you should get a better battery life with the higher ohm build. Simply put it will be less amp pull from the battery. Hope this helps.

 

[mikek1]

Good idea to stay around .5, I've tried puffing on a .2 build and it was way too hot as you already found out I also tried a .5 and found it way more enjoyable.

I think somebody posted this earlier https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...V2c0dSc01mUkl6RXNnM2o2R1E&usp=drive_web#gid=0
you should bookmark it for future reference. If you ever get a new battery check the list and see what it lists as a safe ohm. Ideally you want a battery that has a high continuous discharge, unfortunately most manufacturers list the pulse discharge instead which is higher.

 

[b7u3angel]

Yes you should get a better battery life with the higher ohm build. Simply put it will be less amp pull from the battery. Hope this helps.

Ok good. Thats what I was led to believe in my researching LoL.

 

[b7u3angel]

Good idea to stay around .5, I've tried puffing on a .2 build and it was way too hot as you already found out I also tried a .5 and found it way more enjoyable.

I think somebody posted this earlier https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...V2c0dSc01mUkl6RXNnM2o2R1E&usp=drive_web#gid=0
you should bookmark it for future reference. If you ever get a new battery check the list and see what it lists as a safe ohm. Ideally you want a battery that has a high continuous discharge, unfortunately most manufacturers list the pulse discharge instead which is higher.

Yea it is way too hot for me at least. The guy who let me try his build(first time trying a dripper (Manhattan copper mod with a tug boat atty at around .55) was perfect in my opinion) was nice. I mean it wasnt hot but no where near cold. Kinda like freash baked cookies that have set for a minute or two. The flavor omg the flavor was outta sight good. Just the right amount of throat hit also. Thats how I found out I loved dripping on a mech mod. Loved it[emoji7].

 

[b7u3angel]

Good idea to stay around .5, I've tried puffing on a .2 build and it was way too hot as you already found out I also tried a .5 and found it way more enjoyable.

I think somebody posted this earlier https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...V2c0dSc01mUkl6RXNnM2o2R1E&usp=drive_web#gid=0
you should bookmark it for future reference. If you ever get a new battery check the list and see what it lists as a safe ohm. Ideally you want a battery that has a high continuous discharge, unfortunately most manufacturers list the pulse discharge instead which is higher.

Also that chart was very helpful. Its got the purple efest 26650 on there thats one I have and the mnke 26650 also. Very helpful. Thanks

 

[mikek1]

Also that chart was very helpful. Its got the purple efest 26650 on there thats one I have and the mnke 26650 also. Very helpful. Thanks

No problem! Don't mind helping out wherever I can. Hopefully if I gave any wrong info someone will correct me as I am still quite new also but have been reading a lot.

I must have missed when you said you have the purple efest. That is a much better battery than the mnke and as you can see in the chart you can safely try .2 coils if you get the urge. For running a sub-ohm build you will get really good battery life with that. That's why I want to get the congestus mod and run 2 26650's!

 

[rusirius]

Yea ive been reading and for the hardware ive got (hades ss clone w/tobh v3 clone) I think I would like to be at around .5. I checked my current build at now its reading .21. Not sure why it went up but it did. Im really going to just tinker with different builds. Im just looking for GREAT flavor a decent amount of throat hit. The vape thickness I want I believe can be achieved through air flow and wicking. Either way the current build is WAY to hot. Like two toots and the drip tip is blistering. (Im getting a new tip soon) Anyway, yea all the advice and knowledge ive receivee on this thread has been so insightful. Im also thinking that with a higher ohm ill getva better battery life (most of the day) hopefully. Any input on that?

A lot of it depends on your meter... If you're building .5 ohm builds then it's not a giant deal, you can get away with a cheap meter since you're well above the tolerances for your battery... On the other hand, when you start building very low resistance coils you've got to have a meter that performs perfectly.... I have a simpson bench meter that I'd trust my life to, on the other hand it's been about 2 years since it was sent in for calibration so I still wouldn't push the limits. I've also got a high end fluke meter that I know is extremely accurate... I wouldn't push the edge with it, but I know I can trust it. On the other hand I saw a guy in our local B&M one day using a little pocket meter that he probably paid $10 for... I'm not even sure I'd trust that to be accurate +/- .5 ohm... I darn sure wouldn't build into the .1x, .2x, or .3x range with something like that. A cheap meter even temperature fluctuations can change the readings... Like I said.. To build ultra low like that you've GOT to have a GOOD high end meter with high quality probes and recent calibration.

 

[b7u3angel]

2 26650's!? Thats intense. LoL

 

[b7u3angel]

A lot of it depends on your meter... If you're building .5 ohm builds then it's not a giant deal, you can get away with a cheap meter since you're well above the tolerances for your battery... On the other hand, when you start building very low resistance coils you've got to have a meter that performs perfectly.... I have a simpson bench meter that I'd trust my life to, on the other hand it's been about 2 years since it was sent in for calibration so I still wouldn't push the limits. I've also got a high end fluke meter that I know is extremely accurate... I wouldn't push the edge with it, but I know I can trust it. On the other hand I saw a guy in our local B&M one day using a little pocket meter that he probably paid $10 for... I'm not even sure I'd trust that to be accurate +/- .5 ohm... I darn sure wouldn't build into the .1x, .2x, or .3x range with something like that. A cheap meter even temperature fluctuations can change the readings... Like I said.. To build ultra low like that you've GOT to have a GOOD high end meter with high quality probes and recent calibration.

That actually makes alot of sense. I only have a eleaf volt/ohm reader. Im thinking I need to invest now.